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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 7:55 pm    Post subject: Chris Evans Listeners 10% Up Than Wogan. Reply with quote

According to the times online Chris Evans as attracted 9 million listeners.

Cool So if you don't listen some do. Well 10% more than Wogan.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article7120630.ece
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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, but don't forget the Evans show is 30 minutes longer than Wogans used to be. Personally I will never believe such statistics, I think its all a continuing hype on the BBC's part, Chris Evans must not be allowed to fail! Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"according to RAJAR figured released on Thursday" - If its RAJAR, the BBC don't have that much to do with it.

However...

They're not meant to be reporting any RAJARs until they are officially released this Thursday.... (not even the RAJAR website itself shows them).

If they're reporting them prematurely, then how have they got hold of them? I'm not sure, but I didn't think RAJARs were sent to the media until the day before they're due for release.
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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The people who hate Chris Evans were only ever going to believe the figures if they went spiralling down.
There was a post before, saying Ken Bruces figures will go down because Chris figures were going to plummet.
Loads of people (well the same old suspects) all agreed amongst themselves that this would be the case, wonder what they're gonna say now?
Are Kens figures going to go up 10%?
Also, please spare me the extra half an hour routine too, just clutching at straws I think.
If Chris had a 2 hour show and his figures went down, I wonder if his detractors would be saying, " Well they only went down because his show is half an hour shorter".
Somehow I really don't think so.
To sum up, it's either, agree with them if they went down, or if they went up quibble over little points or say you've never believed that rubbish RAJAR nonsense anyway.


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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Every anti Chris Evans posts show that his figures were going to be spinning out of control - and there would have been a giant slump have been proven wrong. I think we have heard now that those people don't listen or watch him. It does show he does have a good following.
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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What it shows, Mark (if this is true), is that there are a great many people with very low standards, who like being shouted at and enjoy glorified phone-ins.

Ken Bruce knows how to do a radio show, Evans doesn't.
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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fred wrote:
If they're reporting them prematurely, then how have they got hold of them? I'm not sure, but I didn't think RAJARs were sent to the media until the day before they're due for release.

I think the broadcasters get the figures a week in advance so they can prepare press releases and sometimes even jingles.

If true, I'm expecting all figures to go up. Perhaps in a recession, more people are listening to the radio (just as slightly more are watching TV).
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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gazmando wrote:
The people who hate Chris Evans were only ever going to believe the figures if they went spiralling down.


What, everybody? I can't stand the irritating and self-promoting presenter that is Evans but I don't doubt the figures (why should I and who cares? I'm just a listener so they're irrelevant to me).

My own view is that Evans generates breakfast radio that is sub-standard and low-quality in my estimation, and that's all there is to it. I'm just proud to say that I don't intentionally listen to his appalling "show" and I never will do.

In fact, I've actually been listening to Chris Moyles over on Wonderful Radio One a lot lately - only for 30 minutes or so whilst in the car, admittedly. Unlike Evans, he's actually a much better broadcaster who loves his music (unlike Evans, who loves only the sound of his own voice) and who has a rather likeable self-depracating manner about him (unlike Evans who probably doesn't even know what "self-depracating" means).

No. I'm happy to steer clear of Radio 2 at breakfast and I really don't care what the ratings tell us all.

Perhaps it tells us that there are lots of people who are very easily pleased?
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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly what are you are trying to imply by saying there are lots of people who are easily pleased, then Colin?
The slights that you aim at Chris Evans could just as easily be aimed at Chris Moyles, couldn't they?
Just like the way you say that the team who are on Simon Mayos show are there to enhance the show, but the team who are on with Chris Evans are only there as props to boost his ego.
That is your opinion but you state things as if they are fact.
Everyone finds things that back up their own prejudices but that does not make them fact.
Going back to the original point, I have done a RAJAR survey but don't really take much notice of them as they are not really accurate.
Can you, hand on your heart say though, that if they had shown a slump there wouldn't have been loads of posts saying "We told you so"?
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Exactly what are you are trying to imply by saying there are lots of people who are easily pleased, then Colin?


By virtue of the fact that I think his style of presentation is low standard, so it follows that if people are happy to listen then they must be easily pleased. Lots of people are happy to eat the produce of MacDonalds whereas I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole. They're easily pleased; I'm more discerning.

gazmando wrote:
The slights that you aim at Chris Evans could just as easily be aimed at Chris Moyles, couldn't they?


Chris Moyles has entirely different character traits, and the two individuals are like chalk and cheese. Given the opportunity to be locked in a room with either of them for a day, I'd choose Moyles withut hesitation - for the sake of my sanity.

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Just like the way you say that the team who are on Simon Mayos show are there to enhance the show, but the team who are on with Chris Evans are only there as props to boost his ego.


Yes agreed. Couldn't have put it better myself!

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That is your opinion but you state things as if they are fact.


No I'm not. I'm always careful to state my opinions. Others are at liberaty to think and act as they please. If people are happy to put up with Evans first thing in the morning then I'm very happy for them. Honest.

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Everyone finds things that back up their own prejudices but that does not make them fact.


My utterances are merely my opinions, and that's a fact.

gazmando wrote:
Going back to the original point, I have done a RAJAR survey but don't really take much notice of them as they are not really accurate.

Can you, hand on your heart say though, that if they had shown a slump there wouldn't have been loads of posts saying "We told you so"?


If the polls had shown a slump I'd be very happy because it would vindicate the position of myself and many others, but since they don't (yet) I won't lose sleep over it. Let 'em eat cake! Smile
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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's very easy to sneer at other people isn't it Colin?
I think Chris Moyles presentation is of a low standard, so it follows that if YOU are happy to listen then you must be easily pleased.
See what I mean, you aren't quite as discerning as you think looking at it from my point of view.
Anyone can take that attitude and think they are that bit better than others if they don't take the same opinion as themselves.
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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gazmando wrote:
It's very easy to sneer at other people isn't it Colin?


How can I be sneering when I wrote that people can listen to whatever they like and it doesn't bother me? (My "cake" reference was just that - a joke, by the way).

gazmando wrote:
I think Chris Moyles presentation is of a low standard, so it follows that if YOU are happy to listen then you must be easily pleased.


That's fine. I'm happy for you to think that. My summation is that Moyles does at least have a semblance of humility in addition to some measure of self-deprecation; he's not afraid to poke fun at himself (which he does all the time) and he does at least have a genuine love of the music he plays. I don't detect any such qualities in Evans, who seems to be obsessed with his own self and nothing else.

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See what I mean, you aren't quite as discerning as you think looking at it from my point of view.


I like what I like and others like what they like. As I said above, if Evans is doing well in the ratings then good luck to him. Doesn't mean I'll be pursuaded to listen to him though because I think his breakfast show is appalling.

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Anyone can take that attitude and think they are that bit better than others if they don't take the same opinion as themselves.


I'm sure really sure what you're getting at there, but I can't say I'm bothered. I can only repeat my previous paragraph.

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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The figures are being sent to the media and other subscribers today prior to release tomorrow and the embargo is to be lifted at midnight tonight, rather than the usual time of 7am - http://radiotoday.co.uk/news.php?extend.5905.

To be honest I don't care what Evans' stats are. I will continue to listen to him every now and then, and I will continue to listen to 6 Music every now and then. He may not be my favourite R2 presenter but he's not unlistenable.

I would however be very surprised if they go up, because it goes against all the usual trends you get on any radio station after a change of presenter; usually statistics go down slightly and then recover later in the year.
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Doesn't matter what his listening figures are, I won't be listening to him. I honestly don't know anyone who does and they scan right across the age bracket.

The radio stays firmly off until 0931.

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Helen May wrote:
Doesn't matter what his listening figures are, I won't be listening to him. I honestly don't know anyone who does and they scan right across the age bracket.


Interestingly, Helen, I don't know a single person who listens either. I know several people who listened to Wake Up To Wogan either regularly or occasionally.

Very odd.
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well that's the thing with these polls isn't it. If we were to trust them Nick Clegg would be in number 10 right now.......... sorry...did you nudge me? He's what? .... Really?! You're kidding....... news flash... apparently he is in number 10!!!...Well, go to the foot of our stairs. Oh I see, only as Deputy PM... Prescott's old Job..Toilets and Drains. Oh well, there's always a catch...... maybe Chris' numbers are like a Clegg Surge... looks good until you actually ask everyone.
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see CE is shouting that "I got it right, right from day one".

Not for me, and not for anyone else I know. But there you go. Chris gets it right from day one, and Dermot gets a Sony award for his show. Just goes to show that R2 isn't my station of choice anymore. Rolling Eyes

Nice to see the customary modesty of the aforesaid. I do love a bit of self deprecation. Laughing
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Minx wrote:
Nice to see the customary modesty of the aforesaid. I do love a bit of self deprecation. Laughing


Me too. It's a sad state of affairs, isn't it.

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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris Moyles was on Something For The Weekend on Sunday and said he doesn't pick any of the music on his show.
I honestly can't believe that someone who has a genuine love of music would stand for that somehow.
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gazmando wrote:
Chris Moyles was on Something For The Weekend on Sunday and said he doesn't pick any of the music on his show.
I honestly can't believe that someone who has a genuine love of music would stand for that somehow.


This is the case at most radio stations, except perhaps the very small commercial ones and community radio/RSLs.

I seem to remember someone on one of the BBC stations (can't remember if it was R2 or not), saying that in a conversation to a friend working in commercial radio, they complained that in their 3 hour show they could only pick 3 tracks an hour, and in reply the commercial one said that (s)he's lucky to be allowed to choose 3 in a day!

I think the reason behind it is so that you don't end up with presenters who only play the stuff they like, but mix the tracks up a bit; so that you have a bit of variety.
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gazmando wrote:
Chris Moyles was on Something For The Weekend on Sunday and said he doesn't pick any of the music on his show.
I honestly can't believe that someone who has a genuine love of music would stand for that somehow.


But he has also said several times (in various media) that he and his production team, with whom he has now worked for 10 years, have a kind of rapport that means that he can trust them with selecting the music running order in such a way that he can walk into the studio first thing and simply get on with it. Sometimes they'll choose stuff he doesn't like just to wind him up. It's all a question of trust between presenter and producer/team, and Moyles' success on R1 Breakfast proves that such trust exists.

I have a friend (who now presents a graveyard-shift show on BBC London) who knows Moyles very well and he has told me how passionate Moyles is about the music he plays in addition to his always being open to new material from unknown acts.

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I seem to remember someone on one of the BBC stations (can't remember if it was R2 or not), saying that in a conversation to a friend working in commercial radio, they complained that in their 3 hour show they could only pick 3 tracks an hour, and in reply the commercial one said that (s)he's lucky to be allowed to choose 3 in a day!


The reason for that is largely because "local" radio stations like Heart are really just local skins on a national brand. A bit like MacDonalds for radio - they're all franchises that have to conform to a very tightly-specified format.

Most of the running order for all Heart stations is programmed centrally and are totally out of presenters' hands except in slots - such as breakfast- where they have a partial opt-out from the central running order.

In my opinion, that's partly why local commercial radio in the UK is so bad!
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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't expect that, I bet you lot are gutted Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gutted no - depressed yes.
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sheltster wrote:
Didn't expect that, I bet you lot are gutted Very Happy


As you'll have seen from the earlier posts, I'm not gutted - and nor am I in the least bit surprised.

I guess the MacDonalds analogy is a fair one; I wouldn't touch the stuff with a bargepole and it can't be considered much good for you but hey, lots of people give MacDonalds their money in exchange for their mass fodder so who am I to comment?

Radio 2 listeners at breakfast are happy with Evans at that time. Good luck to them!

Gutted? Not me. I find it quite amusing.
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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm surprised at the Evans figures. Something somehow is skewing RAJAR figures which favours certain shows, maybe geographical, dunno Razz

Oh I know, he has 12 and a half hours a week !

But, well done Evans for clearly giving many listeners what they want.

Still leaves many unhappy listeners who can't bear to listen to him, but of course there were many R2 listeners like me who couldn't bear to listen to Wogan!

I'll just accept that it's the turn of another set of listeners to 'own' the breakfast slot, and I'll stick with Rob Cowans on R3.

I still think Evans belongs on Radio 1, doesn't matter how old he is physically, his mind is still that of a kid and Radio 1 is for kids.

The question is, how long do some of us have to wait before we get a mature breakfast show on R2 at 8.00am?


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No I'm not gutted either, I've other things to be more concerned with.

It will be interesting to see if he can hold on to those figures over the next year. Some people are already tiring of his show's format.

Another thing that is interesting is Graham Norton's success these last 2 weeks. I'm no great fan of his but can listen to his show, the more relaxed manner maybe?

We just need another station, didn't Colin mention something on hear not long ago?

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Helen May wrote:
We just need another station, didn't Colin mention something on hear not long ago


I've haven't had any more mutterings from the gravevine for a while, though I understand that there are all the usual issues of (a) finance and (b) licensing considerations to get in the way.

I have, however, heard that there are some pretty weighty broadcasting names involved - at least one of which would provide me with all the encouragement necessary to listen to the station without hesitation! Wink
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I still think Evans belongs on Radio 1, doesn't matter how old he is physically, his mind is still that of a kid and Radio 1 is for kids.


I don't agree, John. Evans is "past it" where Radio One listeners is concerned. My 26-year-old son listens to R1 now and then and in the estimation of himself and his close friends Evans is a "****i** **a*" (see note below) who reached his peak in the early 90s.

I find myself listening to R1 quite a lot these days - not just when I'm a passenger in my son's car - but voluntarily (!) and I have to say that there are a few presenters whose style I like and whose musical choices I respect. Fearne Cotton played some great stuff during the short time I listened this morning, for instance. (Ok, so I have the hots for young Fearney, but that's another thing. Just don't tell Mrs. B). Razz

Obviously there are lots of people who, unlike the bulk of R1 listeners, think that Evans is highly suited to Radio 2 at Breakfast. If that's the case, I'll leave them to their choice and listen to my iPod plugged into the Gear4 dock in the kitchen. There's thousands of alternative sources there - much, much better than Evans' irritating (and actually dated) style.

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If "there's thousands of alternative sources there - much, much better than Evans irritating (and actually dated) style" Colin, why do you keep banging on about Chris Evans show all the time?
I personally couldn't care less what the bulk of Radio1 listeners think of Chris Evans, what the hell have they got to do with anything?
I wouldn't listen to Radio 1 as I have no interest in it or have a desperate need to prove how hip I am.
Therefore I wouldn't go on to a Radio 1 forum to spout off about something I have no interest in.
And as for your son thinking Chris is a "******* **a*", congratulations to your son, I daresay a lot of people think the same about him, you or me.
As I said before it's just his opinion, let him listen to your Ipod plugged into your Gear 4 dock (so cool), problem solved.
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Helen May wrote:

Another thing that is interesting is Graham Norton's success these last 2 weeks. I'm no great fan of his but can listen to his show, the more relaxed manner maybe?



My thoughts exactly Helen. As I've said before, I don't like being talked AT which is Evans and Wright's stock-in trade; Graham Norton's style suits my morning mood better.

I also like Norton's hint of gentle self-deprecation which STW was so good at; you seem to be encouraged to laugh with him instead of Evans constantly (and sometimes desperately) trying to be funny, something he does not seem to do well.

I've also said before that there are elements of Chris Evans' show which I quite like, but the irritating "mega-phone call" and "hello-goodbye" bits continue to grate.
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Congrats to Evans, but after a) getting an extra 30 minutes each day to his show to figure in the RAJARS and b) receiving a constant barrage of publicity non stop from September onwards from across the BBC, was he ever going to fail?

I await the cries of sour grapes with delight Cool
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If "there's thousands of alternative sources there - much, much better than Evans irritating (and actually dated) style" Colin, why do you keep banging on about Chris Evans show all the time?


I'm not. I'm just responding to others' comments particularly John's, by way of his suggestion that Evans' style of "kiddies" radio is more suited to Radio One.

gazmando wrote:
I personally couldn't care less what the bulk of Radio1 listeners think of Chris Evans, what the hell have they got to do with anything?


I re-iterate: I was responding to John's view that Evans was more suited to Radio One.

gazmando wrote:
I wouldn't listen to Radio 1 as I have no interest in it or have a desperate need to prove how hip I am.

Therefore I wouldn't go on to a Radio 1 forum to spout off about something I have no interest in.


I re-iterate (yet again...). On second thoughts........

gazmando wrote:
And as for your son thinking Chris is a "******* **a*", congratulations to your son, I daresay a lot of people think the same about him, you or me.


That's not the point, though, is it? Again - I was picking up John's observation and in doing so pointing out that Radio One listeners would be the last to welcome Evans back. And I can hardly blame them either!

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As I said before it's just his opinion, let him listen to your Ipod plugged into your Gear 4 dock (so cool), problem solved.


He doesn't need to listen to mine. He has his own music system. In his own house. Paid for by his own job. Problem solved.

So, to recap - I disagree with John's point. Radio One listeners would simply not agree that Evans' juvenile brand of radio is more suited to their ears. I can't say I'd want to inflict that on them either!
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I'd agree with Colin that Radio 1 listeners don't want him back there. Sons and daughters of friends of mine (18-22 age) can't stand him.

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On the subject of Radio One, it's interesting how many 20-somethings lament the passing of John Peel. My son's circle (mostly musicians or people active in music creation) still say that radio hasn't been the same since he died. It's nice - especially given Peel's age when he died!

Of course, he was a different style of radio broadcaster compared to the standards required to fill broadcasting time today.

I'm just digitising a recording I made of a John Peel show from 26th November 1975 in which he previewed Joni Mitchell's "Hissing of Summer Lawns" album (one of my all-time favourites) and I'm reminded of just how good a broadcaster Peel was.

Alas, those days are gone. Radio has changed - and generally not for the better. The planned closure of 6Music is a clear indication of where BBC senior managers' heads are - in Cloud Cuckoo Land!
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This is utter, utter bullshit. There is no way on this earth that Chris Evans can have possibly gained more listeners than Terry had when you consider the amount of listeners that have deserted the Breakfast show.

Chris Evans will need to have regained enough new listeners to counteract this plus gained a few more on top. This is just a case of Evans not being allowed to fail at any cost. I have not met one single person - and this is a fact - that used to listen to Terry and now listens to Chris. They have either migrated from R2 until 9:30 or are working in silence as I do.

In fact the only two "beings" that I can think of are our two dogs who we leave the Radio on for during the day so if they are counting towards the Rajar figures then they can bloody well find something else to listen to.

I am seething, absolutely seething. Has this country really dumbed down so much that the most pleasing thing to their ears in the morning is a load of hashed together features presented by someone who badly needs a dose of Ritalin and cannot survive without being surrounded by a baying pack of sycophants? I give up I really do.
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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2010 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone know what the current figures for "Drivetime" are?
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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2010 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only that they seem to be up according to Simon Mayo's blog on the Drivetime page dated 13 May. He seemed quite pleased about them, although no figures were mentioned.

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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2010 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what are you saying then Angus, that the independent body, RAJAR are manipulating the figures to keep Bob Shennan happy?
I understand people not liking someone, but you need to calm down a bit.
The people who don't like Chris say the RAJARS mean nothing, so why are you getting het up about it?
If they'd have announced they'd gone down would that have made you happy as it suited your viewpoint?
Also who are these "baying pack of sycophants" that you are talking about, if I may ask?
I enjoyed TW, I enjoy Chris and I've enjoyed Graham sitting in for Chris, as did/do my work colleagues. Actually the majority of them prefer Chris to Terry as he brightens up dull mornings and plays a good variety of music.
Most of the moans I hear at work is when Ken keeps playing the same records.
My work colleagues are aged from 23 to 64 so I'd say that is a pretty broad spectrum of ages and musical tastes there.
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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2010 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Angus McCoatup wrote:

I am seething, absolutely seething. Has this country really dumbed down so much that the most pleasing thing to their ears in the morning is a load of hashed together features presented by someone who badly needs a dose of Ritalin and cannot survive without being surrounded by a baying pack of sycophants? I give up I really do.


Well said, Angus. I couldn't agree more.

My measure (for what it's worth) of a good radio presenter is someone who can sit at a microphone for the duration and engage an audience. Evans simply can't do that without being surrounded by people that exist only to prop him up. On the evidence of the last couple of decades he's clearly incapable of doing that. He needs support from his "baying sycophants" at all times. He just cannot hack it on his own, which is a strong indication that he craves attention all of the time whilst remaining in control. With Evans, it's "me, me, me" all the way.

And, like you, I give up too!

Radio 2 Breakfast is an embarrassment for the BBC. The fact that it gains ratings figures that are sufficient to justify its continued existence to the corporation (and to the overpaid presenter who can afford to buy a very rare Ferrari on the proceeds) is a bad reflection on the expectations of the British public.

Still, that's what people want. People also crave what MacDonalds produce as well. Say no more........
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Angus McCoatup wrote:
This is utter, utter bullshit. There is no way on this earth that Chris Evans can have possibly gained more listeners than Terry had when you consider the amount of listeners that have deserted the Breakfast show.


Maybe if you thought about adding in the amount of listeners that have started tuning in to the breakfast show???
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