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Clive55
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 10:44 am Post subject: |
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Helen May wrote: | Little Arrows was 68 Clive, but I've got to disagree about SOTS being better this week. It's the first one I've listened to all the way through in many weeks and sorry to say I found it rather boring with so many obscure tracks.
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That may be it. I prefer the more obscure tracks I think I'm ready to migrate back to this show more often
I must be in a happy mood. I'm even enjoying Graham Norton (so far!) |
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Clive55
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 10:47 am Post subject: |
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ColinB wrote: | Clive55 wrote: | Listening to Sounds of the Sixtees for a change & quite enjoying it. I suppose it depends on what mood I'm in. Enjoyed "Little Arrows" I just had this picture of me getting ready for school listening to Tony Blackburn on the Breakfast Show on Radio 1! Must have been 68 or 69. |
You and me both! That's exactly the image that it conjures up for me, too. |
Colin, there must be loads of people our sort of age with similar memories. I can't imagine how cheesy TB Breakfast show must have been- even then I used to groan at his jokes- but I used to tune in most mornings |
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 10:58 am Post subject: |
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Clive55 wrote: | ColinB wrote: | Clive55 wrote: | Listening to Sounds of the Sixtees for a change & quite enjoying it. I suppose it depends on what mood I'm in. Enjoyed "Little Arrows" I just had this picture of me getting ready for school listening to Tony Blackburn on the Breakfast Show on Radio 1! Must have been 68 or 69. |
You and me both! That's exactly the image that it conjures up for me, too. |
Colin, there must be loads of people our sort of age with similar memories. I can't imagine how cheesy TB Breakfast show must have been- even then I used to groan at his jokes- but I used to tune in most mornings |
I was never allowed to listen to R1 until just after 8.00am when my Dad (who insisted on listening to the "Today" programme with Jack DeManio on Radio 4) went off to work, so I retuned the radio for the half-hour before I left for school. School was just over the back garden fence so I left it as late as possible!
It's funny how we now look back on Tony Blackburn's Breakfast show as being cheesy, but let's face it that's what was brought over from the pirates - and in particular Radios Caroline and London - and so it was all very acceptable (and a sure improvement on the BBC Light programme that preceded 1 and 2).
At school, all my mates ran down Blackburn ("Timmy Bannockburn" as John Peel used to call him on BigL) as being a bit of a berk, but looking back on it he did a great show that helped to changed the face of the BBC forever.
In fact, I'd say it's the best breakfast show that Radio 1 has ever had. |
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Clive55
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 11:08 am Post subject: |
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WE arrived in the UK in the summer of 1968 so not familiar with the light Programn. i remember Radio 1 & I think Radio 2. I recall not long after we came to the UK we went to a "live" recording of Country meets Folk which was then on radio 1, I believe!
In the early seventees I used to tune into Radio Luxemburg, which was very popular with young people at the time.
TB was certainly better than what goes on on Radio 1 these days at Breakfast. Tony would NEVER have winged about his pay on air for half an hour. He was always far more profesional than Moyles. |
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becky sharp
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 11:10 am Post subject: |
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Clive55 wrote: | Listening to Sounds of the Sixtees for a change & quite enjoying it. I suppose it depends on what mood I'm in. Enjoyed "Little Arrows" I just had this picture of me getting ready for school listening to Tony Blackburn on the Breakfast Show on Radio 1! Must have been 68 or 69. |
Leapy Lee was featured in a TV holiday programme that was on a while back ...running a bar, or something of the like, in Spain.
I liked the Tom Jones song that was played this morning ..haven't heard it before and LOVE The Velvet's Tonight that Brian played at the end......such a happy, get on your feet and dance, optimistic song..... |
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ruddlescat
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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I entirely agree with Clive and Colin about some of the music bringing back youthful memories but I also agree with Helen that today's offering was fairly dire even by recent standards
Why does Mr Swern think that the whole audience is obsessed with listening to obscure imports and B sides when in reality most people want to hear the music they recall from their youth but not necessarily the tracks regularly played on Radio 2 daytime shows
Clive I think really by your comments you made this point in a way and I feel the show should be a dose of nostalgia not an attempt to musically educate listeners over 40 years after the event _________________ Are you ready for a Ruddles? |
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aviddiva
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 2:22 pm Post subject: Sounds Of The 60s |
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Wynder K. Frogg's instrumental of Green Door brought back memories of Noel Edmonds using it as backing music on the breakfast show - but this must have been in the 70's. _________________ We are loonies and we are proud!
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becky sharp
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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ruddlescat wrote: | I entirely agree with Clive and Colin about some of the music bringing back youthful memories but I also agree with Helen that today's offering was fairly dire even by recent standards
Why does Mr Swern think that the whole audience is obsessed with listening to obscure imports and B sides when in reality most people want to hear the music they recall from their youth but not necessarily the tracks regularly played on Radio 2 daytime shows
Clive I think really by your comments you made this point in a way and I feel the show should be a dose of nostalgia not an attempt to musically educate listeners over 40 years after the event | But not all as I've said before I like hearing more obscure ones which does go to show "You can't please all of the people all of the time".. |
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Clive55
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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ruddlescat wrote: | I entirely agree with Clive and Colin about some of the music bringing back youthful memories but I also agree with Helen that today's offering was fairly dire even by recent standards
Why does Mr Swern think that the whole audience is obsessed with listening to obscure imports and B sides when in reality most people want to hear the music they recall from their youth but not necessarily the tracks regularly played on Radio 2 daytime shows
Clive I think really by your comments you made this point in a way and I feel the show should be a dose of nostalgia not an attempt to musically educate listeners over 40 years after the event |
You have a point there, Ruddles. But I think a mix of the hits & more obscure tunes makes for a nice mix |
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ruddlescat
Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 18010 Location: Near Chester
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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I agree Clive there should be a good mix but the point I was making was that today I felt the balance was a bit wrong _________________ Are you ready for a Ruddles? |
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Helen May
Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19391 Location: Cheshire
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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The balance was totally wrong today and I'd go as far as saying it's possibly the worst edition of SOTS I've ever heard and I've been listening for a lot of years.
H
PS Clive I'm being nosey now but where did you arrive from in 68? _________________ 88 - 91 FM this is Radio 2 from the BBC!
I said it live on air in the studio with Jeremy Vine on 10/3/2005 |
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RockitRon
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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OK, so what sort of balance do you want?
Putting my pedantic bore's hat on I can tell you that 18 of the 33 tracks played (not including Foot Tapper) made the UK Top 40, and two more between 41 and 50. That proportion obviously doesn't include The Beatles' When I'm 64 either, so that only leaves twelve which could be classed as rarities, B-sides or album tracks.
Of those 18 hits (plus Beatles) I reckon at least twelve are highly likely to be heard at any time during the day on normal Radio 2 shows.
Now I don't know about you, but I don't really want SOTS to be more than half filled with tracks which are already played during the week - that's what's wrong with a lot of JW's Sounds of the Seventies. _________________ Ron
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ruddlescat
Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 18010 Location: Near Chester
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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That's exactly what I said Ron
We should be hearing tracks which we remember from our youth and which were regularly played on radio back in the 60s but not the same ones which get played week in week out on daytime radio
There's no problem with including the odd more obscure track particularly if it stems from a listeners request but Phil Swern should not be using the show for his own personal ego trip which sometimes seems to happen at present _________________ Are you ready for a Ruddles? |
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Schizoidman
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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Helen: I agree, today's SOTS was one of the worst I've ever heard! Too many obscurities, and the hits that were played were all pretty awful.
Yes, as Ruddles says, there should be a better balance. Fewer (and better) obscurities, and more hits. At the moment the show is just a pre 1963 ego trip for the producer.
Conversely JW's SOT70s should concentrate more on obscurities and album tracks. If I hear Brown Sugar, My Sweet Lord or Get It On one more time...... |
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mark occomore
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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Well obviously Bob Shennan isn't picking up on this. He's letting the show go down hill so he can pull it, or move it to another slot. The controller must have different plans for Saturday mornings. |
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RockitRon
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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Schizoidman wrote: | At the moment the show is just a pre 1963 ego trip for the producer.
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That is just not true. It was mentioned on another thread last week as well - it wasn't true then and it was even less so today.
The show ain't broke, and it pulls the biggest audience on Saturday's schedule. Don't fix it, or you'll probably find you'll get Zoe Ball in that slot. _________________ Ron |
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aviddiva
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Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 10:56 am Post subject: Sounds Of The 60s |
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Surely Phil Swern could have included tracks from the new batch of Apple reissues that fell into the back end of the 60's? _________________ We are loonies and we are proud!
- Campbell Bain in 'Takin' Over The Asylum' |
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Clive55
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Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 10:59 am Post subject: |
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Helen May wrote: | The balance was totally wrong today and I'd go as far as saying it's possibly the worst edition of SOTS I've ever heard and I've been listening for a lot of years.
H
PS Clive I'm being nosey now but where did you arrive from in 68? |
Helen, in 1968 we arrived in London from Israel.
I was always a big radio fan. I used to listen to the Israeli radio stations but also to BBC World Service which in those days had quite a few music shows.
I also tuned into Radio Beirut. At that time Lebanon was the one country in the region not involved in any conflicts & was an Oasis of peace. I used to enjoy the Chart shows on radio Beirut which consisted mostly of a mix of English & French pop songs & some of the calmer, more westernised Arabic music |
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Helen May
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Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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That must have been a big change for you Clive. I remember my parents having friends who went to work and live in Beirut when I was a child (we got Christmas cards from them which aroused my curiosity!). I don't know what happened to them but I do remember when I worked for B Caledonian having lots of passengers being stuck due to troubles there in '74.
H _________________ 88 - 91 FM this is Radio 2 from the BBC!
I said it live on air in the studio with Jeremy Vine on 10/3/2005 |
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Clive55
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Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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Helen May wrote: | That must have been a big change for you Clive. I remember my parents having friends who went to work and live in Beirut when I was a child (we got Christmas cards from them which aroused my curiosity!). I don't know what happened to them but I do remember when I worked for B Caledonian having lots of passengers being stuck due to troubles there in '74.
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As a kid I had a desire to visit Lebanon as it seemed atractive to me. As we were near the border with Lebanon it would have been a quick trip, but it was not possible to travel from Israel to Lebanon.
I had thought I could make a trip to Lebanon from England in years to come. But by the seventees the Palkestinian PFLP had been expelled from Jordan after they attempted a take over of Jordan.
They moved to southern Lebanon & proceeded to take over Southern Lebanon which lead to the civil war.
So that Lebanon is gone. Today the spirit of the peaceful & poetic Lebanon of Khalil Gibrani lives more in Israel than in Lebanon |
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Angela W
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Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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I haven't heard SOTS for months, but this week I did (no work) and I thoroughly enjoyed the show. I seem to be out of step with most people on here these days! _________________ Pirate Johnnie Walker played my request on 11 April 2009 |
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SantaFefan
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Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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not with me Angela.. I thought it was a great show! I'll listen again later via my internet radio as I missed the last section.. _________________ Johnnie Walker read out my message on Pirate Radio! 13/8/07
I have heard how radio should be. |
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Angela W
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Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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SantaFefan wrote: | not with me Angela.. I thought it was a great show! I'll listen again later via my internet radio as I missed the last section.. |
Thank you, its nice to know that I am not alone on this one! _________________ Pirate Johnnie Walker played my request on 11 April 2009 |
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Tweed
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Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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Was driving yesterday morning so I heard the show for the first time in a long while and really enjoyed it. As someone who was a child of the 80s and developed a liking to 60s music I didn't know that the Boxtops had more than The Letter. As with every show there were some tracks that did nothing for me but thats the nature of the beast when you covering a decade rather than a genre. |
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John W
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:27 am Post subject: |
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Those of you into SOTS may have seen the SKY ARTS 1 two-hour docu on Donovan which I watched on Sunday morning?
I was never a great fan of Donovan's poetic lyrics and folky songs, I recall my sister bought Catch The Wind. But the docu was fascinating, I had no idea the impact he had made in USA and had no idea the influence/involvement he had with the Beatles, Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page etc. _________________ -
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Clive55
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:45 am Post subject: |
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Angela W wrote: | I haven't heard SOTS for months, but this week I did (no work) and I thoroughly enjoyed the show. I seem to be out of step with most people on here these days! |
I agree with you. I thought it was pretty good |
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gutsygub
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Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:59 am Post subject: |
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what an excellent show this morning, woke up to The Herd (P F my adolescent heart-throb), Barry Ryan (ok so do hear Eloise a lot but think this is the first time I heard it in full) and the excellent Laura Nyro and Blood Sweat & Tears. What a voice David C-T had. |
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ruddlescat
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Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:04 am Post subject: |
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I agree the show was near its best today with plenty of late 60S tracks and less of the usual pre Beatles dross
Loved the Laura Nyro track and enjoyed hearing Barry Ryan's first track which I haven't heard on radio since 1968
The only blot on an otherwise excellent show was Mr Swern including a track which was described as an airplay hit in Pensylvania and some other American state which didn't even make the Billboard chart in America at the time
What on earth was the point in including that as most people in America have probably never heard of it let alone this country
He doesn't seem to be able to avoid indulging his own obsessions but even so the show was the best I've heard for several months so I can live with it although I still find it annoying _________________ Are you ready for a Ruddles? |
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Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:55 am Post subject: |
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It should be remembered that Mr. Swern has what could well be the largest private record collection in the world - and hence the reason why he wants to pull out some obscurities just to remind us of its size.
He recently entrusted the collection to Broadchart - see here: http://www.broadchart.com/physical.htm |
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pd_bmn
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Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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It was my 3 in a row last week after a long time badgering them to play some songs by the duo Hammond/Hazlewood as they never got mentioned despite being close to Cook/Greenaway in terms of late 60s chart success as writers
But Brian sounded totally disinterested in it and Mr Swern had selected an inferior PJ Proby song and Little arrows which i was really hoping would not be played in this feature
I love the obscurities, one can hear all the big hits any other time on many other shows or on oldies station which have no imagination and just play the same old crap in rotation (hey i could rap about this lol) |
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SantaFefan
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Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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Broadcasting to the nation..
Well done in getting your three in a row played.. I had to record it as I was tied up for the morning..
I agree about the obscurities, not all are good but it's nice to hear something different once in a while. That's why I enjoy listening to US Internet radio as they often play slightly different tracks plus some great stuff I've not heard before.
What was the PJ Proby song? _________________ Johnnie Walker read out my message on Pirate Radio! 13/8/07
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aviddiva
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Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:07 pm Post subject: Sounds Of The 60s |
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I think the PJ Proby song was called something like Broken Bottle Street, and it was off the Three Week Hero album. _________________ We are loonies and we are proud!
- Campbell Bain in 'Takin' Over The Asylum' |
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SantaFefan
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I just checked Avid and it was "Broken Bottles"... it didn't sound familiar.
I looked on YouTube and I was right.. a new one on me! I must admit, not a very good one either.. a quick drift over to "Hold Me" cheered me up.. _________________ Johnnie Walker read out my message on Pirate Radio! 13/8/07
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Helen May
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Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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ruddlescat wrote: | I agree the show was near its best today with plenty of late 60S tracks and less of the usual pre Beatles dross
Loved the Laura Nyro track and enjoyed hearing Barry Ryan's first track which I haven't heard on radio since 1968
The only blot on an otherwise excellent show was Mr Swern including a track which was described as an airplay hit in Pensylvania and some other American state which didn't even make the Billboard chart in America at the time
What on earth was the point in including that as most people in America have probably never heard of it let alone this country
He doesn't seem to be able to avoid indulging his own obsessions but even so the show was the best I've heard for several months so I can live with it although I still find it annoying |
Just back after a day away but I loved the 3 in a row today. I think they were all Laura Nyro songs (?) but I missed exactly what Brian said in his intro (we were in the car at the time) I must listen back.
I couldn't agree more about the track (was it one by a girl group who backed Lou Christy?) that was an airplay hit in Pennsylvania It did highlight how some tracks were hits in different parts of the States though.
It was better than last week's but my O/H did say of the last half hour, 'he plays some weird ones these days'!
H _________________ 88 - 91 FM this is Radio 2 from the BBC!
I said it live on air in the studio with Jeremy Vine on 10/3/2005 |
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aviddiva
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 11:33 am Post subject: Sounds of the 60s |
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Does Phil Swern only have the one track by Love - Alone Again Or? I keep wanting them to play Seven & Seven Is or My Little Red Book. _________________ We are loonies and we are proud!
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aviddiva
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 12:07 pm Post subject: Sounds of the 60s |
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Her Royal Majesty (James Darren) could relate to a certain boss I know! _________________ We are loonies and we are proud!
- Campbell Bain in 'Takin' Over The Asylum' |
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aviddiva
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 12:56 pm Post subject: Sounds Of The 60s |
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Navy Blue (Diane Renee) sounds like the kind of song Tracey Ullman would cover in the 80's, as with Lesley Gore's 'You Don't Own Me'.
A pity about the mellotron solo being a wee bit out of key! _________________ We are loonies and we are proud!
- Campbell Bain in 'Takin' Over The Asylum' |
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aviddiva
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:09 pm Post subject: Sounds Of The 60s |
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Ruddlescat, I heard the Tammies song that was allegedly a local hit in Pennsylvania and thought someone was having a laugh - it reminded me of the scene in High Anxiety where Mel Brooks's character is stuck in a car on a rainy night and he turns on the radio to hear a song that consists mainly of a lot of screaming!
Did Phil Swern know the people responsible for the song used in High Anxiety? _________________ We are loonies and we are proud!
- Campbell Bain in 'Takin' Over The Asylum' |
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ruddlescat
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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Avid that thought had not occured to me but now that you come to mention it I can see what you mean
And Yes Helen is correct I think that all the tracks played for Three in a Row were written by Laura Nyro I know Wedding Bell Blues certainly was and I think the second one was as far as I remember _________________ Are you ready for a Ruddles? |
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iwarburton
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This show just goes on delighting!
Neat that the Ray Charles story of his drugs conviction should be followed by his hit Busted.
I don't how the Small Faces' Here Come the Nice ever escaped a BBC ban.
When Michael Winner was on Desert Island Discs about 4 years ago, Billy Fury's Once upon a Dream was one of his choices.
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