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SantaFefan



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 4:32 pm    Post subject: Drinking on the Streets... Reply with quote

Typical of this country, make any law as complicated as possible thus rendering it practically useless.
Why do they have to make it "persistent" offenders? why not make it illegal for teens to drink on the streets and that's that.
I can't be sure, but I think it's the law in some US states so why not here.
I'm of the opinion that drink is the main cause for most of today's bad behaviour.
I, like others on here no doubt, have had cause to complain about yobbish louts hanging around drinking, but on the last occasion, the 10 year old community copper Rolling Eyes said "well they're not too much of a problem at the moment" ( even though they had given an elderly lady some hassle and were riding those really, really annoying mini motorbikes up and down the promenade - illegally I might add... )
Of course when they left, there were numerous bottles and cans strewn around the place.
This is what the law needs to deal with too - the low end of crime! it's what matters to the individual.
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gfloyd



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well today Bob Crow of the RMT union, has called on Boris Johnson to apologise because drunken people acted underground staff & police last night.

So accrording to Crow its not the drunken yobs who are to blame. Its the mayor, because he provoked them by banning alcohol on the Tube.

When you have people with their heads as far up their own backside as Crow, there isn't much hope. Rolling Eyes
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mark occomore



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think those who were involved should be sacked from their jobs. This should have been sensible not a whole bunch of drunkin yobs, male and female. It's a disgrace about those drivers who got assualted and damage was done to trains. I hope the CCTV gets those ones involved.
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RockitRon



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree that drinking on the streets, beyond the limits of pubs and outside cafes, should be banned (I'm not even very keen on people eating and consuming soft drink "on the hoof" - it looks horrible and invariably they don't dispose of their litter properly). Many city centres have passed bylaws already, but, as usual, the problem then is having sufficient resources to police them.

Drinking on suburban public transport should have been stopped long ago. The "last cocktail party on the Circle" was trouble advertised well in advance and could have been nipped in the bud by the police and LRT - most weekends the line is closed for engineering work and it wouldn't have hurt to have shut it down early to pre-empt the activity.
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iwarburton



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think the Mayor needs to apologise but I have some sympathy with RMT members and others who'll be at the sharp end of enforcing this law, however desirable it might be as an end in itself.

Ian.
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childprufe



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If we really want to address problems of disorder on the streets and on the transport system, we need to persuade the government to divert some of its spending into providing adequate policing.
The diversion of 1 day's social security benefits would provide enough money to pay the salaries of 10,000 police officers for 1 year.
Far be it from me to suggest that some of that money would be diverted away from the off-licences also.................. Wink
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