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Number Six
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NickSheffield
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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This sounds ridiculous. Yet it was The Times that broke the news re the axing of 6Music, so I guess there's a strong reason for believing this to be true. Surely, rebranding the station is going to cost more than just keeping it running? I mean they share facilities as it is, so I cant see how they can save money doing this.
Richard Bacon did a lovely parody the other week of what Radio 2 Extra would sound like. Taking "The Xtra Factor" as an example, he played out a 'behind the scenes' programme for Steve Wright - showing how the factoids are created. Funny stuff. |
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mark occomore
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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6 Music could be rebranded to Radio 2 Extra and reduced to 12 hours a day. Like the old Radio 1.
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Helen May

Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19334 Location: Cheshire
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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Mark,
The link the Number Six provided said just that.
Your link doesn't work by the way.
H _________________ 88 - 91 FM this is Radio 2 from the BBC!
I said it live on air in the studio with Jeremy Vine on 10/3/2005 |
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ColinB Guest
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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Mark, do you not test links (even those that have been posted two posts ahead of you!) before hitting the Submit button?
BTW - it doesn't work in your identical post over on the R2MB either.
Tut tut.  |
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Number Six
Joined: 14 Dec 2006 Posts: 438 Location: In the village
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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Take it my link worked then. I'm a link virgin  _________________ I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. |
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Mark Mayhew
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 2897
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds like a very sensible suggestion to me.
Hopefully we will hear more about this over the coming weeks. |
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NickSheffield
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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Mark Mayhew wrote: | Sounds like a very sensible suggestion to me.
Hopefully we will hear more about this over the coming weeks. |
Why is it sensible? They've realised they've made a mistake and instead of admitting that, they have done a half-baked u-turn and made unneccesary changes that won't affect the budget one iota. |
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mark occomore
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mark occomore
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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A question maybe asked. " What do they do with the other 12 hours?
Simulcast Radio 2 for the other 12 hours. Which shows? 7pm onwards? Or shows during the day? Steve Wright in the afternoon and drivetime? |
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Mark Mayhew
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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Nick-It seems a very sensible suggestion for exactly the reason you state-they have realised they have made a huge mistake in proposing to drop 6 Music.
A station on the air for about 12 hours a day instead of the current format will save shed-loads of money.
Hopefully they can revamp the shows/music played on both Radio 2 and 6 Music to suit all age groups/musical tastes etc.
Lets see more detail first before judging it as a half baked idea. |
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mark occomore
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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There are a lot of shows for example - Record Producers and Radcliffe and Maconie could be aired on 2 extra? More shows which Radio 2 air and commission could be aired sooner rather than later. |
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ColinB Guest
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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mark occomore wrote: | A question maybe asked. " What do they do with the other 12 hours?
Simulcast Radio 2 for the other 12 hours. Which shows? 7pm onwards? Or shows during the day? Steve Wright in the afternoon and drivetime? |
Are you kidding? They'd use exactly the same techniques as are used by a zillion satellite TV stations - namely to program the playout server to fill up the schedule with stuff stored on the system. You don't need any human beings to do manual jobs - the system just does the work. Just like wot I can do with iTunes!
Much of what is broadcast now pulls files from shared server systems like Galileo, so in principle it's easy. |
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NickSheffield
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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Mark Mayhew wrote: |
A station on the air for about 12 hours a day instead of the current format will save shed-loads of money. |
I can't see that, really. 6Music costs either £9mill or £6mill a year to run. The main costs are surely accomodation, license, staff, etc. 6Music is only really 'live' for 12 hours a day anyway - so the overnight voice-tracked pieces probably pale into insignificance. This is all conjecture, but I really can't see it saving much. |
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Lord Evan Elpuss

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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:09 am Post subject: |
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My argument against axing 6 music (besides the fact that I do listen to it at times) is, why go to all the expense of setting the station up just to close it down after only 10 years or so? _________________ Lord Evan Elpuss, Your ideal job is a Lumberjack. |
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aviddiva
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:09 am Post subject: Radio 2 Extra |
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I agree with you, Lord Evan Elpuss. It's unfair they want to do this cheap rebranding stunt.
They'd do better dropping all the pointless cookery shows on TV like Out Of The Frying Pan and The Useless, I mean Delicious Miss Dahl. _________________ We are loonies and we are proud!
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Lord Evan Elpuss

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Fred

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ColinB Guest
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 8:03 am Post subject: |
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It's all a very clever piece of PR. First, you propagate a story that you're considering withdrawing something, then you float the idea of a compromise, then you claim it was all false. In the meantime, you're able to guage the reaction and get people sharing their own thoughts. You can then feed all this back to your paymasters who then reflect on the situation and make concrete decisions.
All people working in PR in a corporate and political context know this "controlled-leak-then-deny-it-all" game only too well. |
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