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Schizoidman
Joined: 20 Sep 2010 Posts: 1140 Location: Rural West Sussex
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Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 9:06 pm Post subject: Abraham Martin And John |
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Yesterday JV played the wonderful Abraham Martin And John by Marvin Gaye. He then admitted that he didn't know until this week that the song was about Messrs Lincoln, King and Kennedy (and Bobby).
I found this staggering. OK, he was only about four when the song was a hit, but surely he, as a broadcaster and journalist, should have known this.
Or is it me just being churlish and overcritical? |
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ruddlescat
Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 18010 Location: Near Chester
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Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with you Schiz _________________ Are you ready for a Ruddles? |
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Toggy
Joined: 18 Aug 2008 Posts: 1239
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Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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I'm a couple of years younger than him and though I never knew for sure (until now) I assumed that was who it was about.
Perhaps Jezza is a bit simple |
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SantaFefan
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 11258 Location: top of the cliffs in Norfolk
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Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:17 am Post subject: |
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I'm not surprised by this at all, one can hear many examples of radio and TV people who don't seem to have a clue about music, history or the real world in practical terms! Jeremy once said he's never heard "Good Day Sunshine" by the Beatles
On TV recently, a report on older, potentially dangerous tyres had the female presenter saying "If an older tyre with say 100,000 miles on it... "
Would anybody really think a tyre would do anything like 100k miles?
I've asked before on here if anybody remembered it, but there was a single released back in the late 60s or early 70s of "Abraham Martin And John" with actual news audio clips of the "I had a dream" speech, JFK speaking and his brother remembering his brother shortly after his death.
I always had a big lump in my throat as his speech was very emotional.
I can't remember who recorded it but it was played on Radio 1.. _________________ Johnnie Walker read out my message on Pirate Radio! 13/8/07
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Blondehedgehog
Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 286 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 10:01 am Post subject: |
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He said he did not relate the song to Martin Luther or the Kennedy's. It shows that all he does is scripted and researched for him. He can be caught out on many facts that make him look a dork. _________________ I like hedgehog crisps |
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Helen May
Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19382 Location: Cheshire
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Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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I was surprised as well that he said he hadn't known the meaning of the song.
If I recall it wasn't played that much when it was originally released, or maybe I didn't listen to the right station.
H _________________ 88 - 91 FM this is Radio 2 from the BBC!
I said it live on air in the studio with Jeremy Vine on 10/3/2005 |
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nod
Joined: 24 Dec 2006 Posts: 3558
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Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 5:35 am Post subject: Re: Abraham Martin And John |
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Schizoidman wrote: | Yesterday JV played the wonderful Abraham Martin And John by Marvin Gaye. He then admitted that he didn't know until this week that the song was about Messrs Lincoln, King and Kennedy (and Bobby).
I found this staggering. OK, he was only about four when the song was a hit, but surely he, as a broadcaster and journalist, should have known this.
Or is it me just being churlish and overcritical? |
I get the impression not a lot of research is done for some things on the show |
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SantaFefan
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 11258 Location: top of the cliffs in Norfolk
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Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:40 am Post subject: |
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Well I managed to find my mystery track from all those years ago and it turns out to be " Tom Clay..What The World Needs Now (Abraham,Martin and John) "
I still find it emotional and if anybody can listen to Bobby talking about his late brother without a tear in their eye they're stronger person than me..
You might remember it too?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=1uqNLnEzDLA _________________ Johnnie Walker read out my message on Pirate Radio! 13/8/07
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ruddlescat
Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 18010 Location: Near Chester
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Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:55 am Post subject: Re: Abraham Martin And John |
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nod wrote: | Schizoidman wrote: | Yesterday JV played the wonderful Abraham Martin And John by Marvin Gaye. He then admitted that he didn't know until this week that the song was about Messrs Lincoln, King and Kennedy (and Bobby).
I found this staggering. OK, he was only about four when the song was a hit, but surely he, as a broadcaster and journalist, should have known this.
Or is it me just being churlish and overcritical? |
I get the impression not a lot of research is done for some things on the show |
Surely they shouldn't need to do research for something so obvious and well known
If I were JV I'd be so embarassed about being ignorant over such a basic point I would have kept my mouth shut on the subject _________________ Are you ready for a Ruddles? |
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