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| nod wrote: | | What about CE on Fridays then , that's a request show. |
See highlighted part below.
| gfloyd wrote: | | J_ROC72 wrote: | | The only request show there is on Radio 2 is the cringe-worthy Sunday Love Songs with Steve Wright. |
Still not listening to Radio 2 then?
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Friday night 2 hours during drivetime
Steve Wright Non Stop Oldies
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http://www.radiotoday.co.uk/news.php?extend.2571 - Another article about Michael Parkinson leaving R2.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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| gfloyd wrote: | | J_ROC72 wrote: | | The only request show there is on Radio 2 is the cringe-worthy Sunday Love Songs with Steve Wright. |
Still not listening to Radio 2 then?
Request Shows:
Friday night 2 hours during drivetime
Steve Wright Non Stop Oldies
Sarah Kennedy's showtune |
1. I do not listen to Chris Evans
2. His show is NOT a general request show.
3. Steve Wright's show is NOT a general request show.
4. Sarah Kennedy's show is NOT a general request show. |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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| mark occomore wrote: | | Bob Harris and Johnnie Walker take requests from listeners on their shows. |
But they are not general request shows, Mark. |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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Regarding Chris Evans.
A large proportion of listeners cannot stand him and do not listen to his show. Radio 2 needs a general request show that will cater for ALL tastes and not just those who like anything post 1970. Ed Stewart on a Sunday morning in place of the smug and patronising Steve Wright would cater for all tastes. People would be able to request music from the 50s through to the present day. You don't get that kind of variety and diversity on the Chris Evans show. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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"1. I do not listen to Chris Evans
2. His show is NOT a general request show. "
Your missing some good shows,
it has a good selection of tracks, which sound general to me, blame the public for choosing them if you don't like them  |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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| J_ROC72 wrote: | Regarding Chris Evans.
A large proportion of listeners cannot stand him and do not listen to his show. |
Name a presenter that everybody likes. It cant be done.
If you dont listen to the show, how would you know. Just for your info, on Friday nights callers from the general public call up and request songs. Those songs can be from any of the last 50 years. They are generally songs that have been in the Top 40 singles chart at some time. That sounds like a general request show to me.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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| gfloyd wrote: | | J_ROC72 wrote: | Regarding Chris Evans.
A large proportion of listeners cannot stand him and do not listen to his show. |
Name a presenter that everybody likes. It cant be done.
If you dont listen to the show, how would you know. Just for your info, on Friday nights callers from the general public call up and request songs. Those songs can be from any of the last 50 years. They are generally songs that have been in the Top 40 singles chart at some time. That sounds like a general request show to me. |
How do I know about the Chris Evans show? Because I have heard it in the past (and I wasn't that impressed). People also talk about on Internet forums.
I never said any presenter would appeal to all listeners. Somebody neutral presenting a request show on Radio 2 (like Ed Stewart or Richard Allinson) would appeal to all ages. I very much doubt Chris Evans gets many "Ed Stewart style" listeners to his show because Chris mostly appeals to the younger listeners (a bit like Dermot O'Leary, Mark Radcliffe and Russell Brand do for example). |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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| J_ROC72 wrote: | | I very much doubt Chris Evans gets many "Ed Stewart style" listeners to his show because Chris mostly appeals to the younger listeners (a bit like Dermot O'Leary, Mark Radcliffe and Russell Brand do for example). |
Average age of listeners to Chris Evans show is 48
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | They are generally songs that have been in the Top 40 singles chart at some time. That sounds like a general request show to me. |
How many people in their 50s, 60s, 70s and 80s contact the show requesting to hear music from the 1950s and 60s, from artists like Ella Fitzgerald, Frankie Vaughan, Tony Bennett, Dame Vera Lynn and Nat King Cole?
Chris Evans request show is not designed for such music to be played (or for those listeners in those age groups). Ed Stewart did play music from those artists and get an awful lot of requests from elderly listeners. This is the kind of show Radio 2 needs reinstating. All that music Radio 2 has access to yet it would much rather play the same repetitive crap every single day. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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| J_ROC72 wrote: | | Ed Stewart did play music from those artists and get an awful lot of requests from elderly listeners. This is the kind of show Radio 2 needs reinstating. |
Is this what you used to called granny c***?
| J_ROC72 wrote: | | All that music Radio 2 has access to yet it would much rather play the same repetitive crap every single day. |
hmmm. Well the music variety on drivetime is much greater than on other daytime shows.
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" Chris mostly appeals to the younger listeners (a bit like Dermot O'Leary, Mark Radcliffe and Russell Brand do for example)."
I wouldn't put this lot together, I like Chris E and Mark R but can't stick the other 2. How old is young ?, I'm in my 50's and still enjoy these shows. It's more about attitude than age. |
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| there are rumours that Terry Wogan could be taking over Parks sunday slot- does that mean he is giving up breakfast though? |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 6:29 am Post subject: |
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| iain_smith wrote: | | there are rumours that Terry Wogan could be taking over Parks sunday slot- does that mean he is giving up breakfast though? |
No!! Because he's not. |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 10:32 am Post subject: |
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| iain_smith wrote: | | there are rumours that Terry Wogan could be taking over Parks sunday slot- does that mean he is giving up breakfast though? |
You mean the rumours you have just started?! 
Wogan will remain on breakfast until at least 2009 - that was confirmed earlier this year when he signed another 2-year contract for the breakfast show. |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 10:39 am Post subject: |
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| nod wrote: | " Chris mostly appeals to the younger listeners (a bit like Dermot O'Leary, Mark Radcliffe and Russell Brand do for example)."
I wouldn't put this lot together, I like Chris E and Mark R but can't stick the other 2. How old is young ?, I'm in my 50's and still enjoy these shows. It's more about attitude than age. |
A lot of veteran and older listeners do not like the changes made to Radio 2. Many feel disenfranchised and forgotten about. Radio 2 does have to move with the times but some people feel the station is changing too fast. Who would have ever thought the likes of Chris Evans and Russell Brand would end up on Radio 2? We've also had stints from Ricky Gervais, Jon Holmes, Lauren Laverne, Kate Thornton, Davina McCall - many of whom were criticised by the older listeners.
My folks are in their 60s and love all that noisy trance music (the kind of stuff Annie Nightingale plays). Maybe Annie Nightingale should host a show on Radio 2 for new age hippies? I know my folks would listen! They listen to music that I don't (now I feel old!). I remember my mother being a huge fan of Mark & Lard on Radio 1 whereas my father, just like me, is a huge fan of Danny Baker! |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 11:18 am Post subject: |
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I'd go for a 2 hour Sound of the 70's and I'd try and poach Rick Wakeman from Planet Rock to host it.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 11:48 am Post subject: |
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Noddy Holder would be an excellent host of Sounds of the Seventies!  |
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Rob
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| Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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I would like to see Desmond Carrington back on Sundays.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:17 am Post subject: |
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| Sunday nights at 8pm. |
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| J_ROC72 wrote: | | My folks are in their 60s and love all that noisy trance music (the kind of stuff Annie Nightingale plays). Maybe Annie Nightingale should host a show on Radio 2 for new age hippies? I know my folks would listen! They listen to music that I don't (now I feel old!). |
But what's the point of having a separate radio station - designed to suit a different "demographic" - if it's going to start replicating what another station (Radio 1 and loads of others) is doing? You've only got to listen to the dire sausage-machine rubbish that's broadcast by the stations in the GCap group to realise what can happen.
The day R2 starts playing Trance and Hip-Hop etc in its mainstream programming is the day I give up.
Each of the main four BBC network radio stations has to offer something distinctive and different from the others - otherwise it doesn't justify its existence. I think that, as a result of appalling standards of stewardship under Lesley Douglas. She's obsessed with attracting an audience that doesn't really exist and at turning away the audience upon which the station actually depends. |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 10:19 am Post subject: |
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Very true fred, IMHO, we have a diverse & eclectic mix on R2 which of course not all of which I like or listen to. However, this diversity provides for most musical tastes, apart from the what I would call "teen taste", which is catered for on the likes of R1. This means that across the R2 network there is something for the 20 somethings to the 80 somethings. As you point out fred, under LD, this is being continually watered down and what R2 is evolving into, IMHO, is a R1 1/2 which neither caters for the "teen taste" or more adult and mature musical tastes and I believe will eventually lead to a loss of listeners as the core R2 listeners will look elsewhere for their choice of radio listening.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Well, I'm glad Parky is going. I've campaigned for his removal since 2003! |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not glad he's going (though I can understand why he's given up fighting a tide of increasing banality on R2) because I like to have access to a wide range of music as well as intelligent, informed discussion rather than the banal and patronising crap we get from the likes of Evans and Brand (to name just two - there are more!).
I also think his experience as a journalist and as a presenter is invaluable. I like to hear a programme that isn't afraid to mix Frank Sinatra, Count Basie, The Beatles and loads of other musical genres - not many producers and/or presenters have the guts to do that these days - perhaps because they're assuming that their listeners are just too narrow-minded.
Variety is the spice of life. Life would be bland otherwise - listen to almost every commercial radio station for evidence. |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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Unfortunately, Lesley Douglas has said that the likes of Jonathan Ross, Chris Evans, Dermot O'Leary, Russell Brand, Steve Wright - and a few others, are the future of Radio 2. She's also grooming Steve Lamacq, Lauren Laverne, Davina McCall and Kate Thornton to become major players on the network. They don't all appeal to me - but must appeal to some listeners.
I get the feeling Lesley Douglas is creating a Radio 2 to fulfil HER tastes and also allocate slots to HER pals. We've also got Elaine Paige and Alan Titchmarsh for the older listeners, both of whom are crap on the radio. Paige should stick to what she's good at - performing whereas Titchmarsh should stick to what he is good at - green fingering.
Some listeners are appalled that Alan Titchmarsh only plays HIS FAVOURITE music on Melodies for You, and if he doesn't like it then it won't get played. There goes the diversity of Melodies for You (a programme I have never liked). It's basically just listening to Alan Titchmarsh playing his favourite records and talking a load of old inane twaddle in between. |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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Quotes: 'I hope I'm representative of the average person.'
'I know talent when I see it.'
'It's not about me and my personal taste.'
'If you listen to Terry Wogan and Jonathan Ross, they talk about their family, their children.'
All quotes in a recent magazine article('You') by.....Lesley Douglas!
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That woman is full of Tom Tit!  |
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This place is turning into a bunch of repeatitive moaners, lead by Scott (unsurprisingly). I'm not saying I agree with everything Douglas has done but there are some on here who are never happy unless they are miserable.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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OK ernie, all together now-'Happy Talk, Keep Talking Happy Talk!' Next tune up will be 'Heaven knows I'm miserable now!'  |
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| Briant wrote: | | OK ernie, all together now-'Happy Talk, Keep Talking Happy Talk!' Next tune up will be 'Heaven knows I'm miserable now!' |
I fully expect Scott to lead us in a chorus of "Hang the DJ"
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Some are jumping to conclusions that Parky was pushed? He decided to give up his TV chat show sometime ago, and I think he considered it was time to rest from broadcasting so he's giving up Sundays for Radio 2 at the end of the year. He's not getting any younger along with likes of Wogan, they see younger broadcasters coming in and changes and feel left out a little. I'm sure I would if I was there age.
Whatever changes happen with his time slot people will be up in arms. You never can make everyone happy.
My opinion I think a Sunday supplement will still be there and maybe Kirsty Young or Alistair Stewart will host it?
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| Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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| mark occomore wrote: | | Some are jumping to conclusions that Parky was pushed? |
Hes going to spend more time in Australia.
Please not Alistair Stewart. I always think of traffic speed cameras when I hear his name mentioned. Not what you want on a Sunday morning.
How about  bringing back Mariella Frostrup?
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| Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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| mark occomore wrote: | | He's not getting any younger along with likes of Wogan, they see younger broadcasters coming in and changes and feel left out a little. |
I doubt it, Parky and Wogan have many years left in them for radio.
I'd imagine they feel a little more strongly about the quality of some of the younger signings maybe? particularly Parky.
Listening to his show last Sunday, he said the decision to leave his Sunday show came after his TV decision and he hoped that continuity of material could be maintained whoever takes over.
I hope so too.... 
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| Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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| SantaFefan wrote: | | mark occomore wrote: | | He's not getting any younger along with likes of Wogan, they see younger broadcasters coming in and changes and feel left out a little. |
Listening to his show last Sunday, he said the decision to leave his Sunday show came after his TV decision and he hoped that continuity of material could be maintained whoever takes over.
I hope so too.... |
So looks like the same format will be kept with a different voice? |
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Well he hopes it will and so do I although I can't think of anybody as good as Parky...
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| Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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| mark occomore wrote: | Some are jumping to conclusions that Parky was pushed? He decided to give up his TV chat show sometime ago, and I think he considered it was time to rest from broadcasting so he's giving up Sundays for Radio 2 at the end of the year. He's not getting any younger along with likes of Wogan, they see younger broadcasters coming in and changes and feel left out a little. I'm sure I would if I was there age.
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That's not the point. The point is that he's very critical at the style of management in British broadcasting and he's decided that he's better off out of it. I agree with him. |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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| gfloyd wrote: | | This place is turning into a bunch of repeatitive moaners, lead by Scott (unsurprisingly). I'm not saying I agree with everything Douglas has done but there are some on here who are never happy unless they are miserable. |
And why pinpoint the blame on me? Just because not everyone shares YOUR philosophy of Chris Evans, DON'T throw your toys at me. If you cannot accept that not everyone likes Chris Evans then get over it.
DON'T use me as your scapegoat. |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I fully expect Scott to lead us in a chorus of "Hang the DJ". |
I could name a few. Sarah Kennedy is one of many. At least we, and Radio 2, would finally be liberated of her. If it's Chris Evans then I am sure there queue would be a mile long. We could all poke him with sharp sticks, lob rotten eggs and tomatoes at him and chant vitriolic rants.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | So looks like the same format will be kept with a different voice? |
Arkwright from Open All Hours you mean? Perhaps Granville will read the news? |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Hes going to spend more time in Australia. |
A place where Parky should have cleared off to about a decade ago. Both his ITV1 and Radio 2 shows were nothing but a place for Parky and his guests to hangout.
| Quote: | | Please not Alistair Stewart. I always think of traffic speed cameras when I hear his name mentioned. Not what you want on a Sunday morning. |
Beats listening to slow coach Michael Parkinson and his crap playlist. By the way, Alastair Stewart used to host a Sunday morning slot on Radio 5 Live. I'd sooner hear him on Radio 2 than the boring, jumped up Michael Parkinson or puerile Chris Evans.
| Quote: | | How about Idea bringing back Mariella Frostrup? |
No thanks. She was only given the Helen Mayhew treatment because she was a ratings disaster on Radio 2. |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | My opinion I think a Sunday supplement will still be there and maybe Kirsty Young or Alistair Stewart will host it? |
Alastair Stewart gets my vote over the smug, pompous Kirsty Young. |
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