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mark occomore
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 Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:00 pm Post subject: Radio 2 Controller On R4 Feedback |
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| Quote: | Radio 2 Controller, Bob Shennan will be on Radio 4's 'Feedback' on Friday afternoon @ 1:30PM.
I was asked to contribute to the programme and recorded a piece, which may or may not be edited / broadcast.
However, this should prove to be an interesting opportunity for Mr Shennan to explain the rationale behind the way Radio 2 is going.
The programme will be repeated on Sunday and will be available on Iplayer |
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Interesting. Could Feedback take one or two questions from this message board
1. Why is the station turning into a celebrity TV radio station?
2. Why is the music been let down in place of certain celebrities who no nowt about it and only there to entertain us?
3. Could we have some real solid radio DJ's coming to the station
Yes the listeners are being let down. |
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John W
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| Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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One of our members (he has never posted but he posts instead on R2MB and DS) John Petters, will be on Feedback.
It's just a repeat of what I went through in Dec 2008 after Malcolm Laycock was stopped playing dance bands.
On that occasion they recorded me over the phone and on the Friday executive producer Bob McDowall gave a very poor response, total garbage in fact which didn't address the points properly and that was the last in that Feedback series.
I did, though, follow up with e-mail exchanges with McDowall where it became obvious that he didn't know the show's audience, and he didn't know the show's music very well either - and he makes all the decisions 
I wish John P well, but if the interaction isn't like face to face there is little to be gained as the producers just give meaningless media jargon responses and don't address the issues properly.
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mark occomore
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| Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:07 am Post subject: |
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| According to Bob Shennan Chris Evans was the only person to take over from Wogan. Jonathan Ross was mentioned about his recorded show and the show is recorded live, but rarly edited. Radio 2 average audience is 50, but went up after the latest rajars were released. |
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mark occomore
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| Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:10 am Post subject: |
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| Bob wouldn't really confirm if Mark Radcliffe was staying. |
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John W
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| Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:13 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | According to Bob Shennan Chris Evans was the only person to take over from Wogan. |
Hmmm, employment law requires interviewing more than one person for a job.....
On Feedback I thought all the 'callers' got their points across very well, but issues with the music playlist on R2, the loss of dance band music, and the replacement of Wogan with Chris Evans are all subjects that have upset R2 listeners and yet they have to air these grievances on a R4 programme?
As usual the BBC spokesperson, controller Bob Shennan, did not really address the issues.
How can he say Chris Evans is a brilliant radio broadcaster? If you listen to Drivetime, Evans shouts all the time, he interrupts the music all the time, he takes over the show with some silly idea that he thinks is important when really it's not important but just an excuse for him to shout about it! How can any of that be the mark of a great broadcaster? A great radio broadcaster puts the listeners first, while Evans just uses the listeners as a way to make his own voice heard more and more, louder and louder.
I really do expect Evans to be a disaster on breakfast - well, I really do hope so.
Shennan did sound sympathetic to Malcolm Laycock, and mentioned private issues as well as programme and contract issues, but I have seen little evidence of his claim that British dance band music will still be included in R2 schedules. There's no point just scattering the odd track during Clare Teal or Desmond's shows; fans of British dance band music don't want to listen to Stan Kenton and Glenn Miller for an hour in the hope of hearing a Billy Cotton record.
And now the Radio 2 playlist, and in particular the daytime playlist. Shennan tries to justify the predominance of chart pop music during the daytime and says there's only 4% overlap with other BBC stations. I think he forgot to include BBC Local Radio in his comparison. It's clear to me that the R2 daytime playlists do not cater for millions of licence payers who have developed music tastes outside pop chart.
Unbelievably Shennan said Radio 2 "should not be playing what other stations don't play" - eh, Bob, I suggest you read the Radio 2 licence documents, the remit requires that Radio 2 complement other stations and not compete with them.
So Shennan clearly states that he has no intention of complying with the licence requirements. I hope the BBC Trust look into Shennan's plans for Radio 2 more closely before any further changes take place.
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MadeinSurrey
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| Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:35 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for that John. So he said {Radio 2 "should not be playing what other stations don't play"}  
Unbelievable. I think we need a new Controller, pronto .
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Lord Evan Elpuss
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| Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 11:12 am Post subject: |
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| MadeinSurrey wrote: | | I think we need a new Controller, pronto . |
And preferably one who isn't in thrall to either Evans or the 'celeb' culture.
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John W
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| Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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| MadeinSurrey wrote: | Thanks for that John. So he said {Radio 2 "should not be playing what other stations don't play"}
Unbelievable. I think we need a new Controller, pronto . |
Well he actually said 'Radio 2 should not be defined by what other stations don't play'
so I interpreted that as
Radio 2 "should not be playing what other stations don't play"
maybe I should interpret it as
Radio 2 "should not be JUST playing what other stations don't play"
but most of the time Radio 2 does play what other stations play.
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gazmando
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| Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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I was hoping against hope that Bob Shennan would address the issue of the constant repetition of songs aimed at teenagers during the daytime programmes.
Judging by what you say John that hasn't happened and I don't know if I can bear to listen to the show now, knowing that we are going to be let down yet again. |
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mark occomore
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| Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Radio 2 employs celeb broadcasters who will attract the younger listener. They will won't to hear songs by Pixie Lotts not the Beatles. I like him saying we have introduced different music to Wogan and Evans shows. Thats because they have to add them, not Evans will care, because he will go and try to acheive his upmost to be as big as Wogan. Shame a question wasn't asked, " Why is Chris Evans breakfast been pushed forward by half hour? |
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gazmando
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| Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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I know young people who like the Beatles.
I also don't know anyone who likes repetitious playlists. |
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Triumph Herald
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| Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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| mark occomore wrote: | | Shame a question wasn't asked, " Why is Chris Evans breakfast been pushed forward by half hour? |
One key reason they probably wouldn't want to admit is that by changing the timings of the breakfast slot, direct comparison of Wogan's figures with Evans's will be more difficult. There's bound to be a drop to start with, but rolling in an extra half hour's worth will make the headline figure look better. |
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