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mark occomore



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:32 pm    Post subject: Jet Stream - Causing bad weather. Reply with quote

Apparently it's the jet stream which is causing all this bad weather at present. Brace yourselves.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18722054

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Jet stream got stuck in a rut is often the cause of prolonged periods of similar weather conditions in the UK - ranging from exceptional sun and heat right through to long hard Winters like 1962-3.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It has always been the jetstream that has decided what weather we will have. It is really nothing new. If we were on the warm southern side of said jetstream, we would be having a summer possibly like the hot summers of 1990, 2003 (the one where a reading of 100F was recorded for the first time in Kent) and, of course the one the media remembers best - 1976.
You have to wonder whether the water companies have a steering wheel to drive the jetstream, as since we had that hot spell in March and they were whinging about it and imposing hosepipe bans, the spring & summer has been incredibly miserable & wet!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not just us who suffer from the changing position of the jet stream. A few months ago my friend in Texas had said they had strange weather all to do with the jet stream over the southern USA.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Jet Stream - Causing bad weather. Reply with quote

mark occomore wrote:
Apparently it's the jet stream which is causing all this bad weather at present.


Mark, the jet stream largely determines our weather. Full stop.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes Mark, it's the DIFFERENCE in this year's jetsream that is responsible for the difference in this year's summer weather.

Mark perhaps you could find out what that difference is and post it here, I don't read papers or their webpages so maybe the Telgraph has a good meteorological feature somewhere that explains something more about the 'accelerating jetsream' rather than the BBC just saying it's the accelerating jetstream.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It should tell you here

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/18374637
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this jet stream here for good, affecting our weather? Twisted Evil

There hardly seems a day goes by without some rain falls ...
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is - it and its position at any one time is just one of many factors which influence our weather.
Fascinating subject, and the best, or the worst, thing about it is that it's always unpredictable (for longer than four or five days), even though billions have been spent trying to do so.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Goodness - we haven't had more than a sprinkling of rain for months. We've had to start watering the garden so I suppose a hose-pipe ban is just round the corner Surprised
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We are more affected in the NW by the more southerly jet stream than the SE and we get more rain at the best of times. Sad

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I know East Anglia is one of the driest parts of the country - I just hadn't realised that other parts were getting a lot of rain.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We've not had rain of any substance here for 5 weeks now- which is jolly handy, cos our house has no roof at the moment- well it's getting close to having one again:- it should be on and waterproof by the end of Saturday- ready for the heavy rain forcast for Sunday.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

R2Icon wrote:
We've not had rain of any substance here for 5 weeks now- which is jolly handy, cos our house has no roof at the moment- well it's getting close to having one again:- it should be on and waterproof by the end of Saturday- ready for the heavy rain forcast for Sunday.
Hope it is all done by Sunday. Having seen the forecast charts, there is a worrying similarity with this historic chart: Southeast_England_Floods_-_15-September_1968-1.pdf
Here's hoping the weather doesn't turn out to be that bad in the end!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We haven't had any significant rainfall for many weeks now in Norfolk.. well, not on the east coast anyway. We've had loads of new concrete laid outside and erected a couple of new roofs with no problems I'm glad to say.
However, I had a roofer look at three long term leaks on our place here and he's sure he's fixed them all so I'm looking forward to a shower or three to find out! Looks like Sunday is telling time at the moment Confused
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lord Evan Elpuss wrote:
Having seen the forecast charts, there is a worrying similarity with this historic chart: Southeast_England_Floods_-_15-September_1968-1.pdf


The link's a no-no your Lordship. There's nothing to tell us on whose server it can be found! Smile

I'll take your word for it though.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As Helen says the weather around here has been truly awful this year

I just cannot remember any year with so much rain Mad
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It has been awful here this year too. We have had rain more days than not, the water table is so high that the ground squelches under foot. Four weeks ago today was the worst when an absolute deluge of rain fell for an hour an a half which resulted in our entire house being surrounded by water and we are nowhere near a river. It was so deep in our garden that I could barely stand and I am no light weight. We got 10 inches of filthy water in the garage, many treasures in boxes forgotten and now destroyed. Filthy water a foot deep in the conservatory, dehumidifier and two fans still trying to dry it out, floor cracked and likely to need digging up and re-doing...........the house was less than an inch from disaster, we were extremely lucky.

People who have lived in this area for decades couldn't believe what happened as it has never flooded round here before.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Angela W wrote:
We got 10 inches of filthy water in the garage, many treasures in boxes forgotten and now destroyed. Filthy water a foot deep in the conservatory, dehumidifier and two fans still trying to dry it out, floor cracked and likely to need digging up and re-doing...........the house was less than an inch from disaster, we were extremely lucky.


I learnt from a relative who had suffered horrible flood damage many years ago never to store treasured items at floor level anywhere - whether in the house or in a garage or whatever. Always keep them a good couple of feet above.

I have an archive of master videotape recordings dating back to the 1970s, and I rent secure and fire-retardant storage space for these. You just never know.

Mind you, we actually live on a slope - with the Grand Union Canal about 3 metres below our floor level outside!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ColinB wrote:
Lord Evan Elpuss wrote:
Having seen the forecast charts, there is a worrying similarity with this historic chart: Southeast_England_Floods_-_15-September_1968-1.pdf


The link's a no-no your Lordship. There's nothing to tell us on whose server it can be found! Smile

I'll take your word for it though.

Try it this way. It's a menu, scroll down to 'South-East England Floods': http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/learning/library/publications/historical-facts
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