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mark occomore · Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 9955 Location: UK

UKIP members have had their foster children removed as they belong to the party. Unbelievable

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20474120

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So if the Foster family withdraw membership of UKIP, would they be allowed to keep the kids?

FleetingEileenM · Joined: 30 Mar 2010 Posts: 5767 Location: Hampshire

It does seem to be a very odd decision and, I would think, upsetting for the children to be uprooted yet again and re-settled elsewhere. They were reportedly happy with the couple.

The enquiry will be interesting. I wonder if this case will have any effect on Thursday's by-election? I've never voted for UKIP but I hope they give the Labour lot a big shock!

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essexlady · Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 348 Location: Essex

I don't know many details of this case but wasn't the reason given for removing them that the children concerned were of mixed race and the council, rightly or wrongly, thought that the foster parents political views could impact on their treatment of the children?

John W · Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 3367 Location: Warwickshire, UK

I thought the kids were Polish, and it wasn't a permanent fostering, just a temporary/emergency; just an appalling situation that deserved a news story so that Rotherham have to explain.
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ruddlescat · Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 18010 Location: Near Chester

The children were from Europe as far as I can gather and the foster parents were actually encouraging them to speak in their native language which certainly does not suggest that their political views in any way impaired their ability to provide a good home environment

Once the authorities start removing children simply because of political views they may dislike we are going down a very dangerous road and quite frankly I don't think anyone should be prevented from adopting or fostering whatever political party they may support or belong to provided they otherwise meet the right criteria

Really though I can't honestly say that I'm surprised at this ludicrous decision
because as I have said many times on this forum most social workers simply do not live in the real world and remove children when there is absolutely no reason to do so yet fail to act in cases where there have been many warning signs of a serious problem

Also there is far too much emphasis placed on cultural aspects when considering fostering or adoption issues and the number one priority should be to get as many children as possible into decent homes irrespective of racial or cultural differences - this whole obsession with cultural issues only serves to perpetuate a divided society when everyone living in Britain should be aspiring to traditional British values and not to those of some country on the other side of the world Rolling Eyes

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essexlady · Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 348 Location: Essex

The British values I'm proudest of are tolerance and generosity of spirit - and I hope these are more than just British values.

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mark occomore · Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 9955 Location: UK

Back in 2006 David Cameron had to retract his comments - by calling all UKIP members a bunch of racists, fruitcakes and loonies whilst doing a phone in on LBC.

Toggy · Joined: 18 Aug 2008 Posts: 1239

I've just been reminded of the couple who were told they could not foster because they were vegans and another couple who could not foster because the gentleman smoked 2 cigars a week.

In the end it's always the kids that suffer. Sad

essexlady · Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 348 Location: Essex

It certainly seems some odd decisions are made - perhaps not all the facts in these particular cases are made public.

mark occomore · Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 9955 Location: UK

There's a by election happening in Rotherham.

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Schizoidman · Joined: 20 Sep 2010 Posts: 1140 Location: Rural West Sussex

Social workers are never praised when they get the decision right but of course are always criticised when they get it wrong.

And they certainly got this one wrong. The couple seem to be very respectable and they have fostered before. To take the children away from them smacks of ethnic cleansing in reverse, political correctness at its worse, to be expected in somewhere like China.

I hope Labour get a good kicking at the by-election, though with their current big majority it won't happen.

Yes, the expense fiddling McShane is an odious scumbag, who got away with the usual slap on the wrist.

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littlepieces · Joined: 10 Jan 2010 Posts: 1098 Location: Lowestoft

Without fail everytime i see the name Marlene i say it in a Boycie voice Very Happy

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FleetingEileenM · Joined: 30 Mar 2010 Posts: 5767 Location: Hampshire

Toggy · Joined: 18 Aug 2008 Posts: 1239

What a disaster for the Lib Dems Shocked

UKIP did well and I'm pleased about that.
Not happy about the BNP, I wish Respect had finished above them.