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Foot And Mouth Outbreak In Surrey

 
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:10 pm    Post subject: Foot And Mouth Outbreak In Surrey Reply with quote

Cattle at a farm in Surrey have been found to be infected with foot-and-mouth disease.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/6930684.stm

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brown is coming home from his holiday early to claim more Brownie points. The third major thing since he took over as PM. What will be next?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In 2001 foot and mouth spread with horrifying speed. I hope and pray that this doesn't happen this time.

Ian.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of my low-level photographer colleagues in the Borders (a ghillie) has already been issued with disinfectant baths for the roads and tracks on the estate he works on. Another farmer in one of the valleys we frequent in the Borders has asked that we keep away until the all-clear is given, since they've got a lot of stock on the hills at the moment, and they're all understandably very concerned.

Needless to say we're doing what they say - I had planned to pop across to the Lakes on Monday but I'm not bothering now.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's really awful. The farm adjoining my back garden is let for cattle grazing, after the hay harvest. Because of the wet weather, hay making, which should have been end of June hasn't started yet, so the livestock hasn't been let in.
More starvation.
But Heigh Ho, lets feed the urban foxes on best meat cuts.

BTW Good on you Cher for thinking about this, We still have "right to roam" people around, I suffer them coming up in my garden from time to time and asking me why I tell them to go away....now...because you may be contaminated?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, we only walk and climb in the countryside for a hobby - we recognise that those who live and work there do so because the land is their livelihood. Why antagonise the locals for no good reason?

I can always go back to the Lakes another day - when the 2001 crisis hit, I ended up walking along local beaches instead to get exercise, keeping away from farms and uplands.

The Right to Roam Act is a double-edged sword - up in Scotland there's no law of trespass so you can pretty much go where you want within reason. Used with a bit of common sense, it works fine, but you're always going to get those people who 'know their rights' but don't seem to know their responsibilities. That's when the trouble starts.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Current thinking is the outbreak came courtesy of the nearby research labs at Pirbright. Oops - this should have had top-notch bio-security but clearly didn't. The strain is not one usually found in animals but is found in vaccines and in labs.... hopefully the farmer will get adequate compensation for the gaffe, if true.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6931858.stm
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everyone keeps harping on about the foot mouth outbreak in 2001, but it all started in 1967 :

http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/diseases/fmd/2001/1967a.htm

The source of foot and mouth can come from birds who carry the disease through the air. There is so many theories how cattle and sheep can catch it.

The government have to be on top of it as a lot of farms are run or paid into by lots of PM's and Lords over the years. Yes they get compensation but it's there lively hood which is being slaughtered. If this doesn't get contained then France etc will stop the selling british meat.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then earliest foot and mouth outbreak in my lifetime (I think) was in 1959/60.

There was some talk today that the Pirbright laboratory may have been implicated in that, too.

Ian.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mark occomore wrote:
If this doesn't get contained then France etc will stop the selling british meat.


The French market was lost long ago. On holiday in Normandy/Brittany last month, we saw signs in most restaurants, boucheries and supermarkets proclaiming proudly that all beef used/sold was French.

When we asked a friendly proprieter about it he diplomatically said that it wasn't just British, but all imported meat that was considered inferior.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:39 pm    Post subject: Source Found Reply with quote

Investigators say the virus that led to the foot-and-mouth outbreak in Surrey had probably been present in a pipe on the Pirbright laboratory site.

Health and Safety Executive findings, given to the BBC, identified biosecurity lapses at the nearby site.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6979891.stm
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another foot and mouth outbreak in Surrey.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6990913.stm Shocked
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Foot And Mouth Outbreak In Surrey Reply with quote

mark occomore wrote:
Cattle at a farm in Surrey have been found to be infected with foot-and-mouth disease.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/6930684.stm

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