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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:16 pm    Post subject: Saddam Hussein Executed Reply with quote

The video tape of Saddam being hanged looks like being shown around the world to show everyone it has been take place!!

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I won't be watching, I find it rather sick. I'm not saying I disagree with the verdict but I don't wish to watch anybody die.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really?

Is this going to be broadcast anywhere legit though? Or just seedy websites that aren't licenced to show it?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This was carried out a 3am UK time and 6am Iraq time just before sunrise.

In a statement on behalf of the UK government:

"I welcome the fact that Saddam Hussein has been tried by an Iraqi court for at least some of the appalling crimes he committed against the Iraqi people. He has now been held to account.

"The British government does not support the use of the death penalty, in Iraq or anywhere else. We advocate an end to the death penalty worldwide, regardless of the individual or the crime.

"We have made our position very clear to the Iraqi authorities, but we respect their decision as that of a sovereign nation."

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Bush Statement:

"Today Saddam Hussein was executed after receiving a fair trial - the kind of justice he denied the victims of his brutal regime.

"Saddam Hussein's execution comes at the end of a difficult year for the Iraqi people and for our troops. Bringing [him] to justice will not end the violence in Iraq, but it is an important milestone on Iraq's course to becoming a democracy that can govern, sustain, and defend itself, and be an ally in the war on terror.

"Many difficult choices and further sacrifices lie ahead. Yet the safety and security of the American people require that we not relent in ensuring that Iraq's young democracy continues to progress."
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

admin wrote:
Really?

Is this going to be broadcast anywhere legit though? Or just seedy websites that aren't licenced to show it?


It was broadcast on many Arabic TV channels, most available via satellite.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think he should of been kept alive and put on trial for the other things he did? I sure this would of happened if Bush wasn't president. A lot of people will be glad to see the back of him, but it wont stop the violence and I'am sure the US wont librate Iraq for many, many more years. I can't wait for trigger finger bush out of office. The man is an idiiot and will not be able to repair any wars which he has caused, and dragged us down with him.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mark occomore wrote:
I think he should of been kept alive and put on trial for the other things he did?


No, it was better to execute him now after proving one case against him. Why waste good time and money going after him for every damn thing?
then spend a fortune keeping him well looked after in jail.

We should do this in this country for murder, if the case is proven beyond doubt, execute 'em, save taxpayer's money.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was necessary for filmed evidence to be made available in order that no-one should consider the taking of hostages to force the authorities to release Sadaam.
People of a certain age will recall the murderous campaign of the Palestine Liberation Organisation to obtain the release of their imprisoned comrades in the 70's.
I have witnessed hangings and find the ritual barbaric. I do not wish to see the film coverage, but believe that conclusive proof of the demise of the old monster is imperative.
Properly carried out, hanging was the quickest, most humane way of carrying out capital punishment, but times have changed and possibly a lethal injection could have been used, but that would not have provided the visual evidence required.
He did not deserve to be shot as a soldier. He was a war criminal who used weapons of mass destruction to his own ends.
AND I can do without sanctimonious members of the British government spouting on about their opposition to the death penalty when they are allowing extradition procedures to continue against alleged Rwandan war criminals, who will face certain execution if the proceedings succeed.

Rant over. Peace and goodwill to all.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When Hitler died, were there loads of people of the TV and radio and in the papers saying it was all the US/ UK's fault that he had come to power in the first place?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TV wasn't operational at the time of Hitler's death. I don't know what the other media said.

I'm against the death penalty, even for evil dictators. I'd hsve preferred to see Saddam Hussain jailed and subjected to total degradation eg doing all the most horrible, humiliating jobs they could find him.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

iwarburton wrote:
TV wasn't operational at the time of Hitler's death. I don't know what the other media said.
Ian.


TV was operational in May 1945 - pre-war transmissions were made in Britain, France, Germany, the USA and USSR. Transmissions were halted, however, in all countries except the USA (so you're partly correct in that most countries did not have a working TV service at that time.

The Germans built the first 'smart bomb' - the Henschel Hs293D - a standard Hs293 glider bomb fitted with a minature TV camera that relayed pictures back to the drop aircraft. Although built, the system was never used in anger.

I think it took a while before historians and commentators started looking for the reasons behind Hitler's rise to power.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TV was operational in May 1945 - pre-war transmissions were made in Britain, France, Germany, the USA and USSR. Transmissions were halted, however, in all countries except the USA (so you're partly correct in that most countries did not have a working TV service at that time.
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Sorry, I wasn't quite explicit enough. TV in the UK started in Nov 36 but was suspended from Sept 39 till June 46, hence my original comment.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was interested to learn that when BBC resumed broadcasts in June 1946, the announcer first said "I'm (such and such), do you remember me?", then the first programme shown was the same Mickey Mouse cartoon that was interrupted on 3rd September 1939....

And no need to apologise - just me being picky.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Iraqi government has launched an inquiry into unofficial mobile phone footage showing the execution of former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein.

The mobile phone footage showed he exchanged taunts and insults with witnesses at his hanging on Saturday.

The grainy video showed the former leader being told to "go to hell" bysomeone attending the hanging.
UK Deputy Prime Minister John Prescott said the circumstances of the execution were "deplorable".

The Iraqi authorities fear the footage, released on the internet hours after the execution, could contribute to a dramatic rise in sectarian tensions between Iraq's Sunni and Shia communities.

"There were a few guards who shouted slogans that were inappropriate and that's now the subject of a government investigation," an adviser to Prime Minister Nouri Maliki, Sami al-Askari, told Reuters news agency.

Saddam Hussein, a Sunni Muslim, was sentenced to death by an Iraqi court on 5 November over the killings of 148 Shias from the town of Dujail in the 1980s.

He was executed before dawn on Saturday in Baghdad and buried near his hometown of Tikrit a day later.


I think whoever was involved and responsible for it should be ashamed of themselves

The Iraq authorities released official footage of the execution, to prove to the public that Saddam Hussein was dead.

But that film did not include any sound and did not show the actual moment of death.

The grainy mobile phone footage that emerged hours later was shot from below the gallows.


As Saddam Hussein is led towards the trapdoor, one of the unseen observers shouts "go to hell".

Others can be heard chanting the name of Shia cleric Moqtada Sadr and of Muhammad Sadiq Sadr, his father who was murdered by Saddam Hussein's agents.

In response Saddam Hussein is sarcastic, asking "do you consider this bravery?"

In a BBC interview, John Prescott called it "deplorable" and "totally unacceptable" that video clips of the execution had surfaced on the internet.

Mr Prescott is in charge while Prime Minister Tony Blair is on holiday.

"I think the manner was quite deplorable really," he said. "I don't think one can endorse in any way that, whatever your views about capital punishment.

"Frankly, to get the kind of recorded messages coming out is totally unacceptable, and I think whoever was involved and responsible for it should be ashamed of themselves."
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is all this nonsense about an inquiry into people taunting & calling Saddam names before they hung him?

So let me get this right, it is ok to hang him but not to call him names.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gfloyd wrote:
As Terry would say, Is it me?


No, it isn't. But the media loves to hype non-news items up, ones that happily remain outside the cosy world of the unknowing, unseeing public, without doing anyone any harm, like the stories that appeared following an RAF serviceman posting this Youtube video of 4 Sqdn letting off a bit of steam in Afghanistan recently:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbqQr2EEtHA

The GR.7A pilot is at about 25 feet - the squaddie could have stayed standing up but he'd have probably had an interesting tattoo to show for it.

Typically, the newsies started talking b*llocks and started flapping about dangerous flying, etc. - although it looks low, the pilot looks like he had control of the aircraft at all times (radio altimeters, anyone?) and the squaddie wasn't in any real danger as long as he didn't jump in the air....

Hell, I've seen a Jaguar at 25 feet before (no names, no pack drill) - the forward air controllers I was with just shook their heads and muttered "show-off".... although I took the safe option and ducked rather than take a photo! Smile Or this Harrier at Spadeadam back in the late 1980s - click on 'Video' then 'Harrier Spadeadam':

http://www.lfa17.org/

(The limit in the UK is 100 feet in special circumstances.... he was a little bit lower.)
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two of Saddam Hussein's key aides have been hanged in Baghdad, two weeks after the chaotic execution of the former Iraqi president.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6261965.stm

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Apparently one of the mens head came away from the body, which is common is some hangings
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought it quite funny that Amnesty International were jumping up & down in defence of Saddam Hussein, against his trial & his sentence.
Amnesty used to be against human rights abuses. Now they just worry in case human rights abusing dictators are mis treated
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