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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Behind Geddon's Wall wrote:
Both were part of Matthew Bannister's "Brave new Radio 1", DB after DLT Publicly voiced fears over the new philosophy, CE because Bannister was a fan.

Both were unmitigated disasters.


I think 'disaster's is pushing it a bit. In Baker's case it was like replacing Your Hundred Best Tunes with Russell Brand. ie on a hiding to nothing with the inherited audience, despite being evolutionarily right and despite the presenters different, though innovative talents.

Got an interesting statistic to bring you tomorrow Lesley!


Here it is...

According to his Radio Academy appearance in Cambridge this week, Baker's podcast attracts 270,000 listeners.
According to Media Guardian this week, 6 Music - Douglas's sister station - attracts 477,000

Ergo, Baker - on his own and merely on a fairly unpublicised podcast - attracts over half the listeners to an ENTIRE national radio station to which, arguably, Baker is well suited. That's aside from his suitability and listenership potential on R2!

You do the math, Lesley.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lady Boil De Spudswell wrote:
Lady Boil De Spudswell wrote:
Behind Geddon's Wall wrote:
Both were part of Matthew Bannister's "Brave new Radio 1", DB after DLT Publicly voiced fears over the new philosophy, CE because Bannister was a fan.

Both were unmitigated disasters.


I think 'disaster's is pushing it a bit. In Baker's case it was like replacing Your Hundred Best Tunes with Russell Brand. ie on a hiding to nothing with the inherited audience, despite being evolutionarily right and despite the presenters different, though innovative talents.

Got an interesting statistic to bring you tomorrow Lesley!


Here it is...

According to his Radio Academy appearance in Cambridge this week, Baker's podcast attracts 270,000 listeners.
According to Media Guardian this week, 6 Music - Douglas's sister station - attracts 477,000

Ergo, Baker - on his own and merely on a fairly unpublicised podcast - attracts over half the listeners to an ENTIRE national radio station to which, arguably, Baker is well suited. That's aside from his suitability and listenership potential on R2!

You do the math, Lesley.


6Music is hardly a good comparison for someone who is championed to appear on the nation's favourite station.
It is available only to those with digital radio, so that excludes all drivers (where I listen to most of my radio), has non-R2 presenters, he may be suited for 6music, but my reservations about radio2 are well documented.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Behind Geddon's Wall wrote:
Lady Boil De Spudswell wrote:
Lady Boil De Spudswell wrote:
Behind Geddon's Wall wrote:
Both were part of Matthew Bannister's "Brave new Radio 1", DB after DLT Publicly voiced fears over the new philosophy, CE because Bannister was a fan.

Both were unmitigated disasters.


I think 'disaster's is pushing it a bit. In Baker's case it was like replacing Your Hundred Best Tunes with Russell Brand. ie on a hiding to nothing with the inherited audience, despite being evolutionarily right and despite the presenters different, though innovative talents.

Got an interesting statistic to bring you tomorrow Lesley!


Here it is...

According to his Radio Academy appearance in Cambridge this week, Baker's podcast attracts 270,000 listeners.
According to Media Guardian this week, 6 Music - Douglas's sister station - attracts 477,000

Ergo, Baker - on his own and merely on a fairly unpublicised podcast - attracts over half the listeners to an ENTIRE national radio station to which, arguably, Baker is well suited. That's aside from his suitability and listenership potential on R2!

You do the math, Lesley.


6Music is hardly a good comparison for someone who is championed to appear on the nation's favourite station.
It is available only to those with digital radio, so that excludes all drivers (where I listen to most of my radio), has non-R2 presenters, he may be suited for 6music, but my reservations about radio2 are well documented.


The point was to highlight his popularity and as a forner NME music journalist and possessor of an encyclopedic musical knowledge and taste, one would be right in thinking that the kind of like-minded souls that frequent the BBC's sixth radio channel may also find space in their listening week for Mr. B's brand of eclectic tunes and whimsy. As precisely half of the station's audience number download the ADBS, it is perhaps a fair assumption that he'd do well on the station, with then a nod to the main chance of R2 at some point in the future after a bedding in period has taken place. They're not wildly different beasts and Baker's ability to beat many of his national rivals in the podcast charts with zero publicity is perhaps a black eye to the naysayers who think he no longer has, if ever he possessed, currency among the wider proletariat.
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Apart from satisfying your lust LBDS I can see no valid reason for bringing Danny Baker to Radio 2. And give you give us any reason why he want to. Can you not just enjoy him where he currently his instead of trying to inflict the oaf on us?! Smile
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The big assumption is that it is 6music or radio2 listeners who are download Mr Baker's efforts, It may be ERCC using it to scare the kids away from Beverley Bus Station.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Apart from satisfying your lust LBDS I can see no valid reason for bringing Danny Baker to Radio 2. And give you give us any reason why he want to. Can you not just enjoy him where he currently his instead of trying to inflict the oaf on us?! Smile


Give you any reason?! Yeah, sure! The alternatives, (and yes Pete Mitchell I'm including you in this), are often dull, incompetent, unoriginal, uncreative or are tv flavour-of-the-minutes with zero high profile radio experience....

Or a combination of all of those.

That a good enough reason for you? Probably not.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lady Boil De Spudswell wrote:
clott south wrote:
Apart from satisfying your lust LBDS I can see no valid reason for bringing Danny Baker to Radio 2. And give you give us any reason why he want to. Can you not just enjoy him where he currently his instead of trying to inflict the oaf on us?! Smile


Give you any reason?! Yeah, sure! The alternatives, (and yes Pete Mitchell I'm including you in this), are often dull, incompetent, unoriginal, uncreative or are tv flavour-of-the-minutes with zero high profile radio experience....

Or a combination of all of those.

That a good enough reason for you? Probably not.



Lady B,
weren;t they the reasons for Mattew Bannister choosing Danny B and Mr Evans in the first place, certainly the TV flavour of the minute reason.
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Behind Geddon's Wall wrote:
Lady Boil De Spudswell wrote:
clott south wrote:
Apart from satisfying your lust LBDS I can see no valid reason for bringing Danny Baker to Radio 2. And give you give us any reason why he want to. Can you not just enjoy him where he currently his instead of trying to inflict the oaf on us?! Smile


Give you any reason?! Yeah, sure! The alternatives, (and yes Pete Mitchell I'm including you in this), are often dull, incompetent, unoriginal, uncreative or are tv flavour-of-the-minutes with zero high profile radio experience....

Or a combination of all of those.

That a good enough reason for you? Probably not.



Lady B,
weren;t they the reasons for Mattew Bannister choosing Danny B and Mr Evans in the first place, certainly the TV flavour of the minute reason.


True, Evans and Baker were perhaps at their TV peak at the time, but then they'd only got there because of several years graft and name-making mainly on the late lamented and much revered BBC GLR radio station. Which, of course one M. Bannister used to run very successfully.

It was the GLR connection, as much as any incidental tv profile, that got Evans and Baker on Radio 1.
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The point was to highlight his popularity and as a forner NME music journalist and possessor of an encyclopedic musical knowledge and taste,


There is already one of those on Radio 2 and 6 Music. A certain Mr Maconie fulfills anything Baker could offer.

A superb writer and as the Freak Zone shows the best musical taste on the wireless.

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True, Evans and Baker were perhaps at their TV peak at the time, but then they'd only got there because of several years graft and name-making mainly on the late lamented and much revered BBC GLR radio station. Which, of course one M. Bannister used to run very successfully.

It was the GLR connection, as much as any incidental tv profile, that got Evans and Baker on Radio 1.

It just goes to show that what works on local radio does not always transfer to the national stage.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The point was to highlight his popularity and as a forner NME music journalist and possessor of an encyclopedic musical knowledge and taste,


There is already one of those on Radio 2 and 6 Music. A certain Mr Maconie fulfills anything Baker could offer.

A superb writer and as the Freak Zone shows the best musical taste on the wireless.

Ian


I think you actually have to listen to one of Baker's shows now to understand just how technically brilliant he is. Through the use of appropriate beds, sound effects, stings etc he is beyond Maconie or anyone else where creating pure theatre of the mind radio is concerned. There will never be another Kenny Everett, but Danny is firmly carrying the torch of taking radio above and beyond just playing records and knowing a lot about them.

I think even Stuart - who has gone on record as a Baker fan incidentally - would admit he couldn't achieve the kind of theatrical radio that is now Baker's stock in trade.
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Much as I like Baker, I think he may come unstuck with the podcast idea - there are rumblings on other forums that there have been quite a few duff ones of late, and if that continues paying £2 a week may not be a viable option.

If he can keep up the standard he may be OK, but if he exhibits the same symptoms he and Evans had in the bad days of TFI Friday (lazy, poorly thought out, back-of-a-beermat ideas, self-indulgence etc.), he might be well advised not to count his chickens.

He should be on Radio 2 where I can hear him for the cost of the licence fee anyway - it might persuade me to tune back to 88-91!
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Lady Boil De Spudswell wrote:
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The point was to highlight his popularity and as a forner NME music journalist and possessor of an encyclopedic musical knowledge and taste,


There is already one of those on Radio 2 and 6 Music. A certain Mr Maconie fulfills anything Baker could offer.

A superb writer and as the Freak Zone shows the best musical taste on the wireless.

Ian


I think you actually have to listen to one of Baker's shows now to understand just how technically brilliant he is. Through the use of appropriate beds, sound effects, stings etc he is beyond Maconie or anyone else where creating pure theatre of the mind radio is concerned. There will never be another Kenny Everett, but Danny is firmly carrying the torch of taking radio above and beyond just playing records and knowing a lot about them.

I think even Stuart - who has gone on record as a Baker fan incidentally - would admit he couldn't achieve the kind of theatrical radio that is now Baker's stock in trade.


Of course Maconie isn't anything like Baker on the Radio, my point was that as a writer and for his musical choices he is easily the equal of Baker.

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Simply put keep this East End Barrow Boy where he is.

A truly terrible DJ/presenter imho.

No way is he worthy of a slot on a national radio station.
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Simply put keep this East End Barrow Boy where he is.

A truly terrible DJ/presenter imho.

No way is he worthy of a slot on a national radio station.


And you last listened to him when? 1992?!!

I think Evans has proved conclusively that presenters can develop and mature and be popular (and win awards!), despite the naysayers.

You may not like Baker, and that's fine, but like Evans, because of his vibrancy and creativity, he has, for sure, a major part to play on the ever evolving R2.
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Lady Boil De Spudswell wrote:
Mark Mayhew wrote:
Simply put keep this East End Barrow Boy where he is.

A truly terrible DJ/presenter imho.

No way is he worthy of a slot on a national radio station.


And you last listened to him when? 1992?!!

I think Evans has proved conclusively that presenters can develop and mature and be popular (and win awards!), despite the naysayers.

You may not like Baker, and that's fine, but like Evans, because of his vibrancy and creativity, he has, for sure, a major part to play on the ever evolving R2.


I think Evans has proved that altogh some presenters develop, some totally fail to, Drivetime to kindergarten is one fell swoop, and it hasn't improved in over a year. I for one do not listen to the radio to be shouted at, and I feel that Baker is of the same ilk.
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I for one do not listen to the radio to be shouted at, and I feel that Baker is of the same ilk.


I would suggest you give Baker a listen - today - and tell me if he shouts. Furthermore I would dearly love just one naysayer to tune in and give me a crtitique of the show, as it is now in 2007, and tell me what they specifically didn't like.... and... God forbid.... perhaps... what they did enjoy?!!?!
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Big smoke local radio doesn't make it as far as the North, and my speakers are currently detached from my PC.
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Big smoke local radio doesn't make it as far as the North, and my speakers are currently detached from my PC.


Indulge me. When your speakers get re-connected...


http://www.thealldaybreakfastshow.com

Or

http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/radio/presenters/danny_baker/index.shtml

I genuinely would welcome appraisals that are less than fifteen years out of date!
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Danny's 'All Day Breakfast Show' gets its second Radio Times review.
Yup! The jolly old podcast, and Wippit! - Page 121 of next weeks' issue. Somebody there must really love him...

"The warmest and funniest radio show ever conceived for a podcast-only audience from the rightly titled 'future of radio', Danny Baker."

(Attention, Radio 2!)
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and the other tries deperately to be funny in things like QI.


That's telly mate. This is radio, where he excels. Few are any good on both.


Sorry m'lady, IMHO he's just as bad on either medium.
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Absolutely spot on.

Danny Baker-a total waste of space.

I remember his dire appearances as the host of 606-what happened here-he was fired for being rubbish.

Keep the East End barrow boy off Radio 2 at all costs-truly terrible-one man who if he were a Mars bar would want to "eat himself".
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Mark Mayhew wrote:
Absolutely spot on.

Danny Baker-a total waste of space.

I remember his dire appearances as the host of 606-what happened here-he was fired for being rubbish.

Keep the East End barrow boy off Radio 2 at all costs-truly terrible-one man who if he were a Mars bar would want to "eat himself".


Hear, hear! What does Radio 2 need with these experienced radio pros who have plied their trade solidly, professionally and creatively on the wireless medium for a good twenty years now? It's just dull isn't it? What we need is the kind of breath of fresh radio air that people like Davina and Kate Thornton can give us. What does it matter that they can write their radio experience on the back of a stamp - twice - in thick, black, bingo marker pens? They'll pick it up in a mere decade or two.

Get back to your washing powder, Mr. Baker!!
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Danny Baker

GLR 1989-90
Radio 5 1990-93
Radio 1 1993-96
GLR 1996-97
Talk Radio 1997-99
Virgin Radio 1999-2000
BBC London 2001-

This man is a radio hobo, unable to settle down until he found his niche in BBC local radio - is this the 'talent' that we want on radio2 - I think not!

There are plenty of talented people who have proved themselves at Radio2 with out resorting to the BBtalent book or the style fof zoo radio emenating from Messrs Wright and Baker.
What radio 'Talent' requires 3 sidekicks to do a radio show?
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Danny Baker

GLR 1989-90
Radio 5 1990-93
Radio 1 1993-96
GLR 1996-97
Talk Radio 1997-99
Virgin Radio 1999-2000
BBC London 2001-

This man is a radio hobo, unable to settle down until he found his niche in BBC local radio - is this the 'talent' that we want on radio2 - I think not!

There are plenty of talented people who have proved themselves at Radio2 with out resorting to the BBtalent book or the style fof zoo radio emenating from Messrs Wright and Baker.
What radio 'Talent' requires 3 sidekicks to do a radio show?


Errr ... Deadly? Boggy? Fran? Lynn Bowls?

But, hey, you're right of course. Plenty of talented people who have proved themselves at Radio2 with out resorting to the BBtalent book or the style fof zoo radio emenating from Messrs Wright and Baker.

Errrr ... Yes! Pete Mitchell for example! Shocked Nobody 'umms' and 'errs' and gives time-checks quite like Pete. Genius talent. More BBC!!
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I will grant that Danny Baker is more talented than Pete Mitchell, but there again, so's Yeast.

As for Deadly, Boggy and Fran, they serve a function on the program, that of news readers, whereas Lynn does the travel.

Steve's 'Posse', like Baker's sidekicks are there to shore up the ego of the main presenter.
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I will grant that Danny Baker is more talented than Pete Mitchell, but there again, so's Yeast.

As for Deadly, Boggy and Fran, they serve a function on the program, that of news readers, whereas Lynn does the travel.

Steve's 'Posse', like Baker's sidekicks are there to shore up the ego of the main presenter.


Hmm, I disagree. I think Boggy, Fran, Lynn et-al doing the travel is merely a devise through which to engage in exactly the same kind of 'banter' Baker and Co transmit. In fact, minute for minute in a two hour show, I suspect you'd hear more of them than Danny's cohorts. For the record, I'm not mad about 'co-hosts/teams' myself but David Kuo with Danny is just a comedy match made in heaven!

PS - Yes, we're as one with yeast. At least yeast rises, which is more of a lift than the one the Pete Mitchell show'll give you!
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Lady potato's not still rabitting on about Baker.

Nothing changes here in three years!
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Lady potato's not still rabitting on about Baker.

Nothing changes here in three years!


Such is the state of the network's recent dalliances!! McCall, Thornton, M. Wright, Mitchell...
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Lady potato's not still rabitting on about Baker.

Nothing changes here in three years!


Such is the state of the network's recent dalliances!! McCall, Thornton, M. Wright, Mitchell...


Maybe he should chance agents to Davina's and Brand's?
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Saturday, August 25, 2007
Radio One More Time: The University Of Turmoil

We fear change

Danny Baker's arrival at Radio One should have been a triumph. And, in many ways, it was. Baker was fresh from the old Radio Five, quitting just a couple of months ahead of the network closing down to make way for Five Live - "when I suggested I might be going to Radio One, they weren't that bothered...". Although he hadn't managed to single-handedly save the station, he did at least pull it together to such a position that it was able to live out its final days in some sort of dignity. The "Morning Edition - and stick with it" baseball caps notwithstanding.

However, Baker was given a tricky beat - the old DLT slot, still warm from the departing dudgeon of the beared one, and probably the slot with the most conservative of all Radio One programmes. Gone was the snooker and the reassuring tales of life on a home counties farm with a Swedish wife, in came callers putting on rollerskates two sizes too small zooming over bubble wrap and a cast that included a Radio Five newsreader, the former editor of the NME and a man who sounded, well, working class.

The sudden shift in style was something of a leap - certainly bigger than Matthew Banister's other changes, such as the gentle fading out of Simon Bates to make room for Simon Mayo. In fact, Baker admitted to Mojo that he didn't even have a radio style as such: he just did what he thought radio was - a lot of talking with records plucked from a pile on the basis of what you want to hear next.

If Danny Baker is a bit of a acquired taste, the strongest thing on the menu was The University of Turmoil. Over the course of the programme, Danny Kelly would select images from that day's newspapers, usually of alarmed or worried looking people or animals, stick them on pieces of paper with the word "Turmoil" written on them - maybe with an inappropriate headline added on for good measure. The last page would deviate from the formula with the appearance of the phrase "WE FEAR CHANGE". Towards the end of the programme, Kelly would pass over the folder and - seeing his handiwork for the first time - Baker would attempt to describe the contents to the audience, hoping to get through the feature before his head hurt too much from laughing.

You had to be there. It was inspired.

Although, admittedly, not everyone who was there agreed.

Baker became the focus for most of those upset by the new sound of the station - quickly losing the Sunday slot, and eventually losing the Saturday one as well. However, by taking most of the heat generated over the new schedules, Baker effectively bought the space for the other changes to bed down and saved Radio One in a way that Chris Moyles could only dream of.

The University Of Turmoil resurfaced - just once - a couple of months ago on Baker's BBC Radio London show, for the first time in over a decade. It still is bloody inspired.


[Celebrating 40 years of Radio One: Radio One More Time]


By simon h b at 9:06 AM

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James said...
This show was fantastic. I loved how the phone-in subjects were absurdly specific - While local commercial radio was asking us to join their latest battle-of-the-sexes debate ("Giggly sidekick Sharon says women are the best drivers, but I know that's rubbish, so tell us what you think!"), Danny Baker was asking us to call him if we knew someone who almost had the same name as a celebrity, but not quite ("My boss is called Les O'Connor", etc). And yet it always worked, and it was a hoot.

My favourite stunts were when he was as testing out cartoon theories. One was a man cycling down a hill into a pond, to see if his hat followed him above water. Another was a caller filling a trumpet with soap to see if notes came out in bubbles when played.

I remember seeing DLT on one of those documentaries about the Radio 1 changes a few years ago. It was a long time after his replacement (Baker had long gone), but he still clearly hadn't accepted it. He explained how a fellow old-guard DJ had phoned him during Baker's first show and gasped "Have you HEARD what they've done to your show?!". Neither could believe that snooker on the radio had been replaced by a phone-in asking listeners if they'd ever got a child's sucker-based toy stuck to their foreheads.

And yes, Turmoil was fantastic...
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Well, reading all of that has reminded me of how much I hated the changes to Radio 1, particularly when DLT went.
I don't actually remember Baker's show but I certainly didn't like him at the time, or for many years after that ( Gazza Baker Evans clan. )
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Lady Boil De Spudswell wrote:
Saturday, August 25, 2007
Radio One More Time: The University Of Turmoil

We fear change

Danny Baker's arrival at Radio One should have been a triumph. And, in many ways, it was. Baker was fresh from the old Radio Five, quitting just a couple of months ahead of the network closing down to make way for Five Live - "when I suggested I might be going to Radio One, they weren't that bothered...". Although he hadn't managed to single-handedly save the station, he did at least pull it together to such a position that it was able to live out its final days in some sort of dignity. The "Morning Edition - and stick with it" baseball caps notwithstanding.

However, Baker was given a tricky beat - the old DLT slot, still warm from the departing dudgeon of the beared one, and probably the slot with the most conservative of all Radio One programmes. Gone was the snooker and the reassuring tales of life on a home counties farm with a Swedish wife, in came callers putting on rollerskates two sizes too small zooming over bubble wrap and a cast that included a Radio Five newsreader, the former editor of the NME and a man who sounded, well, working class.

The sudden shift in style was something of a leap - certainly bigger than Matthew Banister's other changes, such as the gentle fading out of Simon Bates to make room for Simon Mayo. In fact, Baker admitted to Mojo that he didn't even have a radio style as such: he just did what he thought radio was - a lot of talking with records plucked from a pile on the basis of what you want to hear next.

If Danny Baker is a bit of a acquired taste, the strongest thing on the menu was The University of Turmoil. Over the course of the programme, Danny Kelly would select images from that day's newspapers, usually of alarmed or worried looking people or animals, stick them on pieces of paper with the word "Turmoil" written on them - maybe with an inappropriate headline added on for good measure. The last page would deviate from the formula with the appearance of the phrase "WE FEAR CHANGE". Towards the end of the programme, Kelly would pass over the folder and - seeing his handiwork for the first time - Baker would attempt to describe the contents to the audience, hoping to get through the feature before his head hurt too much from laughing.

You had to be there. It was inspired.

Although, admittedly, not everyone who was there agreed.

Baker became the focus for most of those upset by the new sound of the station - quickly losing the Sunday slot, and eventually losing the Saturday one as well. However, by taking most of the heat generated over the new schedules, Baker effectively bought the space for the other changes to bed down and saved Radio One in a way that Chris Moyles could only dream of.

The University Of Turmoil resurfaced - just once - a couple of months ago on Baker's BBC Radio London show, for the first time in over a decade. It still is bloody inspired.


[Celebrating 40 years of Radio One: Radio One More Time]


By simon h b at 9:06 AM

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James said...
This show was fantastic. I loved how the phone-in subjects were absurdly specific - While local commercial radio was asking us to join their latest battle-of-the-sexes debate ("Giggly sidekick Sharon says women are the best drivers, but I know that's rubbish, so tell us what you think!"), Danny Baker was asking us to call him if we knew someone who almost had the same name as a celebrity, but not quite ("My boss is called Les O'Connor", etc). And yet it always worked, and it was a hoot.

My favourite stunts were when he was as testing out cartoon theories. One was a man cycling down a hill into a pond, to see if his hat followed him above water. Another was a caller filling a trumpet with soap to see if notes came out in bubbles when played.

I remember seeing DLT on one of those documentaries about the Radio 1 changes a few years ago. It was a long time after his replacement (Baker had long gone), but he still clearly hadn't accepted it. He explained how a fellow old-guard DJ had phoned him during Baker's first show and gasped "Have you HEARD what they've done to your show?!". Neither could believe that snooker on the radio had been replaced by a phone-in asking listeners if they'd ever got a child's sucker-based toy stuck to their foreheads.

And yes, Turmoil was fantastic...


Meanwhile, back on Planet Earth.....

If you wish to be kind to Danny Baker, cast him in the role of victim. Victim of Bannister's wrath. Still, now he has found his niche on an obscure BBC Local Radio station that I don't have to listen to. let him stay there. Don't inflict him on those of us who enjoy Radio 2.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Behind Geddon's Wall wrote:
Lady Boil De Spudswell wrote:
Saturday, August 25, 2007
Radio One More Time: The University Of Turmoil

We fear change

Danny Baker's arrival at Radio One should have been a triumph. And, in many ways, it was. Baker was fresh from the old Radio Five, quitting just a couple of months ahead of the network closing down to make way for Five Live - "when I suggested I might be going to Radio One, they weren't that bothered...". Although he hadn't managed to single-handedly save the station, he did at least pull it together to such a position that it was able to live out its final days in some sort of dignity. The "Morning Edition - and stick with it" baseball caps notwithstanding.

However, Baker was given a tricky beat - the old DLT slot, still warm from the departing dudgeon of the beared one, and probably the slot with the most conservative of all Radio One programmes. Gone was the snooker and the reassuring tales of life on a home counties farm with a Swedish wife, in came callers putting on rollerskates two sizes too small zooming over bubble wrap and a cast that included a Radio Five newsreader, the former editor of the NME and a man who sounded, well, working class.

The sudden shift in style was something of a leap - certainly bigger than Matthew Banister's other changes, such as the gentle fading out of Simon Bates to make room for Simon Mayo. In fact, Baker admitted to Mojo that he didn't even have a radio style as such: he just did what he thought radio was - a lot of talking with records plucked from a pile on the basis of what you want to hear next.

If Danny Baker is a bit of a acquired taste, the strongest thing on the menu was The University of Turmoil. Over the course of the programme, Danny Kelly would select images from that day's newspapers, usually of alarmed or worried looking people or animals, stick them on pieces of paper with the word "Turmoil" written on them - maybe with an inappropriate headline added on for good measure. The last page would deviate from the formula with the appearance of the phrase "WE FEAR CHANGE". Towards the end of the programme, Kelly would pass over the folder and - seeing his handiwork for the first time - Baker would attempt to describe the contents to the audience, hoping to get through the feature before his head hurt too much from laughing.

You had to be there. It was inspired.

Although, admittedly, not everyone who was there agreed.

Baker became the focus for most of those upset by the new sound of the station - quickly losing the Sunday slot, and eventually losing the Saturday one as well. However, by taking most of the heat generated over the new schedules, Baker effectively bought the space for the other changes to bed down and saved Radio One in a way that Chris Moyles could only dream of.

The University Of Turmoil resurfaced - just once - a couple of months ago on Baker's BBC Radio London show, for the first time in over a decade. It still is bloody inspired.


[Celebrating 40 years of Radio One: Radio One More Time]


By simon h b at 9:06 AM

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James said...
This show was fantastic. I loved how the phone-in subjects were absurdly specific - While local commercial radio was asking us to join their latest battle-of-the-sexes debate ("Giggly sidekick Sharon says women are the best drivers, but I know that's rubbish, so tell us what you think!"), Danny Baker was asking us to call him if we knew someone who almost had the same name as a celebrity, but not quite ("My boss is called Les O'Connor", etc). And yet it always worked, and it was a hoot.

My favourite stunts were when he was as testing out cartoon theories. One was a man cycling down a hill into a pond, to see if his hat followed him above water. Another was a caller filling a trumpet with soap to see if notes came out in bubbles when played.

I remember seeing DLT on one of those documentaries about the Radio 1 changes a few years ago. It was a long time after his replacement (Baker had long gone), but he still clearly hadn't accepted it. He explained how a fellow old-guard DJ had phoned him during Baker's first show and gasped "Have you HEARD what they've done to your show?!". Neither could believe that snooker on the radio had been replaced by a phone-in asking listeners if they'd ever got a child's sucker-based toy stuck to their foreheads.

And yes, Turmoil was fantastic...


Meanwhile, back on Planet Earth.....

If you wish to be kind to Danny Baker, cast him in the role of victim. Victim of Bannister's wrath. Still, now he has found his niche on an obscure BBC Local Radio station that I don't have to listen to. let him stay there. Don't inflict him on those of us who enjoy Radio 2.


A cursory glance at this MB suggests not many people do! He can only improve the mediocre carnage left by Messrs McCall, Thornton and Mitchell etc.
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The good news is Danny Baker is replacing the talentless Sean Keaveny from January...plus Gideon Coe is to be moved back to mid mornings. Both Sean Keaveny and George Lamb have failed to make an impression on 6 Music.
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