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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:35 pm    Post subject: Hillary Clinton runs for President Reply with quote

Today I am announcing that I will form an exploratory committee to run for president.

And I want you to join me not just for the campaign but for a conversation about the future of our country -- about the bold but practical changes we need to overcome six years of Bush administration failures.

I am going to take this conversation directly to the people of America, and I'm starting by inviting all of you to join me in a series of web chats over the next few days.

The stakes will be high when America chooses a new president in 2008.

As a senator, I will spend two years doing everything in my power to limit the damage George W. Bush can do. But only a new president will be able to undo Bush's mistakes and restore our hope and optimism.

Only a new president can renew the promise of America -- the idea that if you work hard you can count on the health care, education, and retirement security that you need to raise your family. These are the basic values of America that are under attack from this administration every day.

And only a new president can regain America's position as a respected leader in the world.

I believe that change is coming November 4, 2008. And I am forming my exploratory committee because I believe that together we can bring the leadership that this country needs. I'm going to start this campaign with a national conversation about how we can work to get our country back on track.

This is a big election with some very big questions. How do we bring the war in Iraq to the right end? How can we make sure every American has access to adequate health care? How will we ensure our children inherit a clean environment and energy independence? How can we reduce the deficits that threaten Social Security and Medicare?

No matter where you live, no matter what your political views, I want you to be a part of this important conversation right at the start. So to begin, I'm going to spend the next several days answering your questions in a series of live video web discussions. Starting Monday, January 22, at 7 p.m. EST for three nights in a row, I'll sit down to answer your questions about how we can work together for a better future. And you can participate live at my website. Sign up to join the conversation here.

I grew up in a middle-class family in the middle of America, where I learned that we could overcome every obstacle we face if we work together and stay true to our values.

I have worked on issues critical to our country almost all my life. I've fought for children for more than 30 years. In Arkansas, I pushed for education reform. As First Lady, I helped to expand health care coverage to millions of children and to pass legislation that dramatically increased adoptions. I also traveled to China to affirm that women's rights are human rights.

And in the Senate, I have worked across party lines to get billions more for children's health care, to stop the president's plan to privatize Social Security, and to make sure the victims and heroes of 9/11 and our men and women in uniform receive the fair treatment they deserve. In 2006, I led the successful fight to make Plan B contraception available to women without a prescription.

I have spent a lifetime opening opportunities for tens of millions who are working hard to raise a family: new immigrants, families living in poverty, people who have no health care or face an uncertain retirement.

The promise of America is that all of us will have access to opportunity, and I want to run a 2008 campaign that renews that promise, a campaign built on a lifetime record of results.

I have never been afraid to stand up for what I believe in or to face down the Republican machine. After nearly $70 million spent against my campaigns in New York and two landslide wins, I can say I know how Washington Republicans think, how they operate, and how to beat them.

I need you to be a part of this campaign, and I hope you'll start by joining me in this national conversation.

As we campaign to win the White House, we will make history and remake our future. We can only break barriers if we dare to confront them, and if we have the determined and committed support of others.

This campaign is our moment, our chance to stand up for the principles and values that we cherish; to bring new ideas, energy, and leadership to a uniquely challenging time. It's our chance to say "we can" and "we will."

Let's go to work. America's future is calling us.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And she's got about as much clout in US politics than anyone. I really couldn't see Nancy Pelosi (Speaker of the house) as Pres, some say she' ll go for it as she's hot more power than Bush at moment.

This is great, I think her husband was a good President, made a few errors in judgement but he was instrumental in achieving peace in NI - others took up the baton, of course.

I think the American people are ready for a female President, good on her.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This is great, I think her husband was a good President, made a few errors in judgement but he was instrumental in achieving peace in NI - others took up the baton, of course.

I think the American people are ready for a female President, good on her.



I can't wait until the day bush leaves office.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark,

Agree, Khioto may get back on track when he does, I remember hearing he was the first President that couldn't do the 'walkto the whitehouse'. He got boo'd so much vhe had to go in the car.

Plus, he's made America the most hated country in the world (not by me though).
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AndyAndy2 wrote:
Mark,

Agree, Khioto may get back on track when he does, I remember hearing he was the first President that couldn't do the 'walkto the whitehouse'. He got boo'd so much vhe had to go in the car.

Plus, he's made America the most hated country in the world (not by me though).


I think big business in the US will do practically anything to wreck the Kyoto treaty whilst putting pressure on developing countries to limit their CO2 output, although they're perfectly happy to let Shrub do their work for them at the moment until someone more competent comes along at least.

I could see HC getting the job simply as a protest against the Republican Party for the mess that Shrub and Co have got the country into re trying to democratise Iraq and Afghanistan - the latter being virtually impossible - we've tried twice and failed before this current adventure, whilst the Russians had their own Vietnam there in the 80s. As for Iraq, it's just a millstone around a lame duck president's neck. There'll also be a backlash in the south re the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina and the perception of the speed (or lack of it) that the Bush administration seemingly put into sorting out the mess afterwards.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well said, Cherskiy (and thanks for correcting the Kyouto spelling),

I do wonder how the next president will handle Iraq though, If it's a complete pull out then that could be seen as leaving them in their hour of need.

I think this issue will dominate the election - it has too, a president taking power whilst on a war footing will get practically nothing else done.

This is rather a spooky mirror of what the West Wing did in the final series. if only America could get a president like the fictional Bartlett or Santos.

Maybe they will with H. Clinton.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just can't understand how Thatcher was removed as PM in the UK, and Bush couldn't of been removed early as president. Why does it work different in the US?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Money corrupts. Money = Oil = Power.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mark occomore wrote:
I just can't understand how Thatcher was removed as PM in the UK, and Bush couldn't of been removed early as president. Why does it work different in the US?


It's easier in HMG because no-confidence motions can be passed (usually ending with the resignation of the Government or PM) or a sitting PM can actually be challenged internally by the party of office. In the US, a President basically sits for a five year term (up to a maximum of two terms after the 22nd Amendment was passed) and they stay until that period of office is over, or they die, resign, are not nominated or re-elected for the second term or are impeached. I think that covers it, but there may be other ways to unseat a President.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

She wont win. Americans dont want a Bush Clinton Bush Clinton rotating presidency. If she does win Jeb Bush can take over in 8 years time. Laughing

Kyoto's dead anyway. Clinton winning or losing doesnt change that. Congress (either Democrat or Republican) wont approve it. Under the US Consititution treaties need to be approved by congress.

I am skeptical on climate change anyway. Sure the planet is heating up compated to 100 years ago but it has been much warmer in the past. We are due a mini Ice age in the climate cycle soon anyway so coincidentally we may be doing the right thing by polluting, if it delays or prevents an Ice Age which would be 1m times more catastrophic.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gfloyd wrote:
I am skeptical on climate change anyway. Sure the planet is heating up compated to 100 years ago but it has been much warmer in the past. We are due a mini Ice age in the climate cycle soon anyway so coincidentally we may be doing the right thing by polluting, if it delays or prevents an Ice Age which would be 1m times more catastrophic.


I'm still not convinced totally by the arguments for global warming yet either. As gfloyd says, recent thinking suggested a mini Ice Age shortly - I was reading about such things up until about ten years ago. If the Gulf Stream shuts itself off, we will get one. For all I know, all this could be a prelude to a shift in the magnetic poles - they apparently 'swap over' every so often (the last time being about 780,000 years ago).
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 9:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Hillary Clinton runs for President Reply with quote

mark occomore wrote:
Today I am announcing that I will form an exploratory committee to run for president.


But do you have the support of the Democrats, Mark - and can you afford the campaign costs?

I'd stick to posting your silly re-gurgitated news stories on numerous web forums if I were you!

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now if it was Monica Lewinsky runs for President i could understand.
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