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Gnasty Gnome
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you come across to me as a self congratulatory little clique.
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It's listening to "self-congratulatory little cliques" in the form of Evans and Steve Wright and their acolytes, which has put me off listening to a good deal of R2's daytime output. |
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gazmando
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| Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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When exactly did I say you didn't have a right to express an opinion then Ruddlescat I just said I personally have a right as I actually listen to the shows.
Maybe then,if you don't like Chris's show you should just accept it or emigrate (excuse me while I yawn).
I can stand the heat, and I'm happy to stay in the kitchen, but as you say I also have the right to express the opinion that a lot of the comments are childish and a lot of the time are downright ridiculous conspiracy theories. |
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ruddlescat
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| Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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Gaz if I listened to the show and then criticised it to high heaven I would get accused of being a hypocrite
I have heard the show and feel fully qualified to express an opinion
The fact is that when Wogan left the BBC had the chance to replace him with a presenter who would be acceptable to the whole Radio 2 audience including the old Togs, people like you who like Chris Evans and the likes of me who don't like Wogan or Evans and would have preferred probably Johnnie Walker or perhaps a younger equivalent like Simon Mayo
It was a great opportunity to unite the potential audience but instead because of its apparent obsession with all things Evans the BBC chose to bring in a presenter who had a controversial style and who is disliked by a very large slice of the potential breakfast audience which in my mind is a recipe for disaster
I have no doubt there are some people who may like the current format of show but if the BBC chooses to ignore the wishes of a very major proportion of its audience it is hardly surprising that it gets criticised on this forum and elsewhere
You just don't seem to grasp that thousands of people dislike his style intensely |
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ColinB
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| Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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| gazmando wrote: | | "Oh I must go out of my way now to retune my radio at 6.30 now", wow!!! is it really really that hard to tune your radio?. |
Of course it isn't! What is a problem, though, is finding music-based national radio stations whose breakfast time output isn't now formatted to appeal to unthinking idiots. Chris Evans' "show" is a prime example of such lowest-common-denominator programming. |
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kengeo
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| Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | "Oh my niece and nephew like it, oh yes hahaha that must make it point proven, hohoho." |
It would be funny if it wasn't true, its a big hit on the school run, they do a great rendition of "How do you like your eggs......." |
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ruddlescat
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| Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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I know how I like my eggs
Very hard boiled and propelled at very high speed in the direction of a certain breakfast presenter! |
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Helen May
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| Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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| gazmando wrote: | Helen, when has Chris's breakfast show centred around kids?
There is one spot where a kid says what they did the day before, which lasts about 2 minutes.
That's hardly basing the whole show on kids is it really?
There is far more stuff based on babies and kids on Jeremy Vines show. |
As I my comment was made in January and it's now October I can't remember exactly what made me say it, but having re-read the thread it was based on the little bits I heard and the trail which I mentioned. I don't listen apart from having to hear the trails during other programmes that I do listen to.
When he did Drivetime he involved children far more than his predecessors, again I'm not in favour of it.
As for JV talking about them okay, but he doesn't have them phoning up and taking part everyday!
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ColinB
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| Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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| ruddlescat wrote: | I know how I like my eggs
Very hard boiled and propelled at very high speed in the direction of a certain breakfast presenter! |
It would be more fun if the egg were raw!  |
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childprufe
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| Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 4:14 am Post subject: |
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The suggestion that listeners who don't like Chris Evans' show should re-tune to another station belongs in the realms of the radio 2 messageboard trolls. The argument has always been that there are many breakfast shows in the same style as Evans', but Terry Wogan was unique.
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Jill Hickman
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| Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 8:05 am Post subject: |
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| childprufe wrote: | | The suggestion that listeners who don't like Chris Evans' show should re-tune to another station belongs in the realms of the radio 2 messageboard trolls. The argument has always been that there are many breakfast shows in the same style as Evans', but Terry Wogan was unique. |
Childprufe reading this thread made me feel more and more angry, as like you say, this smacks so much of the old MB with the record stuck at "retune to another station". In my case there is seriously no other station as I only have limited FM and drive to work - hence same drivel. Ruddlescat makes a good point about alternatives. Please don't let the 'plank of wood on your shoulder' Evans adorers start insulting the intelligent people that it has been a pleasure to communicate with on this board. This is a breath of fresh air to log into and debate like adults, unlike the old board.
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RockitRon
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| Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 8:22 am Post subject: |
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Childprufe reading this thread made me feel more and more angry, as like you say, this smacks so much of the old MB with the record stuck at "retune to another station".
This is a breath of fresh air to log into and debate like adults, unlike the old board.
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Jill, because a lot of "the old MB" have retuned here you are bound to get a lot of the old opinions expressed. The only difference is that, here, the messages won't be suppressed, unless they take on the nature of spam.
Personally, I think it all sounds more and more like a children's playground. I expressed the opinion long ago that all the whingeing was overdone, because there may come a time when it is really justified, and the impact of any complaints will be diminished by the fact that "you're always complaining". For that reason, I mostly keep away from these type of threads.
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undiscovered
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| Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 8:36 am Post subject: |
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I don't listen to the show any more, I had a club night of old 90's indie stuff to sort out for a while so started listening to CD's in my car a lot more.
My only argument against the current show and to be fair a little of Wogan's near the end (I only started listening to R2 because of my love of Wogan) there is too much chatter. The reason R1's breakfast host Chris Moyles doesn't feature on my radio is because in half hours travel you may not get one song played (good or bad). R2 show is similar to that and as I say Wogan was a bit like that later on too.
The Breakfast Show has always been THE show on radio no matter what the station and even Wogan would have polarised the audience not many people under 40 are big fans. If /When R2 gets it's overhaul Ce will be seen as too close to the old guard and the one of the first to go.
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ColinB
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| Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:50 am Post subject: |
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| undiscovered wrote: | | If /When R2 gets it's overhaul Ce will be seen as too close to the old guard and the one of the first to go. |
... or when it's realised that he has reached saturation point with the Radio 2 and BBC TV audiences. |
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gazmando
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| Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Childprufe, I wasn't telling anybody to retune their radio.
When I said "accept it or emigrate" I was copying word for word what Ruddlescat said to me if I didn't agree with the majority view on this board.
That was a ridiculous comment and I used it in the same way to show how ridiculous it was.
And Jill, it's lovely having intelligent conversations when people are agreeing with what you say, but it's not intelligent at all aiming personal insults against DJs and people who enjoy their shows. (I don't mean you personally)
Read RockitRons posts to hear a voice of reason. |
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ruddlescat
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| Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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Gaz when I said 'accept it or emigrate' I was obviously talking about the situation where someone did not accept the outcome of an election
Obviously nobody is going to emigrate just because they are in a minority on a forum like this that would be silly
However the principle is the same
In a democracy you have to live with the majority view like it or not and you shouldn't complain simply because most people do not agree with you
Tolerance is what is required in a civilised society- up to a point anyway |
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ColinB
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| Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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| ruddlescat wrote: | | Obviously nobody is going to emigrate just because they are in a minority on a forum like this that would be silly |
If Gaz told me to emigrate to somewhere nice and warm and offered to pay the fare in exchange for not posting here, I think I'd take him up on the offer! |
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gazmando
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| Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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Tempting Colin, tempting (just kidding).
If I had the money I'd buy a nice Caribbean island and you could all come and live there.
I'd even have Chris Evans there as a resident DJ just to make you all even happier!!!!! |
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nod
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as long as he doesn't start BEFORE midday  |
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gazmando
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| Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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Ruddles, I'm not complaining at all that the majority of posters on here disagree at all, it could be me against the world and I'd stand up for my view not complain about yours.
All I complain about is the hostility shown towards Chris personally and towards anyone who listens to him which I think is a fair stance on my part. |
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gazmando
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| Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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Come on Nod, with all that beautiful scenery and warmth you should be up at the crack of dawn.
Anyway his studio is gonna be right next door to your hammock so there lol |
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ruddlescat
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| Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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Gaz I promise you I don't bear any hostility or malice towards anyone on this forum but I will not be put off expressing genuinely held views just because the odd person here and there might not like them
If you go on to a thread about Chris Evans the chances are you will almost certainly come across views which may annoy you so if you don't like that the simple answer is not to go on to that particular thread in the first place
There are many other threads on the forum totally unrelated to Mr Evans and the chances are there will be things there on which you will agree with people
I post on lots of other far less controversial subjects so please don't think I have some hangup about Mr Evans
Yes I do dislike him intensely but I don't let it take over my whole life!
Especially as I now have the delightful Lynn Parsons to listen to at breakfast |
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John W
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| Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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I'd like to think some folks here have just about said all they need to say about Chris Evans. Except for any new gimmicks or silly stuff on his show I don't see the need to go on and on about the same things again and again.
Remember the forum rules start with:
1. No thread should result in personal insults, either regarding presenters or fellow posters.
2. Continual spamming of opinions, especially opinions moaning about a particular presenter or show, or genres of music that the poster does not listen to, will not be tolerated. This Forum is not aimed at descending into the public denigration of respected broadcasters .......
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nod
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| Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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| gazmando wrote: | Come on Nod, with all that beautiful scenery and warmth you should be up at the crack of dawn.
Anyway his studio is gonna be right next door to your hammock so there lol |
I would be up and about at the crack of dawn but I don't want the morning peace spoilt by an overexcited DJ, I dont mind him in the afternoon or doing drivetime (maybe we won't need drivetime on this small island ? )
Maybe TW and Sk could retire there as well and do the morning shows ?, that would be great |
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ColinB
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| Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Actually, if I were spending the rest of my days on a desert island I don't think I'd need a morning DJ at all. That's that sorted then! |
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