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Clive55



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 8:44 am    Post subject: Sounds of the 60s Reply with quote

Listening to Brian Mathews Sounds of the sixtees show. Much better than usual. It is an Eddie Cochran special but also featuring a couple of other rock & roll singers of that era.
Some interesting anecdotes, too. Much better than the show often is. i stopped tuning in after he kept playing the likes of Aadam Faith & other rubbish.
Enjoying todays show. I hope he does more like this. He'd win me back as a regular listener. Excelent
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clive,

If the show is called 'Sounds of the Sixties' then it must feature Adam Faith, Sandie Shaw etc. quite often as they were very popular, maybe more popular and more influential than Eddie Cochran?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John W wrote:
Clive,

If the show is called 'Sounds of the Sixties' then it must feature Adam Faith, Sandie Shaw etc. quite often as they were very popular, maybe more popular and more influential than Eddie Cochran?

I suppose you are right.
I like the others you mention, but find adam Faith a turn off.
Really enjoyed the show this morning
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John, as the last thread now has nearly 300 messages on it, how about if we close that and use this one now (but can we change the spelling to Sixties?).

The tribute to Eddie Cochran was really well done and would be worth repeating on its own on a weekday late evening.

Form the snippets of Saturday Club that we heard, the 'your old mate' valediction was clearly being used back in 1960.

The first hour was pretty good too. Amazed that the Three in a Row items were selected by a young man of 15. Good choice, too, avoiding the most obvious choices by each act. Harper Valley PTA always makes us smile.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

iwarburton wrote:
John, as the last thread now has nearly 300 messages on it, how about if we close that and use this one now (but can we change the spelling to Sixties?).


I won't tell you what I think, other than that there was nothing wrong with continuing with it.

iwarburton wrote:
The tribute to Eddie Cochran was really well done and would be worth repeating on its own on a weekday late evening.

Form the snippets of Saturday Club that we heard, the 'your old mate' valediction was clearly being used back in 1960.

The first hour was pretty good too. Amazed that the Three in a Row items were selected by a young man of 15. Good choice, too, avoiding the most obvious choices by each act. Harper Valley PTA always makes us smile.

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Yes indeed.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree this morning's show was just superb.. completely entertaining.. this is what the likes of Scott just do not appreciate, Brian was "there" and is so good at telling the story and keeping us all interested.... plus he played a favourite of mine "20 Flight Rock"
Yes, I'd like to hear Brian do more shows like this...
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the same as Ron, keep the SOTs one.

Only heard a little of today's show and wasn't really 'with it' as I'm loaded with a head cold, but not a huge fan on Eddie who was just a bit before my time.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

he was beforev my time, too, but i love that music. And Brian evoked that whole scene so well & really brought those people to life.
a superb, well made show.
Also, of course i knew eddie had passed away but I didn't know the details- & it really came as a shock ehen they told of his passing, just as he was finishing the tour in the UK and so keen to get back to see his family
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't mind at all if people would rather keep the existing thread going but wondered if a new one might be tidier. Shall go with the majority! Gillian Reynolds gave the show and Brian a good, if brief, preview in yesterday's Telegraph supplement.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't read the Daily Telegraph, but for a while i was buying it on a tuesday- mostly for Gillian Reynolds radio reviews.
She is the best commentator about Radio i have come across
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are Gillian Reynolds Comments-

This long-running regular, hosted by evergreen Brian Matthew, is Radio 2s most popular (if least publicised) weekend attraction. Todays edition marks the 50th anniversary of the death of Eddie Cochrane, killed in a Wiltshire car accident on April 17, 1960 after the last concert of his historic UK tour (it being the first of its kind in Britain). Matthew, presenter of Saturday Club at the time, lays hands on a rare performance by Cochrane on the show and introduces the memories of friends, fans and fellow musicians (including George Harrison, Joe Brown and members of Cochranes backing band).
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If this thread has to be 'The SOTS Thread', can someone please change the title to reflect the correct name of the show?

If not can this one be closed, and another one be started with the correct show title please?

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorted, I had changed the wrong one. So three threads but let's try and keep this one going Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Usual complimentary comments re today's show. Like the requester, I hadn't heard the Gary Miller track for nearly 50 years. Carol Deene's Norman always strikes me as a perfect vignette of romance in the days before the pill changed some of the rules! Thought it was very instructive to hear the two versions of the Beatles' Yes, It Is and was struck by how insipid the harmony-bereft take sounded.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes It Is is one of the Beatles' weakest B-sides. Haunting, plaintive, maudlin.

The show was OK today. I would never have described Theme One as "hard to get", though. Pigmeat Markham's Here Comes The Judge (used in Rowan and Martin's Love-In,, which I never saw the funny side of) used to be, for a long time, but even that has been rectified.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RockitRon wrote:
Rowan and Martin's Love-In,, which I never saw the funny side of


Veeery interesting... but stupid. Confused
I liked the show back then, specially Dick Martin's character and the hand behind the ear, news announcer "in downtown Burbank".
Didn't record the show today and, as usual when I don't record it - it was great! I must have missed "Here comes the Judge" which was a big favourite of mine..
The Beatles track is another favourite and I just love the way they fade the finished version over the early take on Anthology.. makes me go goosebumps..
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm cracking up: it was Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In, not Love-In (no-one corrected me, though) Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 9:02 am    Post subject: SOTS Reply with quote

Dick Martin was in an episode of 30 Rock as a former scriptwriter recently.
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heeeeeeeeere's Dicky.. Razz

30 Rock looks good from the trailers but I haven't seen it as yet..
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RockitRon wrote:
I'm cracking up: it was Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In, not Love-In (no-one corrected me, though) Laughing


I was just about to post a correction!

"Laugh-in" was the very first TV show I ever saw in colour. Or should that be "color". The quality was appalling (especially after being standards-converted for showing in colour in Europe), as indeed many 1960s US shows were. The networks raced into equipping in colour before the technology was able to deliver good quality. Thankfully, the BBC had good sense to wait and develop better technology.

On the subject of "Yes It Is", I've always loved that song. Lennon's voice is very earthy and heartfelt, and the harmonies were beautiful. Those four young lads from Liverpool had immense talent, the likes of which we have never seen since.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Re Yes, It Is, the finished product is indeed excellent but that seems to be very much the result of its harmonies.

Ian.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:54 am    Post subject: SOTS Reply with quote

Re:Norman. I went to see the film 'Miss Potter', and when Renee Zellweger as Beatrix Potter referred to Norman Warne (Ewan McGregor), the publisher, I'd think of that song!
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Re today's show, loved the anecdote that went with the Crosby, Stills and Nash track. You couldn't make it up.

Thought the Beatles' fan disc version of Yesterday seemed a bit out of place.

Always a treat to hear Alma Cogan and this week was no exception.

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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice to hear 'Fluff' Freeman on this week's A-Z of the Beatles.

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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2010 10:44 am    Post subject: Sounds Of The 60s Reply with quote

When I heard the Archies's 'Scooby Doo' song, I felt it was a bit mean likening a girl to a dog!

Stuart Maconie is very uncomplimentary about 'Sugar Sugar' in 'Cider With Roadies'.
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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2010 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can at last quantify why I like SOTS so much. For two hours I can forget that I'm sixtysomething and be a teenager again without all the accompanying angst. And the presenter is someone who was there with us in my teen days. Hence, the whole is more than the sum of its parts.

After all that, my favourites from today's show were those by the Merseybeats (hopelessly underrated), Mason Williams, Billy Fury and Amen Corner. But the whole show was well up to its usual standard.

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Couldn't agree more. SOTS - with the inimitable and essential Brian Mathew presenting - is much like being wrapped in a lovely thick duvet on a cold, winter's night. The outside world just doesn't matter!

What I particularly like and respect about Brian Mathew is that he was not only an observer of everything that happened musically throughout the 60s but he was right there in the thick of it. Such an insight is unique. That's what makes SOTS so special for me.
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I'm not really sure about feeling a teenager again, but it is the only two hours of radio in the week that I feel any slight regret for if I miss it.

It's not without its foibles, of course, and the pretence, nay, assertion, that, of all the tracks played today, Mason Williams' Classical Gas is "Hard To Get", was ludicrous.

The "Music Played" listing on the BBC Showpage cracks me up as well. Why take the Archies two songs from different sources when they both appear on the same album? And why, when Brian says that "You Know My Name..." was the extended version taken from Anthology, do they specify the single B-side?
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I think there are some big problems with Production - it strikes me that Brian is the only person old enough to have experienced the 60s. I don't get the impression that neither the producer nor production team really know much about the period at all. Some of the gaffes are unforgiveable.

That said, it's still a programme that needs to be cherished. After all, its presenter is getting on a bit now..........
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I understand where Ron is coming from in his remarks but it makes no difference to my overall view.

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To re-energize this show bring in Tony Blackburn asap to host it.

Tony B would be brilliant imho.
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Whilst I do rather like Timmy Bannockburn's style, I don't think he's needed on SOTS for as long as Brian Mathew is in the chair.
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Tony B is doing the 60s on BH Monday or somewhen like that.
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If Brian were to WISH to retire, Tony B would make a good replacement. But I hope Brian will be staying where he is for a long time yet.

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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 12:07 pm    Post subject: Sounds Of The 60s Reply with quote

Had to smile at the Tremeloes' original name; Dean Ford & The Gaylords!

The name now makes me think of the Peep Show episode where Mark confesses to Jeremy that he sang 'I'm a gaylord' to the tune of Madonna's 'Like A Virgin' in a drunken moment!
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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Usual super start to Saturday.

Had I not heard it pre-announced, I could certainly have been fooled into thinking the Knickerbockers track was an obscure Beatles one. Their lead singer sounded more like John Lennon than John Lennon did!

I was initially surprised that anyone could regard Paul and Barry Ryan's Claire as a Playing Hard to Get but investigation on Amazon revealed that the only listed version, from a 2002 Best of...CD, is no longer available.

Smiled at the comments by the requester's father about Easy Beat. Somehow I can't see Brian as a corrupter of the young!

Whatv a lovely warm-hearted tribute to Johnny Dankworth.

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Did the Spencer Davies Group track sound like the Righteous Brothers's 'Little Latin Lupe Lu' to anyone else?
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iwarburton wrote:
Usual super start to Saturday.

Had I not heard it pre-announced, I could certainly have been fooled into thinking the Knickerbockers track was an obscure Beatles one. Their lead singer sounded more like John Lennon than John Lennon did!

I was initially surprised that anyone could regard Paul and Barry Ryan's Claire as a Playing Hard to Get but investigation on Amazon revealed that the only listed version, from a 2002 Best of...CD, is no longer available.

Smiled at the comments by the requester's father about Easy Beat. Somehow I can't see Brian as a corrupter of the young!

Whatv a lovely warm-hearted tribute to Johnny Dankworth.

Ian.


Claire is on that Dutch compilation of Barry Ryan's
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Singles-Barry-Ryan/dp/B0000089LG/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1274537438&sr=1-2
BR Music does not use re-recordings.

Dankworth's African Waltz was a favourite of mine; his big band reading of Art Blakey's Moanin' on the B-side was pretty good too.
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I wonder if What In The World's Come Over You, played in yesterday's programme, is actually the one the requester intended ? No performer was mentioned in his/her letter, by the sound of it, and there was another record with the same name by the Rockin' Berries.
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Early Morning Rain was well played this weekend. SOTS featured Gordon Lightfoot's account and then Good Morning Sunday played Eva Cassidy's version.

Amazing to think that the Solid Silver Sixties show is only just finishing, as Brian said. It seems a long time since we saw the show at Gateshead. Looking forward to the Gold Sixties show in October.

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