R2OK! Forum Index R2OK!
Contact R2OK! admin

Click here for R2OK! Website


 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

What age group is the breakfast show aimed at?
Goto page 1, 2  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    R2OK! Forum Index -> Shows and Music on Radio 2
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Jediworrier



Joined: 19 Mar 2007
Posts: 43

PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:26 pm    Post subject: What age group is the breakfast show aimed at? Reply with quote

Trying to keep personal opinions aside can anyone tell me what sort of age group the show's aimed at? From what little (but enough) that I've heard so far it seems to contain music that may well keep the TOGS happy with banter aimed at children which seems a little odd as the children would probably prefer newer music whilst those that appreciate the music would most likely prefer an adult presentation style.
Also, I do wonder if the trailer with the clarinet was the best bit they could find to promote the show or if someone was having a laugh as I can't believe their intention was to make it sound so naff!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Clive55



Joined: 08 Dec 2006
Posts: 1336

PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris wants his show to be a family show, which everone from little kids to granny's can enjoy. I think he's getting there Cool
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Helen May



Joined: 10 Dec 2006
Posts: 17886
Location: Cheshire

PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think you have got it in one there Jedi !

Why does everything have to be family centred? We don't have one (apart from aging parents) and I'm sick of 'family'. Give me some adult centred programmes please!

H
_________________
88 - 91 FM this is Radio 2 from the BBC!

I said it live on air in the studio with Jeremy Vine on 10/3/2005
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
MadeinSurrey



Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Posts: 3130
Location: The Beautiful South

PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the bits I have endured, it sounds as though they're aiming for those with a mental age of under 10. Rolling Eyes
_________________
MiS
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Angus McCoatup



Joined: 22 Nov 2007
Posts: 221
Location: , Location, Location

PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MadeinSurrey wrote:
From the bits I have endured, it sounds as though they're aiming for those with a mental age of under 10. Rolling Eyes


Tsk tsk MiS, I thought we were supposed to be keeping personal opinions aside!! I think you're being a bit generous with 10 though. Under 5 might be more appropriate.....

Clive55 wrote:

Chris wants his show to be a family show, which everone from little kids to granny's can enjoy. I think he's getting there


I disagree. I think he's managed to stop at little kids. Anyone over the age of primary school leaving age will be insulted by this childish format.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
NickSheffield



Joined: 22 Jul 2007
Posts: 508

PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jedi, you're right. Looking at criticisms on the blogs and Twitter (I do weird things for fun...), there's a lot of criticism from people of my generation who listened to Chris growing up and are now tuning in to R2 for the first time only to be disappointed by the music (one phrase that's stuck on Twitter is "blue rinse brigade"). As we know, most TOGS' criticism lies with the man - which does suggest Chris is doing breakfast on the wrong station. There's a desperate need for high quality adult radio with a wide range of music.... I get it now.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Behind Geddon's Wall



Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Posts: 1553
Location: Kingston Upon Hull/ The Cloud Factory

PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like others, from the bits I've caught, I believe that this is a Breakfast show that belongs in the era of matthew Bannister, Hatchet Man Dann and Blagging Fridays off. The semi decent music is overwhelmed by banal and inane blatherings in an attempt to appease those whose age is less than their shoe size.
We may have been spoiled by Terry, but no plethera of advertising on the telly will make the TOGS change their minds, as the major asset of Terry's show was the input and the banter with the TOGS.
_________________
Geddon

You simply mustn't blame yourself -- the days were perfect
And so were exactly what I was born to spoil
For I am the Rider to the World's End
Bound across the cinder causeway
From the furnace to the quarry
Through the fields of oil
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Minx



Joined: 09 Dec 2006
Posts: 4088
Location: France/Spain/Peterborough/Tenerife

PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well there's hope for us yet. If the BBC wanted to save face they could abandon the Evans Breakfast slot to allow him to take over from Wossy on the chat show.

Apparently (Daily Wail), a BBC source says that "Evans is a serious contender (against Adrian Chiles) for this show, and his talent has never been in doubt. He seems to have matured and has settled brilliantly into TW's show on R2. He is seen as a more energetic candidate than Adrian. "


Rolling Eyes

That can only be good news.... I am not one for staying up late. Smile
_________________
Minx

To err is human, to forgive - canine.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Clive55



Joined: 08 Dec 2006
Posts: 1336

PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm smack bam in the middle of the BBC Radio 2 demographic- I'm 53 years old.
And i just love the Chris evans Breakfast show. A brilliant way to get me up in the morning & off to work
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
iwarburton



Joined: 08 Dec 2006
Posts: 2133
Location: Northumberland

PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At 61 I can recall Wogan taking over from John Dunn in the mornings in about 1972 and the change of ambience then was something of a shock. But Wogan went on to become a national institution. Give Chris Evans a chance--so far I'm happy with what I've heard.

Ian.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
aviddiva



Joined: 11 Oct 2008
Posts: 1135
Location: Wakefield, West Yorkshire

PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:34 pm    Post subject: What age group is the breakfast show aimed at? Reply with quote

I'm sick of that trailer with the child playing the clarinet. It makes me feel that Evans really wants to host a show like 'Child's Play' which Michael Aspel hosted.
_________________
We are loonies and we are proud!

- Campbell Bain in 'Takin' Over The Asylum'
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Helen May



Joined: 10 Dec 2006
Posts: 17886
Location: Cheshire

PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Me too Aviddiva. It's simply excruciating!

He has a fixation with having children on the radio. <yikes>. For me it's an instant turn off.

H
_________________
88 - 91 FM this is Radio 2 from the BBC!

I said it live on air in the studio with Jeremy Vine on 10/3/2005
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Jediworrier



Joined: 19 Mar 2007
Posts: 43

PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having heard some of the shouty naffness this morning I've come to the conclusion it must be for kids with hearing difficulties. What on earth posesses people to ring into crap like this let alone want to listen to it?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Shaky Fan



Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Posts: 628

PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Helen May wrote:
He has a fixation with having children on the radio. <yikes>.


Same as you have a fixation with attacking Chris..... Rolling Eyes
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Helen May



Joined: 10 Dec 2006
Posts: 17886
Location: Cheshire

PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No more than anyone else, his voice hurts my ears.

It seems that Drive and Breakfast have to centre around kids. Why oh why, I'm sick of kids! Evil or Very Mad

H
_________________
88 - 91 FM this is Radio 2 from the BBC!

I said it live on air in the studio with Jeremy Vine on 10/3/2005
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Minx



Joined: 09 Dec 2006
Posts: 4088
Location: France/Spain/Peterborough/Tenerife

PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

His voice hurts my ears too.

But..... and lord forbid I should find myself in the position of having anything positive to say about Chris Evans, I think he is modulating his tone. The other day I could hear something trashy and immature emanating from the radio and thought "that's so awful it must be Chris Evans, but no... it's someone else's voice". But it was him, pitched lower.

He must be taking notice of the criticism. Now if he could just stop speaking altogether............. Wink
_________________
Minx

To err is human, to forgive - canine.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Shaky Fan



Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Posts: 628

PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Helen May wrote:
No more than anyone else, his voice hurts my ears.

It seems that Drive and Breakfast have to centre around kids. Why oh why, I'm sick of kids! Evil or Very Mad

H


We get the picture! Look its not rocket science... if you don't like Chris Evans DON'T LISTEN to him. No-one's forcing you to. Find another station, listen to a CD .... but please stop posting the same thing here day in, day out....
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Helen May



Joined: 10 Dec 2006
Posts: 17886
Location: Cheshire

PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shaky

In case you hadn't noticed I don't listen to him BECAUSE I CAN'T STAND HIS VOICE IN ANY SHAPE OR FORM! It's always been that way even before he started on Drivetime and his voice hasn't changed, mores the pity.

Sadly it doesn't stop me from hearing the trailers that are almost every hour just now, so I do get to hear what he sounds like.

As for not posting, not a chance!

H
_________________
88 - 91 FM this is Radio 2 from the BBC!

I said it live on air in the studio with Jeremy Vine on 10/3/2005


Last edited by Helen May on Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:30 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
RockitRon



Joined: 07 Dec 2006
Posts: 7565

PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's funny - it's purely the luck of the draw as to whether you hear them. I've only heard the one for CE once - it's the ones for Paul O'Grady I can't stand and it's those that I seem to hear every time I have the radio on Smile
_________________
Ron
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Helen May



Joined: 10 Dec 2006
Posts: 17886
Location: Cheshire

PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You've been lucky then Ron! Smile

I've lost count of the number of times I've heard the one with the child and the clarinet. At least 3 times today and I wasn't listening that much!

H
_________________
88 - 91 FM this is Radio 2 from the BBC!

I said it live on air in the studio with Jeremy Vine on 10/3/2005
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Lord Evan Elpuss



Joined: 10 Dec 2006
Posts: 3340
Location: Cloud Cuckoo Land

PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're not even safe on TV. Unfortunately I've seen him slouched in that chair a few times before turning away and doing something more constructive for a few minutes. Why don't other, better presenters get their shows trailered on TV. When have you seen Janice Long, Alex Lester, Sarah Kennedy or Ken Bruce trails on the box.

Shaky Fan, please can you tell me what is rocket science.

_________________
Lord Evan Elpuss, Your ideal job is a Lumberjack.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
MadeinSurrey



Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Posts: 3130
Location: The Beautiful South

PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, those of us who can't stand Evans and have had our Morning's listening ruined are supposed to just accept it and say nothing are we Shaky Fan? Good job those who recognised the evil of Naziism didn't do the same - ok I know it's not even remotely comparable, but you get the jist.

When the BBC finally get the message, maybe they'll do something about it - some hope Crying or Very sad Evil or Very Mad
_________________
MiS
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
John W



Joined: 07 Dec 2006
Posts: 3360
Location: Warwickshire, UK

PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MadeinSurrey wrote:
Good job those who recognised the evil of Naziism didn't do the same


According to Godwin's law you might have lost the argument MIS Laughing
_________________
-
John W
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Shaky Fan



Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Posts: 628

PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MIS I didn't say that!

But there are a small number of people here who spend their time telling us that they hate Evans over and over again. And at some point in many unrelated discussions they turn the discussion round. This thread for example - the very first post begins "Trying to keep personal opinions aside can anyone tell me what sort of age group the show's aimed at?"

After Clives 1st comment Helen and yourself are straight in there...

Make your point and leave it there - there's no need to repeat it ad infinitum. As I said above - no-ones forcing you to listen. And if Chris Evans is the biggest problem in your life consider yourself bloody lucky....
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Helen May



Joined: 10 Dec 2006
Posts: 17886
Location: Cheshire

PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shaky.

I responded to Jedi in agreement the first time, not to Clive. The second time to Aviddiva and not about the same thing, not that it's any of your business who I reply to.

It would be a hell of a quiet board if nobody bothered to reply!

H
_________________
88 - 91 FM this is Radio 2 from the BBC!

I said it live on air in the studio with Jeremy Vine on 10/3/2005


Last edited by Helen May on Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:25 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Toggy



Joined: 18 Aug 2008
Posts: 1239

PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crikey this is an interesting thread, group hug anyone?

It would be a boring old world if we all liked the same things wouldn't it, some people like Chris others don't. Neither view is going to cause an Armageddon and there are far more important things to bother about than some bloke on the radio.

Maybe rediscover your CD collection or listen to local radio if you need travel news and so on. I can kind of see where shaky fan is coming from though as it does get rather repetitive. I hardly think the BBC are going to take any notice of a few people moaning on message boards anyway.

Just my forepeneth for what it's worth, no offence intended to anyone.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Clive55



Joined: 08 Dec 2006
Posts: 1336

PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toggy, you are the voice of reason! Cool
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Tweed



Joined: 06 Sep 2009
Posts: 6

PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lord Evan Elpuss wrote:
[size=14]Why don't other, better presenters get their shows trailered on TV. When have you seen Janice Long, Alex Lester, Sarah Kennedy or Ken Bruce trails on the box.



Because they don't need it?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Rob



Joined: 27 Feb 2007
Posts: 163
Location: Leicester

PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tweed wrote:
Lord Evan Elpuss wrote:
Why don't other, better presenters get their shows trailered on TV. When have you seen Janice Long, Alex Lester, Sarah Kennedy or Ken Bruce trails on the box.



Because they don't need it?


Because the breakfast show is very important to a station's listening profile. It's the point in the day when most people start a period listening to the radio; if you get them at the start of the day then there's a good chance that most won't bother retuning.

Terry appeared in more TV trails than any other presenter when hosting the breakfast programme for the same reason.

Rob
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Helen May



Joined: 10 Dec 2006
Posts: 17886
Location: Cheshire

PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's very true Rob.

I sometimes forget to switch on at all these days as I don't have R2 on my alarm or in the kitchen in the mornings. The same thing happened with Drive when Evans took over. I know I've missed so many good shows after 7 purely because I've forgotten to switch back on or gone to do something else and realised too late to listen. <doh>

The habit soon goes and I'm sure the BBC knows this.

H
_________________
88 - 91 FM this is Radio 2 from the BBC!

I said it live on air in the studio with Jeremy Vine on 10/3/2005
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
igs007



Joined: 18 Aug 2007
Posts: 190

PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rob wrote:
Tweed wrote:
Lord Evan Elpuss wrote:
Why don't other, better presenters get their shows trailered on TV. When have you seen Janice Long, Alex Lester, Sarah Kennedy or Ken Bruce trails on the box.



Because they don't need it?


Because the breakfast show is very important to a station's listening profile. It's the point in the day when most people start a period listening to the radio; if you get them at the start of the day then there's a good chance that most won't bother retuning.

Terry appeared in more TV trails than any other presenter when hosting the breakfast programme for the same reason.

Rob


I dispute that last point. For whatever reason (Wogan being more recognisable, R2 desperate to sell Evans to us whichever way possible, so on...), Evans appeared in more tv trails since he started compared to Wogan in that same 4 year period. Russell Brand ran Evans close, but we all know what happened to him!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
mymail9410



Joined: 22 Sep 2010
Posts: 17

PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 1:24 pm    Post subject: right station for chris? Reply with quote

NickSheffield wrote:
Jedi, you're right. Looking at criticisms on the blogs and Twitter (I do weird things for fun...), there's a lot of criticism from people of my generation who listened to Chris growing up and are now tuning in to R2 for the first time only to be disappointed by the music (one phrase that's stuck on Twitter is "blue rinse brigade"). As we know, most TOGS' criticism lies with the man - which does suggest Chris is doing breakfast on the wrong station. There's a desperate need for high quality adult radio with a wide range of music.... I get it now.


I totally agree, perhaps he wouldnt be paid as well on LBC or capital

and maybe his style isnt appropriate to the bbc digital childrens radio slot a graveyard slot if ever there was one!

quality music yes please!!!! not mindless twittle tattle quickly without any content
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ColinB
Guest





PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

igs007 wrote:
Russell Brand ran Evans close, but we all know what happened to him!


He went to Hollywood, didn't he? Smile
Back to top
gazmando



Joined: 15 Apr 2007
Posts: 560
Location: Huntingdon

PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Helen, when has Chris's breakfast show centred around kids?
There is one spot where a kid says what they did the day before, which lasts about 2 minutes.
That's hardly basing the whole show on kids is it really?
There is far more stuff based on babies and kids on Jeremy Vines show.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ruddlescat



Joined: 16 Sep 2010
Posts: 18010
Location: Near Chester

PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gaz considering the content of the show I find it hard to see how anyone over the age of 18 could fail to be bored senseless
You don't need to have individual features in the show aimed at kids because the whole thing is so childish and puerile its obvious as to what type of audience the show will appeal to
Mainly kids I would venture to suggest
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
kengeo



Joined: 21 Sep 2010
Posts: 278
Location: Gloucestershire

PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My niece and nephew like the show.










Mind you they are only 4 & 8 Laughing
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ruddlescat



Joined: 16 Sep 2010
Posts: 18010
Location: Near Chester

PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To use a famous Latin phrase

Quod errat demonstrandum!

Or for you uneducated oafs

Point Proven
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ruddlescat



Joined: 16 Sep 2010
Posts: 18010
Location: Near Chester

PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry for the phrase'Uneducated Oafs' substitute Chris Evans Listeners!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
gazmando



Joined: 15 Apr 2007
Posts: 560
Location: Huntingdon

PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well count me and my work colleagues as over 18 year olds who enjoy the show.
I honestly can't believe how you lot can say Chris's show is aimed at kids when just because you don't like it, you come across to me as a self congratulatory little clique.
"Oh my niece and nephew like it, oh yes hahaha that must make it point proven, hohoho."
"Oh I must go out of my way now to retune my radio at 6.30 now", wow!!! is it really really that hard to tune your radio?.
"Substitute, uneducated oafs for Chris Evans listeners", please grow up!
Loads of the comments on here are far more puerile than anything you'll find on Chris's show, and I'm speaking as someone who actually listens to all of the daytime shows which gives me more of a right to comment on them don't you think?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ruddlescat



Joined: 16 Sep 2010
Posts: 18010
Location: Near Chester

PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In a democracy everyone has a right to express an opinion just as every adult has a right to vote in elections
However if you don't like the outcome as expressed by majority opinion you either accept it or emigrate
Nobody forces anyone to use this forum and if they don't like the general comments here there are many other fora where opinion may be different
As they say 'If you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen'
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    R2OK! Forum Index -> Shows and Music on Radio 2 All times are GMT
Goto page 1, 2  Next
Page 1 of 2

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group. Hosted by phpBB.BizHat.com