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John W



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 1:29 pm    Post subject: BT Sport Reply with quote

Silly money

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24879138

I currently watch BT Sports free on our Skybox ch 426 (e.g. last night) as I'm on BT Broadband.
This announcement is saying some matches will be free, so does that mean a) free on Freeview and b) I will still get to watch all the other games free on my current channel ?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BT must have some money and potential backing from their banks to predict this will work. It's a price that the BBC couldn't afford, but neither could Sky Or ITV, so the advertisers didn't believe in them, or just won't a new fresh competitor? When you sign upto BT TV you get it free for a year. After that you could be charged. I would expect BT will offer some great deals. They will need to charge for on demand unless you pay the top price for your package.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BT Sport is punting on this for an initial two year period and using it as a loss leader (and then some!!) to shift the emphasis of TV viewing from over-air/satellite to IP-based. When launching a new platform (IP TV) you're stuck between a rock and a hard place for while because you need to offer content to get people to sign up but you need the infrastructure in place to be able to deliver the content. It's also a very good carrot-on-stick to encourage new sign-ups to BT Infinity, where available. It certainly worked with my dad a couple of months ago!

Like John, I get BT Sport free as part of my BT Broadband account, and I view it via the iPhone and iPad apps which I then Airplay to our TV in full HD. It's obviously a direct challenge to BSkyB, who have dominated things for too long, which I think is a good thing on one hand. The problem is that it excludes access to our key sporting events to people who aren't fortunate enough such access and rely on terrestrial TV.

Still, we're in the era of "sporting brands" rather than just plain old sport now; just look at how Bernie Ecclestone and his mob has ruined Formula One!
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only reason i have sky is for the cricket and the football does this mean sky will have to reduce their prices?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

littlepieces wrote:
The only reason i have sky is for the cricket and the football does this mean sky will have to reduce their prices?


Reduce them? Ha Ha. They'll just say they don't have to increase them so much next time Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you need to get your Sky subscription reduced it usually works if you tell them that you've lost your job and can no longer afford it - or that you've recently gone through a divorce - they have a special section called the retentions department which is brought in whenever they think they might lose customers

So far I think I've lost around six jobs and been through at least three divorces Laughing

Actually I don't do it for the money - I just enjoy ripping off Mr Murdoch just likes he does with everyone else Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ruddles, yes it true that you can persuade Sky to not increase your bills. We've always had 3 boxes but with the kids now married and moved on we were paying more than what we needed and maybe we should do something.

I've not done the jobless/hardup story but we called them a couple of years to replace a faulty box in the spare room - they replaced it free if we took a 1 yr HD new box in the main room, so in fact they moved the main box to the spare room and gave us the HD box for our lounge. After a year we said we didn't see any good in the HD, and we weren't using the spare room, so we wanted rid of both. They said we could keep the HD, and the spare box would be disconnected (but remain as a Freeview).

So we are now paying 10.25 a month less, and we still have the HD. And that 'freeview' box is great as it retained the Sky screens/channel numbers for the free channels that we watch a lot.
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Colin



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When O2 sold its broadband business to BSkyB recently, it added nearly 600,000 users to BSkyB's customer base. And put them in second position in the broadband rankings. This deal by BT is designed to hold their number one position and steal Sky's business at the same time.

Of course, the real battleground is not over-air television
(by terrestrial or satellite distribution) but via fibre internet. (Eg BT Infinity) or 4G mobile. That's where the money is.

The irony is that BT has the contract to distribute Sky's broadband services at present!

I must say that the quality of BT Sport via Infinity provides HD pictures that are as good as those from our Freesat HD+ decoder. And we don't get interence from trees blocking the signal either!
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Btw Ruddles, yes well done for "ripping off" Murdoch and his Mafia. We were with O2 Broadband until recently. I was actuslly very happy with O2 in every respect, especially their Glasgow-based tech support. However, a few weeks before BT Openreach were about to upgrade us to Fibre and Infinity we started to get calls from O2 asking if we would like to sign a new 2-year contract for half the price we were currently paying for our 3.5 Mbps broadband. I did smell a rat - and was right!

I got an embargoed press release (only 24 hours) from Sky's PR to say that the company had acquired O2's broadband internet business! I knew it! And then BT sent a snail-mailshot to say that Fibre services would be available soon and did want we to sign up for an introductory deal. Amazing eh?

Anyhow, I did sign up with BT (yes, I know their Indian support is awful) and when we were ready I phoned O2 for the MAC code, the very nice Glaswegian guy asked why I was switching. I replied that I didn't really want to but I absolutely refuse to give the Murdoch Mafia a penny of my money!

He didn't try and dissuade me and arranged for code to sent to me via SMS. I feel sorry for them actually because many of them have since been made redundant I believe. But Murdoch doesn't get my money - no way!
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