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Wettest Summer For 100 years.

 
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mark occomore



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 5:37 pm    Post subject: Wettest Summer For 100 years. Reply with quote

This summer has been the wettest summer for over 100 years.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19427139
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Not a good sign, as it's now turned cold.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But how can they say that when summer does not end until September 21st

We could have three weeks of completely dry weather which will cock up their statistics Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently we are going to have some dry spells now. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BBC weather girl just said it was freezing 0degC in places in Scotland last night, possibly a record for August??
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Met Office always count summer as being from 1 June to 31 August.

Ian.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We had a very light frost here on Friday morning.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

iwarburton wrote:
The Met Office always count summer as being from 1 June to 31 August.

Ian.


But technically they are quite simply wrong - but there again one has to make allowances - after all they are civil servants Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ruddlescat wrote:
But technically they are quite simply wrong - but there again one has to make allowances - after all they are civil servants Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I assume I'm being asked for an explanation which is basically the fact that most civil servants simply don't live in the real world

Funnily enough I'm just watching a repeat of an episode of 'Yes Minister' on UK Gold which very much illustrates the point as even Margaret Thatcher admitted Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ruddlescat wrote:
I assume I'm being asked for an explanation which is basically the fact that most civil servants simply don't live in the real world


Maybe you should try working in the civil service before passing judgement.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shaky Fan wrote:
ruddlescat wrote:
I assume I'm being asked for an explanation which is basically the fact that most civil servants simply don't live in the real world


Maybe you should try working in the civil service before passing judgement.


No thank you - I prefer to do a job which actually puts dinners on plates - not one which specialises in making life as awkward as possible for it's 'customers'

There probably may be some good civil servants but not very many in my experience - I reckon their numbers could be cut by around 30% and nobody would even notice the difference - especially in Local Government Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ruddlescat wrote:
There probably may be some good civil servants but not very many in my experience - I reckon their numbers could be cut by around 30% and nobody would even notice the difference - especially in Local Government Smile


If the accounts of some of my friends who work in our local authority are anything to go by, the reduction of staffing levels and the imposition of more work on less people is beyond a joke. One of my friends is leaving because she simply cannot cope with the unbearable (and unreasonable) workload. That alone doesn't really support your assertion above!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's exactly what is happening more work split between fewer people! So you'll get situations like (for example) someone who has a target of registering 10 benefit claims per day this week being told on Monday of next week that they are now expected to do 15 per day - as has happened recently to someone I know! Also pay has been frozen for the last couple of years so with inflation that's effectively a paycut.

ruddles I think my 21 years in various departments makes me more qualified on this subject than you might think you are.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Point taken Shaky - but obviously anyone who has spent many years within the civil service bubble tends to view the situation from that perspective

I do also take the point that as you say employees in places like the Benefits Agency are being far more targeted on performance than was the case during the Blair years when the civil service expanded to a ridiculous extent which contributed a significant amount to the financial deficit which this country is now stuck with

If like me you ran an organisation actually advising people on Welfare Benefit issues I'm sure you would find that a very substantial percentage of those people would have a very different view about the civil servants they deal with as compared to your view - and of course the same can be said about Revenue and Customs,the DVLA,the Legal Services Commission and many other civil service run organisations and Quangos
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought this was a posting about the weather. How did we get here?

Ian.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

iwarburton wrote:
I thought this was a posting about the weather. How did we get here?


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ruddlescat wrote:
iwarburton wrote:
The Met Office always count summer as being from 1 June to 31 August.

Ian.


But technically they are quite simply wrong - but there again one has to make allowances - after all they are civil servants Rolling Eyes


it does seem they can only work in quarters of a year instead of the real dates. Rolling Eyes It must make their maths simpler, and not get them confused with equinoxes etc
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Presumably, once enough rain has fallen to qualify as a 'record' wet Summer, then we do not have to wait for the end of the period (whenever that might be) to declare it as such...
on the basis that it cannot 'un-rain'? Wink
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