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mark occomore



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:46 pm    Post subject: Advertising Condoms and Abortion Reply with quote

I don't think advertising this will cut pregnancy or sexual diseases? I think advertising Abortion clinics will only think a young female can have sex and get rid of a human life. I don't believe in abortion even if the child has a problem.

Advertising products in the past haven't really worked. Look at Drink adverts about the effects haven't really stopped people.
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colby



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Advertising Condoms and Abortion Reply with quote

mark occomore wrote:
Advertising products in the past haven't really worked.


What... no products at all? No advertising of anything works? Not true at all.
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mark occomore



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 8:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Advertising Condoms and Abortion Reply with quote

colby wrote:
mark occomore wrote:
Advertising products in the past haven't really worked.


What... no products at all? No advertising of anything works? Not true at all.


The effects of advertising booze, and the effects which it can cause has increased. The news coverage of binge drinkers with pictures of people falling over in the streets is making it worse.

What, advertising condoms is really to stop people catching diseases, or is the truth too stop the increase of the population in the UK?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Advertising Condoms and Abortion Reply with quote

mark occomore wrote:
The effects of advertising booze, and the effects which it can cause has increased.


I don't agree. Alcohol advertising across al media is strictly regulated in the UK and I don't think that regulating it any more tightly will make any difference.

mark occomore wrote:
The news coverage of binge drinkers with pictures of people falling over in the streets is making it worse.


And who determines the "news coverage"? Lord Reith used to describe his beloved BBC as "the window on the world" whilst negating to tell us into which wall the window had been inserted.

People are responsible for their drink problems, so let's not pass the buck. I've enjoyed a few pints at least once a week for over 30 years and I'm what might be described a responsible drinker, and such is the case for the vast majority of people in my position. Has there ever been any "news coverage" of my Friday-night visit to the pub? Nope. Think about it........

mark occomore wrote:
What, advertising condoms is really to stop people catching diseases, or is the truth too stop the increase of the population in the UK?


I guess the alternative is not to provide any information and guidance to vulnerable people at all and pretend that such problems don't even exist. Is that what you'd prefer?

I can't see what difference exists between the current "Say yes to Condoms" public information campaign and paid-for advertising by condom makers. None at all. Every bit of information is better, not worse.

And, finally, passing a moral judgement against abortion is wrong, in my opinion. I neither agree nor disagree with abortion, but as I'm a bloke rather than being a woman faced with an agonising decision I don't see that I'm qualified to judge. Simple.

You can recommend sweeping such stuff under the carpet if you like but I definitely don't.
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iwarburton



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not completely against advertising abortion on TV, though I'd prefer it to be confined to post-watershed.

But I trust that abortion will be presented as only one of a series of options and not the be-all and end-all.

I couldn't disagree more with the old chestnut that abortion is somehow only a women's issue. This is a moral issue which affects everyone, regardless of their stance.

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colby



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can speak from very personal experience on this one and - yes - you're right to state that it isn't an issue that's confined to the woman. Last month, my son and his girlfriend (both of whom are in their mid-twenties, have responsible jobs, mortgage, etc) were faced with the prospect of an unwanted (maybe) pregnancy. The issue of abortion was discussed at length - though my son didn't really want it to come to that if possible.

Thankfully, nature took its course and the worrying ended. But both partners worried at having to face up to facts and we as parents supported whatever decision they would take.

I think the one question that doesn't seem to get raised with young people who are inclined at a very young age (ie: 14, 15 or 16) is: "Does a newborn baby actually deserve you two as parents? Are you really sure that's what you want?".

It just annoys me that so many stupid young people give birth to kids and who have no skills whatever when it comes to catering for their every need - physical, emotional and educational.

Maybe we have to get tougher - and to achieve that the message has to reach those to whom it's targetted. You can't necessarily do that if you limit broadcast to post-watershed times.
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