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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:38 pm    Post subject: Responses to New Presenters Reply with quote

Reading the Harriet Scott thread, I think there are only ever two possible responses to new presenters on Radio 2:

1) Rubbish - I've never heard of them

2) Rubbish - another celebrity signing!

It's a difficult line for the Radio 2 bosses to tread, isn't it? Damned if they do, damned if they don't.

I'm sure in 1967 people would have complained about failed singer Jimmy Young dumbing down the station's output.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobody used the word 'rubbish' Ian

Obviously it's only fair to comment after listening but the point occurs to me that there are numerous really competent presenters already on the station who are either rarely or never used for covering these slots - so it begs the question why the need to bring in anyone new at all

To me it simply reinforces the Shennan attitude that if your face fits you're in but if not God help you - I'm sure the likes of Mike Harding and Stuart Maconie would vouch for that Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harriet is more a Radio person than a celeb
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I've heard of her - and I quite like her style. I occasionally listened to her when she was with Virgin Radio (in the days before Chris Evans bought it and subsequently ruined it) and in my opinion she's a good presenter - the sort that Radio 2 desperately needs!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Responses to New Presenters Reply with quote

Ian Robinson wrote:
Reading the Harriet Scott thread, I think there are only ever two possible responses to new presenters on Radio 2:

1) Rubbish - I've never heard of them

2) Rubbish - another celebrity signing!

It's a difficult line for the Radio 2 bosses to tread, isn't it? Damned if they do, damned if they don't.

I'm sure in 1967 people would have complained about failed singer Jimmy Young dumbing down the station's output.


How does 'me neither', in reply to Ruddles previous post saying he hasn't heard of her, translate to 'rubbish' Ian?

You really are trying to read things that aren't there to be read.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The issue here for me is not over the capability or otherwise of the lady concerned but rather over the constant introduction of new presenters by Mr Shennan where listeners simply don't have chance to get used to any single new recruit before others are brought in at breakneck speed

At the end of the day a radio station is a business and we are its customers and I know from personal experience that customers like stability and not constant change

I recall many instances when I was running businesses over many years of my bringing in agencies to provide staff for holiday cover and quite apart from charging rip off fees these agencies never gave me the same staff on any two consecutive weeks and sometimes not even on consecutive days to the point where customers used to moan like hell about it

Going back 30 years ago whilst I was not a listener then I recall that R2 had a fairly settled format of presenters - usually with cover being provided by other people already within the station

This even happened with Radio One in those days and it was rare for anyone from outside the station to be brought in - and when new names were introduced such as the likes of Paul Burnett,Steve Wright or Roger Scott they were already very well established professional DJ's with their own followings who were well known from major stations like Luxembourg

I know that there were some examples of 'new talent' being recruited from local radio - the likes of Simon Mayo and Gary Davies - but these changes were gradual and managed whereas these days we seem to be getting newcomers almost every month - how long is it since Maria Macfarlane was brought in following the demise of Eurotrash Rolling Eyes

I'm all for giving new talent a chance but do not believe that listeners should constantly be used like 'guinea pigs' for Mr Shennan to see whether his latest idea seems to work or not - and yes I will give the early breakfast show a listen - after all it can't be any worse than having to endure the torture of Anneka Rice Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 6:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Responses to New Presenters Reply with quote

Ian Robinson wrote:
Reading the Harriet Scott thread, I think there are only ever two possible responses to new presenters on Radio 2:

1) Rubbish - I've never heard of them

2) Rubbish - another celebrity signing!

It's a difficult line for the Radio 2 bosses to tread, isn't it? Damned if they do, damned if they don't.

I'm sure in 1967 people would have complained about failed singer Jimmy Young dumbing down the station's output.


Looking him up it says he had 2 No 1's ....some people can only dream of achieving that.
3 weeks at the top of the charts with Unchained Melody and 4 weeks at the top with Man From Laramie.

He also had

A No 4
A No 8
A No 9
A No 11
A No13
A No15
A No 25
A No 30
in the UK charts

(+ a hit version of Too Young before the charts started)

Goodness knows how many weeks he spent in the charts altogether

I wouldn't define him as a failed singer
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Colin wrote:
Well I've heard of her - and I quite like her style. I occasionally listened to her when she was with Virgin Radio (in the days before Chris Evans bought it and subsequently ruined it) and in my opinion she's a good presenter - the sort that Radio 2 desperately needs!


Shame the past tends to follow him. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 6:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Responses to New Presenters Reply with quote

Ian Robinson wrote:

I'm sure in 1967 people would have complained about failed singer Jimmy Young dumbing down the station's output.


Actually he was on Radio 1 as well, so you could say he was also a cast off from there!

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He was indeed Helen. At mid-day, Radio 1 shared Radio 2's network - and thus benefitted from VHF at that point!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I would just like to say:
1. I have never heard of her
2. That no 1 is not a criticism, or even a problem. I think it probably is a good thing (ie. she is not another celeb, known for non-radio stuff, who just fancied having a crack at a radio show).
3. I look forward to listening to her.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Colin wrote:
He was indeed Helen. At mid-day, Radio 1 shared Radio 2's network - and thus benefitted from VHF at that point!


VHF that's a blast from the past Colin! I remember a TV at home as a child having a VHF radio in it (good for recording as it had a line out socket!) as well. I'd never heard of that then.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, VHF was such a luxury then! I remember the Radio 1 continuity announcer (imagine that now!) announcing John Peel's "Sounds of the Seventies" show at 10.00pm Friday by saying "And now Radio 1 joins Radio 2 on Medium Wave and VHF Stereo with....." etc.

My teenage friend was an apprentice electrician who used to love "bodging" radio and TV equipment and his dad allowed to modify their older Radiogram (wow - another blast from the past) to provide a line output which we then used to record to my Philips portable audio-cassette recorder, the very first of its kind. I asked my dad if he could similarly modify our record player but he wouldn't allow it!

A few years later, as a student, I managed to buy a "portable" Ferrograph Series 4 1/4" audio tape recorder - built like a proverbial brick wotsit and made in made by North East Audio Limited in South Shields - for 7 from a fellow student who was clearing out his dad's loft and had to buy my own receiver to record to it. I still have that recorder!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been to Ferrograph's place in South Shields Colin. I think I had to take or collect something for Dad's Ferrograph, must have been in the 70s <yikes>.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, NEAL had the supply contract to all Police authorities to make the interview room recordings at Police stations when audio-cassette was used. Of course, it's all digital now and I don't think they're in the market any more.

Pity, because they were a great British company and brand.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ferrographs were absolutely superb in their day - the ultimate in the reel to reel recording world

I recall my cousin had one - and I was very jealous Mad
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, Studer and Revox (both made by Studer) were considered the ultimate, but Ferrograph was the UK's premium brand. They were built like tanks (witness my own, dating from the 1950s!) and fabulously robust.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes Colin - you're probably right but of course in those days it was seen as being very unpatriotic and disloyal to buy anything other than British made goods

I recall being given a BASF tape one Christmas and asking my uncle whether he had the receipt as I wanted to swap it for something more traditional like Philips - which of course unknown to me at that time was a company based in The Netherlands Embarassed
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Colin wrote:
Actually, Studer and Revox (both made by Studer) were considered the ultimate, but Ferrograph was the UK's premium brand. They were built like tanks (witness my own, dating from the 1950s!) and fabulously robust.


The first one that we had must have weighed about 30LBs or more, it was enormous!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mark occomore wrote:
Harriet is more a Radio person than a celeb


As long as it's not Radio 2 Very Happy

I wasn't impressed.

Nothing wrong with celebs if they have something interesting to say and play, sadly a lot don't.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not been on here since I posted this grumpy and slightly facetious topic. Glad I stimulated some debate!

I suppose my point was, that as fans of Radio 2 we're often quick to judge new voices whether we know they have experience or not. But while I think there's some duffers (Anneka Rice), the line-up is amazing compared to the way other radio stations are going.

I see the changes at Smooth, then their ripples to other stations, and just get depressed. The way we all consume and discover music is changing yet the commercial stations play it safer than ever - people may as well listen to their iPods. If the BBC wants to continue to lead then it needs challenging music and truly engaging presenters - hopefully Shennan and co are looking for them.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, the music they play is 99% rubbish, let's be honest. At least in the daytime schedule. You may as well listen to Heart etc, if you like that sort of thing. I find Listen Again the way to go, along with 6 Music.

The presenters don't mean a thing, if they ain't got that swing.
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