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mark occomore
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 Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:55 pm Post subject: Military Action In Syria |
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| Parliament are recalled for a vote and debate of possible military action in Syria after a chemical attack was reported. US have already positioned themselves for battle. It's Ok for David Cameron to say -" we are not looking for another war in the middle east". Then the US don't want regime change. Cameron and Obama are preparing for Military action. So both countries fire missiles and air strikes - then that's it for the long haul as Syria will fight back? First we need to see Humanitarian aid in Syria. |
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ruddlescat
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| Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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Yet another case of Britain interfering in a situation at huge expense to the hard pressed British taxpayer where we have no strategic interest - actually it's rather more in our interest to keep well out of it because although if we help to topple Assad initially we will be hailed as heroes after a while the natives will turn on us as a foreign interfering force just like Iraq and Afghanistan
Cameron is behaving like a complete idiot - America has about 400 Cruise Missiles at its disposal - we have about half a dozen and with the state our country is in we can't afford to fire even those 
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Toggy
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| Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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| We should stay out of it, end of. |
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Blondehedgehog
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| Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 10:11 am Post subject: |
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I am so glad the debate regected joining the USA. Parliament never appears to do what the masses want, although it is the masses who vote for them. I wonder if the PM will stick to his words 'I GET IT' or in a few days twist it out of proportion? And the MP's that dared to vote against him....will they be sacked?
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FleetingEileenM
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The UN appears to be hamstrung by Russia and China. There is never going to be agreement with those two on board. I think a majority vote on action should be held. It's not fair to expect the USA and France to do it on their own. Something has to be done. The attack on the school playground was just horrendous, let alone all the other atrocities.
I think that the weapons inspectors say they need two weeks to collate the information they have obtained. The "judgement" of David Cameron and various MPs is simply not enough to warrant our getting involved militarily. We need absolute proof.
BTW, what do Russia and China think should be done about stopping the carnage in Syria? Anyone know? Or what are the opinions on here as to how it can be stopped? Or do we turn a blind eye and say "We have nothing to gain as a country by interfering, it's not our problem so let them get on with it." |
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ruddlescat
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| Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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I think you hit the nail on the head with your last sentence Eileen 
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| Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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| FleetingEileenM wrote: |
I think that the weapons inspectors say they need two weeks to collate the information they have obtained.
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The problem is, if the inspectors find positive evidence, it doesn't prove who used them.
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FleetingEileenM
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| Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 10:54 am Post subject: |
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| SantaFefan wrote: | | FleetingEileenM wrote: |
I think that the weapons inspectors say they need two weeks to collate the information they have obtained.
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The problem is, if the inspectors find positive evidence, it doesn't prove who used them. |
It is being mooted that the rebel forces simply wouldn't have had the capability to carry out that attack on the school playground but it is all "opinion" which isn't good enough.
However, I do think that international action is needed to put an end to the carnage. Even if the UK has voted not to get involved, how can we stand by and watch innocent children being killed and wounded by chemical weapons which are banned by international law. |
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ruddlescat
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| Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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| FleetingEileenM wrote: | | SantaFefan wrote: | | FleetingEileenM wrote: |
I think that the weapons inspectors say they need two weeks to collate the information they have obtained.
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The problem is, if the inspectors find positive evidence, it doesn't prove who used them. |
It is being mooted that the rebel forces simply wouldn't have had the capability to carry out that attack on the school playground but it is all "opinion" which isn't good enough.
However, I do think that international action is needed to put an end to the carnage. Even if the UK has voted not to get involved, how can we stand by and watch innocent children being killed and wounded by chemical weapons which are banned by international law. |
Sadly innocent children are being massacred by death squads in many parts of the world including many parts of Africa and even in places like Brazil and other parts of South America - the difference being that the situation in Syria is constantly 'in our faces' whereas thousands of other deaths for whatever reason do not get media coverage
We are a small country with an economy which is depressed still and we are deeply overborrowed so how on earth can we be expected to spend millions on a problem which is not of our making when many of our own population have reached the point of having to rely on food banks and assistance from charities in order to live?
Of course Britain should do all it can to try to help resolve the problems in Syria but certainly not by military action which most Syrian people do not want anyway
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