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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:22 am    Post subject: I hate to... Reply with quote

say this... in fact, it hurts..... a lot. Colin will be so pleased- he may even gloat a little- and that's ok- I don't mind (through gritted teeth) as long as it's just a little Smile
My new phone is fantastic! It does everything! I should have had one years ago! It's a phone of course, it wouldn't be a phone if it wasn't but it does e-mail, internet, I can even come here on it, it plays music, it has a radio, it's a camera, an MP3 player, an organiser, a radio alarm, a clock and it's pink! But better than all of those things, it works in my canoe out at sea). yay! Smile I wonder if it's waterproof...)
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, but can it make bacon butties?

They keep writing/emailing me to have a Loganberry or something; I'd just be happy to have one that isn't dead and which gets a signal when I really want it.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:46 am    Post subject: Re: I hate to... Reply with quote

Rachel wrote:
say this... in fact, it hurts..... a lot. Colin will be so pleased- he may even gloat a little- and that's ok- I don't mind (through gritted teeth) as long as it's just a little Smile
My new phone is fantastic! It does everything! I should have had one years ago! It's a phone of course, it wouldn't be a phone if it wasn't but it does e-mail, internet, I can even come here on it, it plays music, it has a radio, it's a camera, an MP3 player, an organiser, a radio alarm, a clock and it's pink! But better than all of those things, it works in my canoe out at sea). yay! Smile I wonder if it's waterproof...)


It's OK Rachel, I'm not the gloating kind! I will, however, reflect on something I feel strongly about - that it's important to acquire technology that meets our needs, rather than for fashion (as so many people do, unfortunately), but I guess that's what drives consumerism). So, in your case, you obviously have a need - so what's the problem?

When you think about it, it makes so much sense to have a single device that does a lot of things that you might wish to use at some stage - so, having a "phone" that takes good quality stills, video and which also enables you to receive and send emails, check your current location on a map via GPS (that, for me, is a major plus) and other stuff means that you don't need lots of other devices cluttering your pockets or bags.

When I'm reviewing a piece of technology, I use the "speech to text" app on my iPhone 3GS to (a) record my observations and thoughts aurally and then (b) to convert it into editable text and finally (c) to email it to myself - or transfer it to my Apple Mac - where I can then work on it in a text editor. Brilliant!

Congratulations on your purchase. It sounds to me like you're already convinced of its worth. The big thing is that it's not just a phone - it's a mobile computer (although, perhaps, the word "computer" is a bit obsolete these days).
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the things I worry about is getting important e-mails when Iím not at home- thatís why I bought a broadband dongle for my laptop when I was away in the summer- but a laptop isnít exactly handy when youíre out and about on the move Ė they need to be somewhere but my new phone is cool beans! Smaller than my old one, yet more useful. Itís wicked init! Also when I go canoeing I have to take all sorts of flares and a marine band radio, but with a phone, if I get into any trouble I can call the coastguard myself- thatís easier than setting off a flare or using a radio and I can tell them exactly where I am with the GPS thingy.
I sort of gave up on technology with my Goblin Teasmade in the 70s but I'm getting back into it slowly. Wink

It doesn't make bacon butties though.... but I do! Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a HTC SENSE phone has everything on it.....can i use the bloody thing? No!
Do you need a degree to operate these things?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

littlepieces wrote:
I have a HTC SENSE phone has everything on it.....can i use the bloody thing? No!
Do you need a degree to operate these things?


It did take me quite a while to get the internet and e-mail to work- I just kept getting a stupid message saying - "you need to subscribe to a data package first". I HAVE!!! I HAVE!!! I would yell back. It turned out all I had to do was text "Active" to 2020 or someting like that- a few beeps later- it just worked. They are quite intuitive for the on board features but there was no instructions on how to make the connection work on the internet- I found out by accident by browisng a few web forums on my laptop. I guess because it's different for different networks- they just don't bother telling you. Texting is much easier than with my old phone too.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

littlepieces wrote:
I have a HTC SENSE phone has everything on it.....can i use the bloody thing? No!
Do you need a degree to operate these things?


If it requires the user to think hard about how to use it, then the operating system / user interface (UI) hasn't been designed properly. It should be intuitive.

I don't like the HTC (Android) interface - I prefer Apple's as seen on the iPhone, iPad, Touch etc.

Tests have been done with 5-year-olds using the iPad and the outcome is that they can take it straight from the box and use it without any guidance whatever. That's proper UI design.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rachel wrote:
littlepieces wrote:

Do you need a degree to operate these things?

They are quite intuitive for the on board features but there was no instructions..... .....they just don't bother telling you. Texting is much easier than with my old phone too.


They've gone from all to nothing. You used to get a great thick and weighty tome of instructions, for everything, in half a dozen languages, and you'd lose the will to live reading them. Now you get nothing, you're supposed to guess. Yes, the buzz word is "intuitive", but I wouldn't like to meet the woman whose intuition they used.

Texting, and its neighbour from hell predictive texting, is one of the very few things I lose all patience with (that and just missing a call from someone else's mobile, and when you ring them straight back they've switched theirs off!). If they've really managed to make it easier (without costing an arm and a leg) I'll be down to the phone shop as quick as you can say knife.

ColinB wrote:
Tests have been done with 5-year-olds using the iPad and the outcome is that they can take it straight from the box and use it without any guidance whatever. That's proper UI design.

I've played with son's iPad, and it's OK but interweb seems very limited and alternately too sensitive or not responsive at all.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My 83-year-old Dad is technophobic (despite being a manufacturing production manager in his day) and yet he was using my iPhone 3GS without any help from me within minutes of being thrown it. In fact, I was quite amazed at how quickly he adapted to it. He even sussed the "swish" effect in moving through sequences of images just by tracking his forefinger across the screen and also pinch-&-separate fingers to zoom in or out of maps, images, documents, etc.

The big plus of these Smartphones (of which Apple's are way out in front, imho) is the way that Apps integrate with the core functionality of the operating system (Apple iOS on its own devices, Android etc on others) as well as one's more conventional "computers" (whatever they are).

This is extended to the iPad, which is a marvel of modern technology. I'm working on some education & training resources which will end up being accessed on iPhones and iPads and it's all very exciting! In fact, technological development is so fast it's really difficult to keep up as a content creator.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well done Colin, you bagged the 100k message! Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ha ha! I'd like to say great timing on my part eh! However, the reality is that I'd clean forgotten about it... Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love my iPhone - e-mail, Twitter, Facebook, web browsing, document-writer, PDA, camera, jukebox, gaming machine, maps, all knowledge at my fingertips. Brilliant!

Shame it's rubbish at making phone calls but I suppose you can't have everything! Laughing
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