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mark occomore
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 Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 8:02 pm Post subject: Dermot O'Leary Saturday Show |
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I just wonder if Dermots Saturday shows are live now as the X-Factor has returned to grace our TV screens again?  |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 8:07 pm Post subject: Re: Dermot O'Leary Saturday Show |
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| mark occomore wrote: | | I just wonder if Dermots Saturday shows are live now as the X-Factor has returned to grace our TV screens again? |
No they're not. They're recorded on Thursdays or Fridays, my informer tells me! He needs to be at Fountain, Wembley for rehearsals all day on X-Factory days. |
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mark occomore
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| Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 8:23 pm Post subject: Re: Dermot O'Leary Saturday Show |
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| ColinB wrote: | | mark occomore wrote: | | I just wonder if Dermots Saturday shows are live now as the X-Factor has returned to grace our TV screens again? |
No they're not. They're recorded on Thursdays or Fridays, my informer tells me! He needs to be at Fountain, Wembley for rehearsals all day on X-Factory days. |
I guess like the normal years when I emailed the station a few weeks ago. They didn't no then. |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 8:24 pm Post subject: Re: Dermot O'Leary Saturday Show |
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| mark occomore wrote: | | I guess like the normal years when I emailed him a few weeks ago. They didn't no then. |
Pardon? |
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He seems to regard Radio 2 as a part time job to be fitted in around other things he clearly sees as more worthy of his time.
The network should get rid of him and give a chance to someone who is genuinely interested in making a career on Radio 2
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He said 'I'm not here today' after the first song yesterday plus something about Cher whatshername if I heard correctly. Don't know if this is the norm as I don't normally listen to him. Switched of just afterwards.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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Dermot was "lucky" to escape the witch-hunt a few years back that saw Liz Kershaw suspended. I know for a fact that he's committed the same sins as her but many more times - seems like half his shows are pre-recorded, but only recently has he admitted as much.
I really do think a Saturday afternoon show should interact with the audience. Imagine if POTP read out e-mails of people failing to guess that week's Number 1 - much more fun. It's a shame no-one gets a chance to e-mail Dermot's guests as they can with , say, Ken Bruce's guests. |
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mark occomore
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| Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:50 am Post subject: |
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| ruddlescat wrote: | He seems to regard Radio 2 as a part time job to be fitted in around other things he clearly sees as more worthy of his time.
The network should get rid of him and give a chance to someone who is genuinely interested in making a career on Radio 2 |
What about those others who pre-record there shows. IE SOT60, Brian Matthews could come in on a Saturday and do a live show. It doesn't matter whether it's live or not. |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:10 am Post subject: Dermot O'Leary Saturday show |
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I love the way the shaved monkey said 'I'm not here!' re: his ever so important X-Factor duties!
It reminded me of Robert Duncan as Gus in 'Drop The Dead Donkey' when he wanted the Globelink staff to carry on regardless of him taking notes. 
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| Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:32 am Post subject: |
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Mark with the greatest of respect Brian Matthew is now elderly and might no longer be up for doing a live show and as far as I am aware he does not spend time working for competitor media organisations unlike Mr O'Leary
I have nothing against shows being prerecorded if there is a good reason but when it is done simply to enable already overpaid celebrities to go and earn even more money elsewhere and then they expect to return to Radio 2 live when there is nothing better on offer I'm sorry but to me it stinks
I wouldn't mind so much if he was actually any good on radio but the fact is there are plenty of presenters such as Richard Allinson who could do a much better job on Saturdays as used to be the case
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| Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:25 am Post subject: Re: Dermot O'Leary Saturday Show |
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| mark occomore wrote: | | I just wonder if Dermots Saturday shows are live now as the X-Factor has returned to grace our TV screens again? |
No its not live, in the first few minutes (before I switched it off) he said it wasn't so don't text. |
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| mark occomore wrote: | | What about those others who pre-record there shows. IE SOT60, Brian Matthews could come in on a Saturday and do a live show. It doesn't matter whether it's live or not. |
I can't see any reason why the format of SOT60s should require BM to present the show live to air. It's an entirely different production style to a show like Dermot O'Leary's and is produced in a different way.
Dermot's is pre-recorded for the obvious reason that he's needed elsewhere at weekends between now and Christmas, and this will be in his contract that he can do so. However, his show - which I believe is recorded either on a Thursday or Friday of the same week - will largely be recorded "as live" - that is, from top to bottom only allowing for News and promotion breaks.
However, SOTS doesn't even need to be recorded this way. BM could, if he chose, simply come in to a production studio, sit in front of a mic and lay down his links whilst referring to a script and running order. He doesn't even need to record "as live". The same could be said of Pick of The Pops - Dale could do it the same way (I often suspect that he does though can't be sure).
I think they use ProTools in production, so it would be simple case of dragging and dropping links and music into the timeline and tweaking them a bit.
However, there's much to be said for recording as live because it adds to the sense of pace and rhythm that the presenter can get when they're listening to the tracks they're describing and introducing. It isn't by any means necessary for progs like SOTS and POTPs, though, but it would be much more time-consuming to piece together Dermot's show this way. It's easier to record as live with maybe one or two retakes and trims here and there. |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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| ColinB wrote: | | Dermot's is pre-recorded for the obvious reason that he's needed elsewhere at weekends between now and Christmas, and this will be in his contract that he can do so. |
He's been doing it waaaaay before he started on X-Factor. On at least one occassion he has pre-recorded a show because he's gone to a mate's wedding but still asked for texts and e-mails to be sent in - which members of the production team then created. |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:50 am Post subject: Dermot O'Leary |
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He also has the brass neck to endorse an album of live sessions on commercial stations - it doesn't say if any of them do 'A Nation Once Again' or 'The Sash My Father Wore' (Dermot was waving his Irish Nationalist flag rather too much the week he sat in for Ken Bruce).
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| Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:03 am Post subject: |
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I've no objection to shows being pre-recorded, it makes a change not to have tons of texts read out. It means I get to listen to a presenter's thoughts not those of sometimes mindless listeners.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:06 pm Post subject: point of order |
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Errr...
Even if Dermot O'Dreary was "waving an Irish Nationalist flag", he'd hardly have been likely to have endorsed "The Sash My Father Wore" as this particular ditty comes out of the tradition of the other tribe, the ones who explicitly do not define themselves as Irish Nationalist...
personally I prefer the Stockport County terrace version, the one that goes
"It was won at Hull and Chesterfield
And in Hull in days of yore
It is blue and white and lovely
It's the scarf my father wore!"
(Don't ask how a sectarian Irish song ended up being taken up by a northern English footie team with no obvious links with Irish terrorism of either kind - we're not Glasgow Rangers even if we play in blue and white - but the original lyrics have certainly been defused!)
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The live album referred to is presumably this one
taken from sessions on the show.
I don't get to hear it very often. Dermot is not the clearest of radio presenters and you could say he's too chummy with everyone - that's just how he is I think. At least you can't accuse him of shouting.
His persona and looks have made him a natural for television - my wife likes him - and the word seems to be that he's shortly off to America to host Simon Cowell's X-Factor over there, so I suspect that his extra-curricular radio hobby days might be numbered.
It is the one relatively "young" and contemporary show in a day when those at the blunt end of the station's audience are well cared for. I'll let someone else speculate who might fill his boots at the helm.
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| RockitRon wrote: | | It is the one relatively "young" and contemporary show in a day when those at the blunt end of the station's audience are well cared for. I'll let someone else speculate who might fill his boots at the helm. |
Richard Madeley? |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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| RockitRon wrote: | | It is the one relatively "young" and contemporary show in a day when those at the blunt end of the station's audience are well cared for. I'll let someone else speculate who might fill his boots at the helm. |
That's definitely one for Chris Evans who, I'm sure, has a bit of spare time. The BBC needs to get their money's worth out of him, after all. |
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I don't go out of my way to listen to DO, but in a car that argues over Radio1 (OH) and R2 (Me) it does give me an argument towards R2 as the playlist is more to my liking (mostly)
I am of a similar age (i'm maybe a touch older), he talks about stuff that
I know about rather than much older, for a few hours on a Saturday after 60's and POTP it's a jolt up to date.
Some of the bands he champions are maybe a little bit new for the daytime playlist.
but like others on here his
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Apart from Dermot who has a job to do on Saturday Night with X-Factor, if you call it a job . At least those who Pre-record there shows can spend time with there familes, etc at the weekends - instead of interacting live with there listeners  |
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They are not being paid out of the BBC licence fee to spend time with their families
They're being paid to be there and do the job properly and if they cannot comply they should be sacked just like any ordinary person would be if they failed to attend their place of employment when required
Why do people constantly make excuses for them!
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| Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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| mark occomore wrote: | | Apart from Dermot who has a job to do on Saturday Night with X-Factor, if you call it a job . |
It looks easy until things go wrong in front of millions of viewers. Then it's a job that I wouldn't want for all the tea in China.
| mark occomore wrote: | | At least those who Pre-record there shows can spend time with there familes, etc at the weekends - instead of interacting live with there listeners |
Interacting? Does that mean reading emails and texts? I think I'd prefer most presenters to pre-record, in that case. I'm fed up with the so-called "interactive" input from listeners! |
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| I tried to listen to his show today, its no better and he said that 'we' weren't old enough to go to concerts in the 80s, what age groupo does he think listen to R2 ? |
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Dermot gabbles on a bit sometimes, and he can be difficult to hear sometimes, but I guess it makes a change from other radio 2 shows in which we're shouted at and treated like kids by the presenter!
Perhaps Dermot could do the 6.30-9.30am weekdays slot? |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 10:02 am Post subject: Dermot O'Leary Saturday show |
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Sorry AgProv! I still think he's got a brass neck to flog the compilation on another channel.
It's like 'Peter Griffin Presents The King & I, A Peter Griffin Production' in the Family Guy episode where Peter disrupts the Quahog Community Players's show which Lois is meant to be directing!
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| Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:16 am Post subject: |
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Mr O'Leary's only interest is looking after his own position
He is a totally hopelessly bad presenter and should be removed from the network forthwith - or even sooner if possible 
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Perhaps Dermot could do the 6.30-9.30am weekdays slot? |
No way He stood in for Ken B once, that was enough |
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| Dermot will be taking 5 weeks off from the 5th November and Zoe Ball is covering. I can see her getting the show, with Richard Madeley taking over Zoe weekend show. |
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| mark occomore wrote: | | Dermot will be taking 5 weeks off from the 5th November and Zoe Ball is covering. I can see her getting the show, with Richard Madeley taking over Zoe weekend show. |
I can see Zoe taking over Richard's slot and then Richard taking over Dermot's after Zoe has finished covering for Bob Harris next February. Bob will, of course, be covering for Mike Harding when he moves to breakfast in order to present the new "Morning Mike Club". |
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I find that Dermot O'Leary is intolerable, highly irritating. I was not surprised to learn that he is involved in that Chavy X factor rubbish
Radio 2 need something like the old Saturday Sequence that Roger Scott used to do on Saturday afternoons
Gambo would be ideal as host |
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| Clive55 wrote: | Radio 2 need something like the old Saturday Sequence that Roger Scott used to do on Saturday afternoons
Gambo would be ideal as host |
So would Johnnie Walker, who did the original one for Radio One as it happens. |
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| ColinB wrote: | | Clive55 wrote: | Radio 2 need something like the old Saturday Sequence that Roger Scott used to do on Saturday afternoons
Gambo would be ideal as host |
So would Johnnie Walker, who did the original one for Radio One as it happens. |
As Johnnie mentioned last night during his live stand-up show!!
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I heard the whole DO Show this week while working on the house and apart from a little too much waffle I thought it was ok.
Some of the music was really good.
Guess I'm on my own then
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| Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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| I suppose it will come to head if Dermot signs for X-Factor US, then that would probarly be it at Radio 2. |
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Oh I really hope so 
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| Thats clever of Dermot asking for listeners to follow him on twitter whilst he's not live. |
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| mark occomore wrote: | | Thats clever of Dermot asking for listeners to follow him on twitter whilst he's not live. |
Why? David Dimpleby does it on Question Time and that's not live either. |
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Very gay afternoon listening to Gok wan and Dermot. He was making Dermot blush.  |
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