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John W



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:35 am    Post subject: Jersey children's home investigation Reply with quote

The investigation is going to take a long time, why do we need daily updates with very little news to add?

OK, the publcity has meant a lot of former inmates hearing about it offering evidence etc.

But it's not as if it's the only home where abuse took place. Charles Dickens suggested over 100 years ago that abuse was common in homes. The situation has been tolerated by the country as a whole for decades but cover ups were also tolerated and children were always too ashamed or frightened to report anything.

Events at Jersey might mean reports coming in about dozens of homes around the country, how will the police cope?

Some reporters are starting to ridicule the chief in charge of the Jersey enquiry, about the way he's handling the investigation and comments he makes.

I read somewhere about previous use of the building where the home is, about rubble 'imported' by builders and that the child's skull may have come in with the rubble......
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the problem is that the media want big revelations and narrative. So after the initial find of a skull, they were hoping for more of the same on a daily basis with more stories of horror coming out.

As that hasn't happened, some people have got frustrated and taken to attacking the police chief.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Jersey children's home investigation Reply with quote

John W wrote:
Events at Jersey might mean reports coming in about dozens of homes around the country, how will the police cope?


Well its a serious crime, so the police will have to prioritise. Surely people should be encouraged not discouraged from reporting serious crime?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For sure ernie, but who is guilty, not just the perpetrators. Same with domestic staff of the nobility, everyone knew it was going on, so who was guilty Confused
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

John W wrote:
For sure ernie, but who is guilty, not just the perpetrators. Same with domestic staff of the nobility, everyone knew it was going on, so who was guilty Confused


Its a valid question, but people who did nothing share a part of the guilt. I think the lesson is that the past catches up eventually with people who do bad things or who turn a blind eye. And thats no bad thing. It might make people today think twice if nothing else.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/jersey/7724622.stm

A possible happy-ish ending. We didn't really want to end up reading about macabre deeds and buried children's bodies in a Jersey mansion, and, after many months and £4m, it looks as though we shan't have to.

The timing of the news, just before a report into child abuse in the island's care homes is published, is opportune.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RockitRon wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/jersey/7724622.stm

A possible happy-ish ending. We didn't really want to end up reading about macabre deeds and buried children's bodies in a Jersey mansion, and, after many months and £4m, it looks as though we shan't have to.

The timing of the news, just before a report into child abuse in the island's care homes is published, is opportune.


A little bit of a cock up somewhere along the lines?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A case of initially putting two and two together and making five, fuelled by the inevitable media interest.

Of course the political investigations and ramifications to come will probably go on longer and cost more than the original forensic ones. The lawyers and paper manufacturers must be licking their lips in anticipation.
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