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John W

Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 3367 Location: Warwickshire, UK
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 1:31 pm Post subject: CD burning and video edit software |
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After a PC crash I recently had the hard disk of my computer (built 2005) replaced. Because of the age of the other components my PC mate installed Windows XP as the operating system.
I didn't lose much data and replaced/ re-installed most of the programs that I use...
.... except the CD burning software. Can't remember what version it was I had but I'd used a version of Nero for CD burning on the PC.
So I went on to ebay to look for a version of Nero that would suit my 2005 hardware, and I bought Nero 9 (2008).
Hmm after paying for it I THEN started looking at reviews etc and seems there's a lot of people very unhappy with Nero and their version 9.
If their computer is not powerful enough the loading/installing often fails, if it does complete it takes something like 45mins to install and their PC nevers runs well again.
So I might as well forget the Nero 9 that I bought, just not worth the risk.
Nero 9 is such a huge program, I really don't need anything like that, just a straight forward CD burning software that will suit my 5 year-old PC.
If I can get something that will allow me to edit video or make DVD from my digital camera video clips then that would be nice too.
Any suggestions?
Roxio seems to be very popular/reliable. I see new/unopened packs of Roxio Creator 6 Platinum, for just £5 on ebay, that version might suit my PC??
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The Great Gildersleeve
Joined: 17 Sep 2010 Posts: 249 Location: North East England
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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John have a look at Ashampoo Burning Studio?
I think you can buy it online from their own site(possibly as a download?)
But it may also be available to buy from a retailer...
I was given a free version with a magazine and that has been great so the new version could be even better... |
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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For audio, on my PC, I use Roxio and it seems OK. I do most audio-video related work on my Mac simply because that's the best place to do it but Roxio's pretty good.
As for video editing on PC, you're pretty much up my street in that I not only review them for PC magazines but I also produce training materials for users of them. Due to this, I get sent all mainstream video editing and authoring apps of any worth, and the best consumer application in my opinion is Adobe Premiere Elements, which is currently at version 8, but who knows what's around the corner?
Also look at MAGIX apps and also Corel VideoStudio as well. They do a good job, but I still regard the Adobe application above the others. It's much more intuitive and supports on all mainstream video camcorder formats. It also enables you to complete the full workflow from initial import to the final authoring of discs as well as upload to YouTube, etc.
Of course, the important question to ask is: what format camcorder do you have? That will influence the software you buy.
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SantaFefan

Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 11258 Location: top of the cliffs in Norfolk
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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I can't help but think back to the days of 8mm film... all you needed was that little metal film clamp, a razor blade and some film cement.. so easy.
Of course if you had cash to spare, the metal clamp was replaced by a film editor with a little screen so you could see exactly where to make the splice..  _________________ Johnnie Walker read out my message on Pirate Radio! 13/8/07
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ColinB Guest
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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SantaFefan wrote: | I can't help but think back to the days of 8mm film... all you needed was that little metal film clamp, a razor blade and some film cement.. so easy. |
The first film I shot was Standard-8 and then, as a student, Super-8 and also 16mm.
Film was easy to assemble if you were using a simple tape-splice on a block, but much more complex if you A-B roll cutting on a Steinbeck!
In the 80s, I used to work in Soho-based video editing suites that cost us £120.00 per hour to hire (with editor) and for which the capital cost would be been around £500,000. Today I can almost everything I could do there on my Apple Mac or Windows PC with a piece of software that costs less than £100!!!
It's much, much easier editing video on a PC than ever it was in "ye good olde days" and I wouldn't go back in time at all!  |
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SantaFefan

Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 11258 Location: top of the cliffs in Norfolk
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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of course...
but, wasn't it exciting to receive those little 3 minute reels in the yellow bags from Kodak after three weeks??
I've still got all ours although I'd guess they are "crazing" over a lot now.
I never did buy one of those Film to tape converters..
The very first Ford Corsair I saw is on one.. I'd guess that would be 1964. _________________ Johnnie Walker read out my message on Pirate Radio! 13/8/07
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John W

Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 3367 Location: Warwickshire, UK
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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ColinB wrote: |
For audio, on my PC, I use Roxio and it seems OK.
As for video editing on PC .... the important question to ask is: what format camcorder do you have? That will influence the software you buy.
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Thanks Colin.
Roxio seems a safe bet for Audio and data I expect then, Creator 6 should be OK for my oldish PC.
Video. As I said, I only have my digital camera for video, it's a Kodak M753 and the files become Quicktime when saved on PC. _________________ -
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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John W wrote: | Thanks Colin.
Roxio seems a safe bet for Audio and data I expect then, Creator 6 should be OK for my oldish PC. |
I'm sure it will. Although I have all manner of expensive professional sound capture, editing and authoring programs on my Mac, I still use Roxio Toast - it's the Mac equivalent of Creator - and I really like it.
John W wrote: | Video. As I said, I only have my digital camera for video, it's a Kodak M753 and the files become Quicktime when saved on PC. |
Pretty much anything will edit those files. They'll probably be in a format called MPEG-4. You may even have an app that was bundled with the camera, but Adobe is much better. That said, you may find it to be expensive overkill.
If you need more advice let me know. I have lots of stuff knocking around here that may be in need of a new home!
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TheWalkingDude
Joined: 15 Sep 2010 Posts: 33
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Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:08 am Post subject: |
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I can't help with video but I have burned a lot of music to CD in my time and never used anything but Windows Media Player. Maybe I'm just an old fogey and a penny pincher but I can't imagine a situation where I'd want to buy software for anything, photoshop excepted. |
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John W

Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 3367 Location: Warwickshire, UK
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Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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I did look at that when I realised I hadn't saved the old program, but I found that when I inserted a blank CD the Media Player was asking me to select playlists etc. So I'd have to do all that with Media Player every time I wanted to burn music.
With proper software you can much more quickly explore your PC and find a folder(s) where the tracks you want are located. I do a lot of audio restoration from gramophone records and have lots of different folders with restored music tracks etc.
I also do bigger backups of music files on DVDs (as back for my backup hard drive) and also put sets of photos on CD for family and for customers so a proper burn program is what I like.
I've ordered Roxio Creator 6 through ebay for about 7 quid, an unopened original box/pack so hopefully has it's keycode and licence etc.
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