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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 4:56 pm    Post subject: The auction for things for those with loads of money can buy Reply with quote

It should be banned Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I entirely agree
Luckily I don't listen to Radio 2 on a Sunday
Nevertheless I expect we'll be stuck with CIN related matters all week
Time to retune to Smooth me thinks and not just for breakfast Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well said. Surely all these rich people can afford a computer and do some kind of eBay style auction instead of having Wogan (as lovely as he is) playing auctioneer.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I avoided it on my drive back from Devon today.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not enjoying Jodie Prenger on with Paul O'G tonight either. Just witter, witter, witter. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Enjoyed Johnnie Walker in his slot, thought he did it really well.

Had a request as well for a good friend who is a great JW fan.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Helen May wrote:
Enjoyed Johnnie Walker in his slot, thought he did it really well.

Had a request as well for a good friend who is a great JW fan.

H


I heard that! He mentioned you were a famous R2 listener or something to that effect!

I've only had a couple of things read out on air in the past, both under pseudonyms! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I concur with the original post.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've avoided R2 all day, though looking at the playlist for JW's prog I see that someone requested a Led Zeppelin song: 'Stair....' yes, you've guessed which one.

Have the masses no sense of originality? Still, it's all for charidee, mate.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eric Shone wrote:
Helen May wrote:
Enjoyed Johnnie Walker in his slot, thought he did it really well.

Had a request as well for a good friend who is a great JW fan.

H


I heard that! He mentioned you were a famous R2 listener or something to that effect!

I've only had a couple of things read out on air in the past, both under pseudonyms! Very Happy


Don't know how he thought that! Laughing

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Schizoidman wrote:
I've avoided R2 all day, though looking at the playlist for JW's prog I see that someone requested a Led Zeppelin song: 'Stair....' yes, you've guessed which one.

Have the masses no sense of originality? Still, it's all for charidee, mate.


Interestingly, Johnnie did play a few requests off his laptop because "the Radio 2 system doesn't have them" so fair do's for trying... but surely "the Radio 2 system" should have loads of options? tsk.

Also liked the little dig from Steve Harley about getting booted off Sounds of the 70s for Walker.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Evans was doing the same this morning.

I would imagine 95% of the Radio 2 audience feel totally alienated, by said auctions. Obviously the recession has not hit those at Radio 2 Towers.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Evans was doing the same this morning.

I would imagine 95% of the Radio 2 audience feel totally alienated, by said auctions. Obviously the recession has not hit those at Radio 2 Towers.


and they have the cheek to say those who can't afford to take part can pay £1.50 to enter a raffle to win a ticket to a party Rolling Eyes

Why not make the party only for raffle winners ? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The £1.50 raffle- could go two ways. It could be a good thing- it could be a not so good thing.

If they make zillions from the £1.50 raffle, that would be a good thing but it will make the auctions look like a ridiculous self-indulgence, which they sort of are, really.
A few very wealthy people trying to outbid each other to spend a day with this person or that person- it’s not pretty.

If the £1.50 raffle is a big flop, which would be a not so good thing, then it sort of justifies the auctions but only in the money making sense.

There’s a danger of the £1.50 raffle winners feeling like token “poor people” at the event, especially if they are identified at the event. “Raffle Winner’s Table?” Oh! It’s over at the back. Or worse, at the front.

It’s a mad, bad, sad and brilliant idea all in one and when you pull the pin, any one of those could go off big style. How exciting!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There’s a danger of the £1.50 raffle winners feeling like token “poor people” at the event, especially if they are identified at the event. “Raffle Winner’s Table?” Oh! It’s over at the back. Or worse, at the front.


And a bit of forelock tugging no doubt!
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Rachel wrote:
The £1.50 raffle- could go two ways. It could be a good thing- it could be a not so good thing....
There’s a danger of the £1.50 raffle winners feeling like token “poor people” at the event, especially if they are identified at the event. “Raffle Winner’s Table?” Oh! It’s over at the back. Or worse, at the front.

How exciting!


How many winners will there be ? did he say ? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nod wrote:
Rachel wrote:
The £1.50 raffle- could go two ways. It could be a good thing- it could be a not so good thing....
There’s a danger of the £1.50 raffle winners feeling like token “poor people” at the event, especially if they are identified at the event. “Raffle Winner’s Table?” Oh! It’s over at the back. Or worse, at the front.

How exciting!


How many winners will there be ? did he say ? Rolling Eyes


I think it's just one winner, Nod, but winning a table for - two. Two tickets.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kengeo wrote:
Evans was doing the same this morning.

I would imagine 95% of the Radio 2 audience feel totally alienated, by said auctions. Obviously the recession has not hit those at Radio 2 Towers.


I heard it for the first time this morning and I do.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I heard it for the first time this morning and I do.


Are you sure you weren't listening to news of the Royal Wedding Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you have to set aside the feelings of envy against the people with seemingly deep pockets who bid and win all the special and celebrity stuff in the auction. Console yourself with the knowledge that, in market terms, they're overpaying handsomely for that dinner with Sarah Kennedy or spin with Stig and that all the proceeds are going to a British children's charity which would, were it not for such largesse by wealthy people and big business, raise a tiny fraction of the figure that is achieved.

I'm not really bothered with auctions and raffles, the chance of winning ranks somewhere with that of being struck by lightning anyway; I'm happy to donate what I feel is appropriate and affordable. Do so likewise, or not at all, if you don't want to. Just don't bleat about it.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the last year I have given approximately 6 days of my professional time to a charity that has helped my family greatly. It isn't all about coughing up loads of cash - something I remind those who rattle collecting buckets under my nose down at the pub at this time of year.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do so likewise, or not at all, if you don't want to. Just don't bleat about it.


I agree, and do contribute, but I'm really not interested in what people are paying so suck up to Mr Evans and his well off mates, who maybe offer such items just to ease their consciences.

Are those who are paying silly amounts really care about the charity, or is it just to massage their egos?

Radio is for entertainment (I use that term loosely in Evans case) , and as I stated in a previous post, most listeners just ain't interested in the auctions, which are just plain boring and excluding.

Whilst CIN is a worthy cause, are there not other charities that are just as worthy?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RockitRon wrote:
I think you have to set aside the feelings of envy against the people with seemingly deep pockets who bid and win all the special and celebrity stuff in the auction. Console yourself with the knowledge that, in market terms, they're overpaying handsomely for that dinner with Sarah Kennedy or spin with Stig and that all the proceeds are going to a British children's charity which would, were it not for such largesse by wealthy people and big business, raise a tiny fraction of the figure that is achieved.

I'm not really bothered with auctions and raffles, the chance of winning ranks somewhere with that of being struck by lightning anyway; I'm happy to donate what I feel is appropriate and affordable. Do so likewise, or not at all, if you don't want to. Just don't bleat about it.


Well said Ron!

I know someone who did bid and won something to do with Sarah Kennedy a few years ago. She ran her own business and even when we were at school the father was always giving large sums to charity, and supporting the school. There just happen to be some generous wealthy people around.

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I know someone who did bid and won something to do with Sarah Kennedy a few years ago. H


In my book they 'won' nothing, they simply bought it Rolling Eyes
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There just happens to be some generous wealthy people around.


No doubt, thankfully so, but I prefer it when they don't tell all and sundry and keep it quiet.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I may have said before a person who gives to charity out of genuine motives does so anonymously and in private
People who take part in so called charity auctions are doing it for the wrong reasons so they look good to their friends and can show off the fact they are apparently rich
Celebrities do not help either
Instead of hassling ordinary people to part with their hard earned cash they should give away some of their own millions but I don't see much sign of it happening
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What a load of grumps! Thank heaven for wealthy people who give large sums to charity, whether anonymously or not. I have mega rich people in my family (obviously not me) who are very generous to family, friends and charities Smile
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The people who can't afford the big auction items were able to ring a premium rate number costing £1.50 which £1.10 goes to CIN. This could cost more from mobiles, standard geographic charges apply. This is for a table at Chris Evans Dine and Disco. Just thinking more of a chance for CIN to make money.
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mark occomore wrote:
This is for a table at Chris Evans Dine and Disco.


I'll hold on to my money then!
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I had to endure a section of the Breakfast show as I trundled off to the Plumbing supply... Evans and some toff banging on and on about Ferrari's and huge sums of money.. it just doesn't seem right to me..
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really can't see the problem people have towards people making large bids on the auction.
It makes loads of money for CIN and the people who make the bids get a great day that they couldn't get otherwise.
I'm only on £7 an hour and don't feel resentment towards people who have made money in life, good luck to them. I know I would bid if I was loaded.
Also like the fact that not just one person wins the bid this year which I think is a lot better than previous years.
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It is an odd world where someone who wins the lottery is an instant hero but someone who works hard to make a few million is a hate figure but there it is. Odd. Giving to charity is good, I don’t care where the money comes from but the money is just a tiny part of the whole charity package, you could, if there were enough charitable people and organisations around, run a charity without any money at all. The money is used to buy products and services from people and organisations that aren’t charitable in any way at all- cos they want paying for everything , that’s why charities need money but even the biggest heap of money in the world is worthless without the people to put it good use.

It would make a lot more money for CIN if every bid for the auction was donated to CIN, not just the winning bids, surely if you’re happy to bid £90K for a day playing Golf, you’d be happy to give £80K and have a really nice holiday for yourself with the other £10K – stuff the Golf.
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I really can't see the problem people have towards people making large bids on the auction.


My problem is I want to listen to R2 not this awful auction for a minority which excludes the vast majority of the listeners / population Rolling Eyes

People can do what they want with their money but I don't want to listen to it. Rolling Eyes
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It would make a lot more money for CIN if every bid for the auction was donated to CIN, not just the winning bids, surely if you’re happy to bid £90K for a day playing Golf, you’d be happy to give £80K and have a really nice holiday for yourself with the other £10K – stuff the Golf.


That's an interesting question , would they be prepared just to give the losing bids away ? Rolling Eyes

As for instant heroes I don't understand how someone can become a celeb and instantly be adored, worshipped and the font of all knowledge just by being a celeb Rolling Eyes
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nod wrote:
Rachel wrote:
It would make a lot more money for CIN if every bid for the auction was donated to CIN, not just the winning bids, surely if you’re happy to bid £90K for a day playing Golf, you’d be happy to give £80K and have a really nice holiday for yourself with the other £10K – stuff the Golf.


That's an interesting question , would they be prepared just to give the losing bids away ? Rolling Eyes

As for instant heroes I don't understand how someone can become a celeb and instantly be adored, worshipped and the font of all knowledge just by being a celeb Rolling Eyes


That’s an interesting question, Nod. I guess some would, some wouldn’t. The poor people have no choice though, they pay £1.50 to try to win but if they don’t win they still pay £1.50. The rich people promise to pay whatever it is, but if they don’t win, they can pay nothing and just walk away, it’s a bit like the rich can go to the bookies put on bet but only give the bookie the stake if their horse wins. It would be more interesting if the rich people made a donation, and if their donation, was the highest, they win the prize/experience or whatever it is.

Instant TV celebrity is the underlying reason for so many established TV personalities moving over to radio. It’s so easy to become “famous” on TV, being good at karaoke or poor at it in some cases on X Factor or being a loudmouth dickhead on Big Brother – there’s so many trashy reality TV programmes each spawning their own breed of celebrities, the newspapers are full of them, all getting coverage at the same level – there’s no distinction between an overnight flash in the pan celebrity and a proper one- the press treat them with equal adulation or distain as the case merits. Radio is the last hiding place for professional broadcasters – they day the first reality radio show goes out, we may as well push the big red button and destroy the Human Race.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The whole paying even if you don't win seems a bit harsh, but maybe having a system similar to that of "madbid" where you have to pay money just to bid would be appropriate. Let's say (since they're all paying tens of thousands) each bid costs £50, and "only" £25 if you bid again on the same item, having been outbid. That'd probably stop "the peasants" putting in early bids of under a thousand Laughing

Best solution for all concerned: on-line auctions - no alienated listeners, and the rich still get to throw their money away.
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How do you know there are so many alienated listeners Eric?

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Just think what a difference some of our Premiership footballers could make if they donated a months "hard earned" wages.

That would be £1M from Wayne Rooney, who, as far as I can make out has done nothing since before the World Cup apart from paying over the odds - so I understand - for a romp with a prostitute.

CIN has been fairly low key this year and that, thankfully, is the only good thing to come out of TW's Breakfast Show departure.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whilst it might have been low key, it was still rather nauseating to hear CE banging on about someone "only" being £401 short of possibly winning a place.

People on minimum wage don't even earn that a week and for the rest of us "normal" people, with cuts looming and belts inevitably being tightened, with many no doubt losing their jobs, well, it left a nasty taste in my mouth.

In fact, this year I've decided not to donate any money to CIN at all, and will pass what I'd intended to shell out to a much smaller, possibly as equally deserving but definitely not as well-advertised charity. And I'll feel as though I'm achieving much more than entering into the money-fest that CIN seems to have become.
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