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SantaFefan
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Yes, it's unimaginable how it must feel to get shocking news like this.. I was no fan of Ms Goody and her antics in the past but it really is a tragedy for this to happen to anybody so young..
It makes me feel I shouldn't moan about anything ever again.. 
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John W
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These reported tragic circumstances just make all her recent events the worst kind of 'reality TV' - these events are actually happening to her, if we are to believe everything, like today "Jade to marry after Jack Tweed proposes" 
Is Max Clifford on a Goody little earner while all this enfolds?
I don't know why I bother reading the stuff |
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nod
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Is Max Clifford on a Goody little earner while all this enfolds?
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I thought it was interesting that he was described as a 'friend' on the news last night.
Like others I am no fan of Jade Goody , and the whole reality / celeb carry on, but do feel sorry for her and her kids. |
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Helen May
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I agree John.
She isn't the first person to have this terrible illness and it's devastating for anyone who has it.
Like you I'm not reading it and I hope we are not going to get a day by day report from now on.
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nod
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| Helen May wrote: | Like you I'm not reading it and I hope we are not going to get a day by day report from now on.
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Sadly I think we will as she is trying to maximise her income to leave to her kids and it will be plugged by her PR etc. Apparently its on LIVING TV or similar |
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RockitRon
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She seems to have been a born opportunist, and you cannot blame her for taking maximum opportunity out of a gullible press now, for the benefit of her offspring.
The only good thing is the publicity it has brought to the widest public attention of the importance of cervical screening, and of not ignoring anything abnormal, or those reminders your doctor sends out (ours thinks it so important they send them by recorded delivery).
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| Too true Rockit. She said she ignored the first warning. So why should we feel pity? |
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Minx
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I guess because we don't always do things right. Sometimes we choose to overlook things - I wouldn't, (I hope) but then no-one (least of all Jade Goody) claims to be the sharpest knife in the drawer. And the young tend to think they are pretty much immortal.
I've never had any time for the woman, but somehow I find myself really unnerved and overawed by her complete open-ness, and I despair for her in the moments when the publicity must, (ethical standards hopefully prevailing) desert her, and she has to succumb to the inevitable without the oxygen of the publicity which has been such a forceful influence in her recent years.
But then again I read that she is talking about having her death filmed. Who knows what to believe. I wish her well, whatever.,
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There is something very undignified about the constant updates regarding her condition. I should have thought she would prefer to spend time with her sons given that she appears to have limited time left, but instead she cavorts in front of tv cameras and gives interview after interview. Still it is her choice at the end of the day and I would not want to be in her situation, I don't like the girl but I would not wish this on anyone.
I do think having her death filmed is taking it a bit far though, car crash tv at it's worst.
She should have gone for tests but it's easy to be wise in hindsight I guess. |
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I wouldn't exactly call myself a Jade Goody fan but my heart goes out to her, her children and her fiance right now.
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SantaFefan
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poor choice of record on today's show... after JV's slow, deeply sympathetic tones about the upcoming section on Ms Goody, they play " I feel Good" by James Brown! 
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John W
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A member today opened another thread on Goody. The thread has been removed and the member has received a final warning regarding posts in bad taste.
Any postings on the subject of Goody must be posted on this thread.
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colby
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| Toggy wrote: | | There is something very undignified about the constant updates regarding her condition. |
Not really. She has briefed Max Clifford to keep the story in the public domain in order to maximise the cash fund which will be placed in trust for her kids. She wants the publicity for that purpose alone, so you can't really blame Clifford for doing his job nor the media for using the many press releases they're receiving from Clifford's office. |
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mark occomore
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| Jade has secured a deal with OK Magazine to photos of her wedding which is in a region of 700K. I would expect a lot of her money is going to be left in trust to pay for boys eduction and beyond. |
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John W
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| mark occomore wrote: | | Jade has secured a deal with OK Magazine to photos of her wedding which is in a region of 700K. I would expect a lot of her money is going to be left in trust to pay for boys eduction and beyond. |
And the rest is going where? |
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colby
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| mark occomore wrote: | | I would expect a lot of her money is going to be left in trust to pay for boys eduction and beyond. |
Er, that is the general idea Mark, as was stated by both herself and Clifford at the outset.  |
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mark occomore
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| colby wrote: | | mark occomore wrote: | | I would expect a lot of her money is going to be left in trust to pay for boys eduction and beyond. |
Er, that is the general idea Mark, as was stated by both herself and Clifford at the outset. |
Some people have no zavvi to think she is not out just to get publicity, and don't have any idea what she is doing this for. Thats why I wrote that. I think some people in this country need to think before they jump. |
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colby
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I'm sure that most people now know why she's doing what she's doing, and if they're criticising her for her motive they must either be callous or stupid - or both.
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| mark occomore wrote: | | Some people have no zavvi.... |
We don't either. Ours closed today as it happens. |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:56 pm Post subject: The Loan Arranger Rides away..... |
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I understand why she is doing it and fair play to her, I hope she has a nice day at her wedding, though why she is marrying that snake I just don't know.
Some folks seem to think she is making the whole thing up, I find this bizarre not to mention sad. |
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iwarburton
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JG's about-to-be-husband doesn't sound a very savoury person and, in almost any other circumstances, I'd have expected his parole conditions to be met to the letter. But this is such an exceptional case that I think it's only right for them to be relaxed a little.
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colby
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| iwarburton wrote: | | JG's about-to-be-husband doesn't sound a very savoury person and, in almost any other circumstances, I'd have expected his parole conditions to be met to the letter. But this is such an exceptional case that I think it's only right for them to be relaxed a little. |
I agree. I think it's also important to bear in mind the extremely negative PR that the Home Secretary would have faced if not relaxing the restriction. Imagine the headlines in the tabloids if they'd not agreed to make an exceptional case of this! |
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mark occomore
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| Not being nasty, but thousands of mourners / guests enter the church, but not the actual funeral today will be there not just for the wedding to say goodbye... I'm sure we will see that in the future documentary, people will be able to judge if it looks a little sick or morbid. I would feel very uncomfortable. Then the funeral which should really be a private ceremony. I hope that wont be filmed for Living TV? |
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| mark occomore wrote: | | ... but thousands of mourners / guests enter the church, but not the actual funeral today will be there not just for the wedding to say goodbye... |
What are you saying ? |
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SantaFefan
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I think it's a case of both emotions as Mark said, most are attending not only to celebrate the wedding, but to say goodbye to her in life too...
I watched a programme about Patrick Swayze talking about his situation last night.. it's all very sad to see somebody facing the end of their life.
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It's all very upsetting and I feel very sorry for her despite my dislike of all that she has stood for, ie the pursuit of celebrity for celebrity's sake.
I read in an article the other day that "in the leaving of life, she has been accorded an esteem which was never hers in the living of it". How true is that? I wouldn't mind betting that the guest list at today's affair would be quite a different thing under happier circumstances
When the whole thing is over, no doubt there will rafts of psychologists, sociologists and media studies buffs analysing the phenomena of Jade Goody and the public's reaction to her. This will run and run I guess. 
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iwarburton
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Why do I get the feeling that, when the final tragedy occurs, as is beginning to look inevitable, there will be more Diana-style hysteria sweeping the country?
Ian. |
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| The whole media thing around Jade is quite odd. In each of our own lives we already know lots of people that we have seen for the last time- we just don’t know it. |
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colby
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| Rachel wrote: | | The whole media thing around Jade is quite odd. In each of our own lives we already know lots of people that we have seen for the last time- we just don’t know it. |
I think the reasoning is quite simple. She's a so-called "celeb" who has managed very skilfully to keep herself in the public eye through her relatively short "career" and she is more skilful at attracting media attention than most of us gave her credit for.
She's using her terminal illness to raise as much money as possible for her three children's future, and is using the services of the best PR man in the business to achieve that goal. As such, she has a very saleable "story" that she (and Max Clifford) knew the press would buy into. And they did.
I can't say I blame - in fact I applaud her. |
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It's almost ghoulish, although I believe they have promised that they are going to leave her alone now - we won't get a deathbed scene live on Channel Four.
I can't blame her for making the most of the opportunity (to garner money for her children) but it's not something I have wanted to watch, or read the graphic detail of. Most of us have borne the loss of close family and friends, whether expected or not, in quiet privacy, and that has been bad enough.
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| RockitRon wrote: | | It's almost ghoulish, although I believe they have promised that they are going to leave her alone now - we won't get a deathbed scene live on Channel Four. |
I don't think it's ghoulish. As Max Clifford said on BBC Breakfast News this morning, "Jade is control of this whole process. If it happens it's because she wants it to happen, likewise if she doesn't".
He also implied that the media has been respectful of her dignity and is "playing fair" (for once).
Another positive outcome is that it has raised awareness about Cervical Cancer hugely. |
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