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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 11:27 am    Post subject: Sandie Shaw on Wogan Reply with quote

Shocked Shocked

She was never the best singer in the world, but my lord, someone should have stopped that performance shortly after it started. Out of kindness to everybody.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We caught it just as she started "Girl Don't Come" (I think it was) whilst out in the car (can't get Planet Rock on DAB in the car) and my wife immediately turned up the volume.

I thought her voice to be just as good as it ever was - I always loved the purity and vulnerability in her voice and fancied her hugely ever since I first clapped eyes on her on TOTP (when it came live from a converted church in Manchester) wearing no shoes.

In my view, and that of my wife, it was good to hear from her again after all these years.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll be interested to catch this on Listen Again as I always liked Sandie Shaw and yes, I thought she was gorgeous back then too! Razz
I heard her recently and thought she sounded pretty good so I'm curious.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am happily surprised by her performance - lovely voice.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SantaFefan wrote:
I'll be interested to catch this on Listen Again as I always liked Sandie Shaw and yes, I thought she was gorgeous back then too! Razz
I heard her recently and thought she sounded pretty good so I'm curious.

Me too so I went to Listen Again...thought she sounded fine on her older songs but a little flat on the newer one...have always liked Sandie and thought she had less edge to her than some of the performers way back when....and to hear her say her grandchildren.... Shocked but time of course goes on...
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember she put in a fairly creditable performance when she sat in for Brian on SOTS a couple of years ago
As for her Wogan appearance I can't comment as I wouldn't be caught dead listening to that show - even on I player!
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I refuse to listen to Wogan as well so can't comment on her performance.

I first fell for Sandie when she appeared on the cover of Fab 208 magazine in late 1964 at the time of her first hit, Always Something There To Remind Me. I don't think she fancied me though.

Best songs: Girl Don't Come and Monsieur Dupont. Shame about that awful Euro puppet song.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't agree about her not having the best voice. I thought she was one of the best singers of the sixties myself and a favourite of mine. Horrible song, but that vocal on Puppet on a String was flawless - the range she had is phenomenal.

Can't comment on what she sounds like now but in her heyday I thought she was excellent.

Not as good as Dusty mind, but then who is?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Soulsister wrote:
Can't agree about her not having the best voice. I thought she was one of the best singers of the sixties myself and a favourite of mine.


I loved her voice - and today it sounded just as good.

Soulsister wrote:
Not as good as Dusty mind, but then who is?


I was playing "Dusty in Memphis" yet again in the car only yesterday. Hell - that's such a good album. I just can't play it enough. Was she the best white female soul singer of all time? In my opinion she certainly was.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just wondering, do you two like Duffy? I thought she sounded a bit like Dusty...
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did the first couple of times I heard her. Now I can't stand her. Don't think I've ever gone off someone so quick.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SantaFefan wrote:
Just wondering, do you two like Duffy? I thought she sounded a bit like Dusty...


I like Duffy, yes, but not because of any resemblance to Dusty but simply because she's out there working hard at doing her thing and coming out with original material in her own inimitable style.

I find it much more satisifying listening to Dusty Springfield though, especially the kind of stuff that she recorded on "Dusty in Memphis". For instance, "Breakfast In Bed" and "Windmills of Your Mind" are just sublime!
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Duffy's a one trick pony to my ears. Every track the same. Dusty on the other hand could sing the phone book and make it sound good with enormous versatility and could she put emotion into a song? Could she ever! Dusty in Memphis would make a grown man cry - for all the right reasons. I'd put Dusty up there with the greatest singers of all time, black or white - Aretha, Karen Carpenter, Ella etc. Dusty doesn't belong in that company and never will and every live performance I've seen of her is incredibly wooden. She's young I know, but then so was Dusty when she started.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've only got Rockferry by Duffy but I like her voice.
To me, Dusty is a good example of what Soulsister was saying the other day about revisiting an older artiste's material... I've heard possibly all her commercial stuff over the years but very little else, and she's sooo good! Ebay here I come!
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Soulsister wrote:
Duffy's a one trick pony to my ears. Every track the same. Dusty on the other hand could sing the phone book and make it sound good with enormous versatility and could she put emotion into a song? Could she ever! Dusty in Memphis would make a grown man cry - for all the right reasons. I'd put Dusty up there with the greatest singers of all time, black or white - Aretha, Karen Carpenter, Ella etc. Dusty doesn't belong in that company and never will and every live performance I've seen of her is incredibly wooden. She's young I know, but then so was Dusty when she started.
I agree .....fabulous voice.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got Rockferry as well Santa Fe but after the first few plays I lost interest. But it was watching her live that put me off tbh, she sounds a lot better on record. At one time she was on everything and a lot of the performances were very dodgy indeed. Not fair to compare her really with the late, great Dusty. She was a one-off.

This is one of my favourite performances of hers ... and her last ever before she died (see Alison Moyet and Sinead O'Connor on backing vocals). She was something else:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ_omzpxBd4
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Soulsister wrote:
Duffy's a one trick pony to my ears. Every track the same. Dusty on the other hand could sing the phone book and make it sound good with enormous versatility and could she put emotion into a song? Could she ever! Dusty in Memphis would make a grown man cry - for all the right reasons. I'd put Dusty up there with the greatest singers of all time, black or white - Aretha, Karen Carpenter, Ella etc. Dusty doesn't belong in that company and never will and every live performance I've seen of her is incredibly wooden. She's young I know, but then so was Dusty when she started.


The music business is a very different place, now. I like the fact that Duffy is having a go and doing her own thing to the best of her ability and not - unlike so many others - churning out assembly-line, autotuned, bland crap like so many other members of the "Simon Cowell" generation. Whilst she may never rise to the heights that Dusty did, she is at least doing having a go and has stuck it. We shouldn't really knock her for that - and she on the basis of the album material so far she certainly isn't a one trick pony.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I meant one trick pony in terms of her vocal approach to each song she sings Col. There was some strong songwriting on Rockferry but no variation in tone or approach on any of the tracks in terms of how she tackled it vocally.

Duffy comes from the village in North Wales where my parents live, and as well as gigging around the pubs and clubs up there, was a contestant on a Welsh language TV show on S4C - Wawffactor and she was a different singer altogether then and not a great one it has to be said. I don't doubt some footage of it exists somewhere. It was hooking up with Bernard Butler that made the difference and she admits herself that it was Butler who gave her a 'soul education'. He was very much a mentor and it was the collaboration that helped make her successful in terms of songwriting and production. Would she have done it on her own - maybe.

She's got a new album out next month, so I will be interested to hear how she's developed.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a sample of the pre-Butler output:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgvOav30A_0
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't catch Sandy on Terry's show, have to have a listen tomorrow.
I'll join the club in finding her sexy (still)
Regarding Duffy, I tought she was good but that Coke advert put me off as she sounded incredibly squeaky, and does so on her new single too.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:15 am    Post subject: Sandie Shaw on Wogan Reply with quote

When she sat in for Brian Matthew, she played Vashti Bunyan's 'Some Things Just Stick In Your Mind' and said it would have made a great theme song for a movie.

I can believe it! The front cover of the Vashti singles anthology looks like it should be a scene from that imaginary movie; a girl from the outskirts of town trying to make her fortune on Lots Road. A female Billy Liar?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ColinB wrote:
"Dusty in Memphis"
Huey Lewis has just played So Much Love ...she's a class act.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Re Dusty, why oh why is it only on "Tracks Of My Years" or "The Non Stop Oldies" that you ever get to hear her on daytime Radio2?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some Of Your Loving was of course on Tracks Of My Years today, and I Only Want To Be With You was played yesterday morning (on SW's show I think). The trouble I think is that the Radio 2 producers all seem to be 30 somethings and haven't heard a lot of 60s stuff. So it's up to the public to request the right music when they can.

To be fair to Chris Evans (or his producer) he did play Hey Bulldog, Blackbird and Back In The USSR by The Beatles today, so there is some hope!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Schizoidman wrote:
.....and I Only Want To Be With You was played yesterday morning (on SW's show I think).


So, basically, another well-known song rather than something from a fine album like "Dusty in Memphis". Now why am I surprised?

Schizoidman wrote:
To be fair to Chris Evans (or his producer) he did play Hey Bulldog, Blackbird and Back In The USSR by The Beatles today, so there is some hope!


I have those, and more, in my iTunes collection which comes with me everywhere in my iPhone. So I don't really care what Evans plays simply because I won't be listening.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sandie Shaw is the guest on Desert Island Discs this week if anybody is interested...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00wr4hx
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that Becky. I hadn't realised.I used to love Sandie back them. Much better than Lulu or Cilla
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