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Lord Evan Elpuss
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 Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:14 am Post subject: Music Marathon |
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Why is this no longer 24 hours (7:00pm Thursday - 7:00pm Friday)? I wonder if the R2 'night shift' now feel left out for not being part of it any more.
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Mark Mayhew
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:42 am Post subject: |
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| Perhaps I'm being thick but what is this about-more detail please. |
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nod
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Mark Mayhew
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:48 am Post subject: |
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Cheers Nod-apologies for being so slow on the uptake here.
CIN-no not for me any longer-it's lost its appeal. I'll contribute to other charities instead. |
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Rachel
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:18 am Post subject: |
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I don't know for sure being just at the upper end of middle management but ...think about it...The CIN team, phone people etc is a huge truck load of human resource in London... most (all) of the night-time output on R2 comes from Birmingham and that means either having to relay loads of messages/requests from London to Birmingham by carrier pigeon, making for a disjointed nightmare of job for the producers or moving all the Birmingham shows to London for just one night with convoys of hire cars, hotels etc etc etc Think Carbon Footprint!
With zillions of callers, the chances of getting your request played on the music marathon are pretty slim anyway.. so here's what to do. Check out the Radio 2 play list. Select a dozen or so ( More if you like) of the tracks, pop them in an e-mail and send to one of the Brum overnight shows with a request. It won't get read out but you can pretty much guarantee that you'll hear one of the tracks you've selected, so get your cheque book out and send a donation to CIN. Bingo!
I know. Brilliant!. That's why I'm in management!
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nod
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:22 am Post subject: |
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just buy the track / cd and listen to it when you want 
no charity involved, no need to be a sad old so and so staying up all night to hear your name mentioned...
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Scott_Nelson
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:42 am Post subject: |
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| It used to be a 24 hour event. Perhaps there wasn't many bids and requests during the night time hours? |
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Rachel
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:44 am Post subject: |
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| Scott_Nelson wrote: | | It used to be a 24 hour event. Perhaps there wasn't many bids and requests during the night time hours? |
It did ... well only once (2004)as I recall but they moved the shows to London for that. |
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Barkingbiker
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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I am not surprised, we have CIN forced down our throats morning noon & night, if you take the time & effort to make a request it is usually cut short, shared, talked over or all 3. I am not a "blue meanie", I donate at least 12 hours every week to a childrens movement, and often more with weekend activities, I donate, regularly to charities of my choice and gift aid the donation.
These auctions only seem to attract people who can afford huge sums of money, which I would guess is not missed and is also tax deductable. I just feel that the whole CIN has got like Christmas, hi-jacked by commercialism. [Dictionary definition of commercialism:- (esp. excessive) emphasis on financial profit as a measure of worth].
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mark occomore
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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I hope the ones who are spending the day on the dog and bone trying to get threw to hear their favourites aired, will pick something different than the usual, Abba - Dancing Queen etc etc?  |
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Scott_Nelson
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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I once pledged 50 pounds for Radio 2 to play an x-rated Eminem track. They declined my offer.
Your loss.  |
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gazmando
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Scott_Nelson wrote: | I once pledged 50 pounds for Radio 2 to play an x-rated Eminem track. They declined my offer.
Your loss. |
I pledged 60 quid for them not to play it. |
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Gnasty Gnome
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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Lord Evan; because the concept of CIN has passed its sell-by date.
That's why Sir Terry (who claims that an essential part of being a TOG is to ignore such restrictions) is the main proponent of this annual smug-fest.
I've never quite approved of CIN for the simple reason that it seems to raise zillions of pounds every year for which I've yet to see a tangible result. I hate to say this but I find Terry's claim that "every penny goes to the children" quite risible. Charity work is a multi-million pound business these days.
My other reason for disliking it is that I think that it disadvantages other charities since it enjoys such a high profile. There is a limit to what people can and will give to charity, and there are other charities which IMHO are equally if not more deserving than CIN, which don't get the same coverage.
I hasten to add that I do give to charity myself but I resent being "mugged" for a contribution. |
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mark occomore
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| Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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Terry is waiving his fee this year.
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nod
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| Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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| mark occomore wrote: | | Terry is waving his fee this year. |
Like Harry Enfields 'Loads of money' used to wave his wad about ? |
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mark occomore
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Ian Robinson
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| Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Gnasty Gnome wrote: | | I've never quite approved of CIN for the simple reason that it seems to raise zillions of pounds every year for which I've yet to see a tangible result. I hate to say this but I find Terry's claim that "every penny goes to the children" quite risible. Charity work is a multi-million pound business these days. |
There was an article in the papers recently that compared the ratio of various charity's money spent on fundraising and spending on charity. A Princess Anne sports charity was only giving 36% of it's income to good causes, while most give about 70-75%.
The top 2 charities were Children In Need and Comic Relief who gave IIRC 91% and 86% respectively. They're the top fundraisers but I believe the reason you don't see their names everywhere is because the money is fed down to smaller groups and charities. |
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Cherskiy
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| Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Barkingbiker wrote: | I am not surprised, we have CIN forced down our throats morning noon & night, if you take the time & effort to make a request it is usually cut short, shared, talked over or all 3. I am not a "blue meanie", I donate at least 12 hours every week to a childrens movement, and often more with weekend activities, I donate, regularly to charities of my choice and gift aid the donation.
These auctions only seem to attract people who can afford huge sums of money, which I would guess is not missed and is also tax deductable. I just feel that the whole CIN has got like Christmas, hi-jacked by commercialism. [Dictionary definition of commercialism:- (esp. excessive) emphasis on financial profit as a measure of worth].
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I gave up with CIN a few years ago for the reasons that you've outlined above, BB - whilst it's "all for a good cause", I'd change my mind if the likes of the British Heart Foundation or the Cystic Fibrosis Trust also got half as much wall-to-wall coverage on two national media networks (BBC1 and R2) for a complete week each year. I'd also applaud Mr and Mrs Wealthy who paid £75,000 for a meal with Roger Moore and TW if instead they'd had just quietly spread that amount around ten equally deserving (yet bereft of BBC sponsored patronage) charities, for nothing more than a simple letter of thanks from each telling them where the money would be spent.
Of course, none of the above is never going to happen. In the meantime, I prefer to give to charities that don't enjoy the sort of coverage (and therefore revenue) that CIN gets.
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BDG
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| Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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I think Ian makes the point well.
Whilst I know people don't like the auction where a few very well off people give a large amounts of money. It is however a complete fallacy about smaller charities because if look carefully at CIN and what they do, all of the money is given to much smaller causes and charities who without the grants from CIN would be unable to raise the money that CIN can on their behalf.
So I dispute the FACT that CIN does not raise money for smaller causes and/or charities.
Having said that I fully respect everyone's right to support the charity of their choice.
It's not too late to pledge btw the R2 team are about to take on R1 right NOW with Ken Bruce, Jeremy and Terry on the case  |
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Cherskiy
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| Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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| BDG wrote: | I think Ian makes the point well.
Whilst I know people don't like the auction where a few very well off people give a large amounts of money. It is however a complete fallacy about smaller charities because if look carefully at CIN and what they do, all of the money is given to much smaller causes and charities who without the grants from CIN would be unable to raise the money that CIN can on their behalf.
So I dispute the FACT that CIN does not raise money for smaller causes and/or charities.
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Well, if that's the case, I wish they'd make it clearer, and spend more time telling us what last year's money was put towards in the weeklong run-up....
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pickle
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| Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 1:04 pm Post subject: Music Marathon |
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I don't take it that seriously as I'm now working for a company that is in need of funding themselves.
I'm not expecting the Spice Girls or Kylie to fund an environmental and business centre somehow. Promoting a department store is another thing.
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Rob
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 11:18 am Post subject: |
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I actively support my local hospital radio station (best if you chose a charity that's aligned to your interests!) and I'm a governor at my son's school - both voluntary activities, the radio station being a registered charity.
The radio station applied for CIN funding to provide listening facilities in the children's wards about 15 years ago. We didn't get the money, but I know that the trustees are hopelessly over-subscribed. I now make my donations direct rather than through a media front end.
Is it me, or did we get rather more of what CIN does with the money in previous years? I remember taping the show one year and fast forwarding through these bits...
Rob. |
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