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Andy W



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:01 pm    Post subject: Desmond Carrington's Iconic Fifties Reply with quote

A new 6-part Tuesday night series starting in January featuring "stars whose records were first heard during the Fifties via Radio Luxembourg and the BBC Light Programme".
Guesting on each programme is Teddy Johnson who I've not heard on the station since he presented the Saturday 10am to noon slot back in either the late 70s or early 80s.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like to record some of these, particularly the Frankie Vaughan programme... what a character he was! It was great to hear "Tower of Strength" on SOTS last week.. I used to love the Saxophones on that 78 record... powerful or what?
Teddy Johnson?.. is he of the Teddy Johnson & Pearl Carr I remember?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SantaFefan wrote:
Teddy Johnson?.. is he of the Teddy Johnson & Pearl Carr I remember?

The one and the same. He's now either 90 or 91 years old depending on the source. He was the first presenter of Luxembourg's Top Twenty in 1948.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that Andy. It should be a really good series.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll be listening and good to see some 50's music being featured.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SantaFefan wrote:
I'd like to record some of these, particularly the Frankie Vaughan programme... what a character he was! It was great to hear "Tower of Strength" on SOTS last week.. I used to love the Saxophones on that 78 record... powerful or what?
Teddy Johnson?.. is he of the Teddy Johnson & Pearl Carr I remember?

I have a question. I know we can Listen Again for a certain period but is there any way to record either live radio shows or listen again radio shows to keep for posterity? There are a number I would like to, as I used to do on Cassette.
Is this p;ossible & if so how can it be don e?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Helen and Colin will have better ideas on the technical front Clive but if you can receive a good DAB signal I'd strongly recommend buying a DAB radio with a recording facility...

My own is a Roberts unit which I can honestly say is superb, both in it's usefulness and performance.

It really is nice to be able to simply flick through the in built "Programme Guide" and select the shows you'd like to record and let the timer do it's thing.

Of course, once the show is on the little memory card.. ( the Roberts will take up to 2Mb ) it can be removed, placed in the PC and the shows transferred over to the PC hard drive or, a CD/DVD to keep...

I haven't worked it out properly but I believe a 2Mb card will record about 30 hours of radio..

The Roberts DAB radio with recording facility is one of the best things I've ever bought...
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SantaFefan wrote:
Helen and Colin will have better ideas on the technical front Clive but if you can receive a good DAB signal I'd strongly recommend buying a DAB radio with a recording facility...

My own is a Roberts unit which I can honestly say is superb, both in it's usefulness and performance.

It really is nice to be able to simply flick through the in built "Programme Guide" and select the shows you'd like to record and let the timer do it's thing.

Of course, once the show is on the little memory card.. ( the Roberts will take up to 2Mb ) it can be removed, placed in the PC and the shows transferred over to the PC hard drive or, a CD/DVD to keep...

I haven't worked it out properly but I believe a 2Mb card will record about 30 hours of radio..

The Roberts DAB radio with recording facility is one of the best things I've ever bought...

Thanks Santa fe. I have DAB radios all over the house but none with recording facilities. I'll check that out. Cheers!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clive55 wrote:
I have a question. I know we can Listen Again for a certain period but is there any way to record either live radio shows or listen again radio shows to keep for posterity? There are a number I would like to, as I used to do on Cassette.
Is this p;ossible & if so how can it be don e?


Yes, I do it all the time and have done ever since I got myself onto broadband about 10 years ago.

If you're using a Windows PC, then download a free program called Audacity which is a very good quality sound recorder. You can set it up to record whatever is going through your computer's soundcard, and is much better than other equivalent (paid-for) apps because you have a professional standard of control over recording levels, etc.

The only bit you need to think about is to ensure that the actual recording level is correct - not too low but also not too high ("in the red") but once you have set this up then simply hit the Red button and leave it record. When you click the Stop button it will then save the data to a location of your choice - eg: a folder you've created to save the files in.

Having done this, you can then open the file and perform any editing, top-&-tail trims etc and save it as a WAV file (the best option on PCs). Having done so, you can then also convert it to MP3 in order to import into iTunes etc before synching it with an iPod, Touch, iPhone or other MP3 player.

The other nice thing about Audacity (part from the fact that it's totally free) is that it can be used on Apple Macs as well. I use a Mac for all audio and video work but although I have Audacity installed I use professional sound production tools to do my digitising and editing. However, they all use the same principles as Audacity.

Interestingly, a college has asked me to produce some "how to" screencasts (which I'll make available as video podcasts) on how a beginner can get started with Audacity so I may ask one or two people here to be test guinea-pigs!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanksw, Collin. I will have a go at that
I am not good at technology
A couple of questions
What is a WAV file & how do I convert it to an MP3?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clive most software does it for you, it's as easy as clicking on a button on the screen.

I think a WAV file is what is generally used as on a CD etc...and it has much more information in it and that also means it takes up much more space...whereas an mp3 file is smaller and they say it loses some data to be smaller in size but Colin will know much more about this than me.

I have tried Audacity and never got away with it...it was ok doing the initial recording but no matter how I tried or it was explained to me I could never download and use the extra stuff needed to turn any recording into an mp3 file.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A WAV file has the same info on it but it's not compressed. The sound quality can suffer but there are different levels of compression.

I use Total Recorder as it was recommended by someone who is/was a member on here. It cost about 6 at the time and I can honestly say it's the best 6 I've ever spent! I found it extremely easy to use. Audacity I tried afterwards just to see as it's well known but couldn't get the hang of it. Maybe I need to approach it differently!

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clive55 wrote:
Thanksw, Collin. I will have a go at that
I am not good at technology
A couple of questions
What is a WAV file & how do I convert it to an MP3?


A WAV (which is short for "WAVE" and is denoted by the file extension ".wav") is an uncompressed audio file as generated by a software audio recorder, predominantly on Windows PCs and some Linux applications.

On Apple Macs, the equivalent format is "AIFF" which is denoted by the file extension ".aif" or ".aiff". They're pretty much the same, but AIFF is driven by Quicktime's engine room.

MP3 is a representation of "MPEG1 Layer 3" and involves a compression of the data to enable it to be contained within a smaller file space and to travel faster over connecting lines (like the internet).

Podcasts use MP3 as their basis, as described by Apple standards, and are the standard means by which portable audio devices store lots of music in a small space. That's why you can store up to 14 CDs worth of music (as MP3) on a single 650MB CD disc without a perceptible degradation in quality (to the untrained ear at least).

One thing most people don't realise is that iTunes, which can be freely installed on PCs as well as Apple Macs, is a very good WAV or AIFF to MP3 converter in addition to being a great audio and video file manager.

All you have to do is to import a file into iTunes and tell it to convert to MP3. However, there are lots of other freebie apps out there on the interweb.

I use an application called Apple Compressor 3 - but that's very expensive!

I'm currently producing some video podcasts for a college on how first-year media students can get started with Audacity. Would anybody here be interested in using them?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Great Gildersleeve wrote:
I have tried Audacity and never got away with it...it was ok doing the initial recording but no matter how I tried or it was explained to me I could never download and use the extra stuff needed to turn any recording into an mp3 file.


It is tricky but basically you download a file called 'lame' and put it in a relevant folder, even the Audacity folder, doesn't matter.

Next time you use Audacity 'Save As' mp3 and it will ask you where the 'lame' is. When you've shown the location that's it done, all future mp3's are automatically saved. mp3's are usually 10% of the size of a wav.


ColinB wrote:
... video podcasts for a college on how first-year media students can get started with Audacity. Would anybody here be interested in using them?


I might be.

I've used Audacity for years for audio restoration. After I've used my 'expensive' software for noise reduction I use Audacity for manually removing/clipping out residual clicks from vinyl and 78's, and saving wavs as mp3, and for compiling 10 tracks, and my in-between voice-tracks, as podcasts. De-clicking - cutting out clicks up to 0.01secs length usually has no noticeable (audible) effect on play back.

The Audacity version I have right now is 1.2.6. which has several new tools compared to the early versions. I don't use the new tools as I do not want to alter the original music on the sound file (other than maybe treble or bass which I've adjusted on the other software). On Audacity I only use 'silence' for start/end of tracks, 'generate silence' for separation of my voice bits, Amplify for some sort of consistency in the tracks' and my voice's loudness, and I convert channels to mono or stereo when required.

I sometimes use the 'change speed' tool - when I have a warped 78 I play it at 45 and then change the speed of the sound file Smile

So, I probably don't want to use these new tools 'effects' (Compressor, Equalisation, Filters, Echo, Bass Boost etc. The Noise Removal tool is too harsh and I don't need it anyway as I use Algorithmix).

If your podcast explains what some of the tools do then I might find a use. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John W wrote:
I sometimes use the 'change speed' tool - when I have a warped 78 I play it at 45 and then change the speed of the sound file


Interestingly, that's one of the very first things I did with a digital audio editor application I transferred some of my Dad's 75rpm discs on a turntable that only facilitated 45 and 33 rpm using the same technique.

John W wrote:
So, I probably don't want to use these new tools 'effects' (Compressor, Equalisation, Filters, Echo, Bass Boost etc. The Noise Removal tool is too harsh and I don't need it anyway as I use Algorithmix).


I probably won't go that far, John. I'm thinking primarily of "beginners basics" - ie: capture, simple edit, save as, convert to mp3, etc. It depends on what's needed by my client, however, so you never know!

I'll be creating an iTunes podcast feed and then just adding them as I make them.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ColinB wrote:
I'm currently producing some video podcasts for a college on how first-year media students can get started with Audacity. Would anybody here be interested in using them?


I'd be interested Colin as I found it complicated to use but haven't touched it for some time so it would need to be very much for a beginner.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ColinB wrote:


I'm currently producing some video podcasts for a college on how first-year media students can get started with Audacity. Would anybody here be interested in using them?


I would be interested too please. (I have only had one success with Audacity and ended up with a different problem, still unsolved!)
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did try out recording with audacity but I found that it was recording songs from the room as well as the radio programb
What do I do to make sure it just records what I want it to (ie the radio show or whatever audio is playing on my laptop?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interestingly, I don't use Audacity to record online streams on my PCs, instead prefering to do this using an application on my main Apple Mac which makes the job much easier. Audacity is used (on Windows) only to record direct from microphones and via a USB analogue-to-digital converter. I do use it to perform simple editing when I'm elsewhere (eg: interviews, etc) but even then only quick trims etc.

Another problem with many laptops and PCs is that they use a variety of soundcards; some mic inputs can't handle a line-level input and some can't be switched to record the sound coming through the soundcard ("stereo mix"), which makes web stream recording difficult. If a computer, laptop or notebook has a built-in mic and webcam that can get in the way, too (as you've discovered, Clive55).

If I do need to capture an audio stream on my laptop I use one program to record the stream and another to edit.

I'm currently creating video tutorials on this subject for a client so I'll provide more info when I've done them.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vista/Windows 7 does have a built in sound recorder, hit the speaker icon bottom right, hit Mixer, Applications then recording.

Goldwave is a good free download also for manipulating the files.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kengeo wrote:
Vista/Windows 7 does have a built in sound recorder, hit the speaker icon bottom right, hit Mixer, Applications then recording.


It isn't very good, though. It's OK as a first line option but there are many better options.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a frequent user of Audacity as I can use it for recording Radio 2 shows, either from the iPlayer or through the line-in option in XP (I have my Freeview box connected to the PC for that); when I do that I just save as MP3.

But its also suitable for pre-recording and/or editing the interviews I use in my own radio shows, either through the microphone input or importing the files on my digital recorder.

I started using it in 2006 with no previous knowledge of audio editing or what the different file types meant and have learnt to use it with next to no help!

I actually have been using the 1.3 Beta version for the last 6 months, the interface of which is essentially the same, with some of the features improved slightly.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clive55 wrote:
I did try out recording with audacity but I found that it was recording songs from the room as well as the radio programb
What do I do to make sure it just records what I want it to (ie the radio show or whatever audio is playing on my laptop?


That happened to me and then I realised that Audacity was set to mic instead of cd or stereo mix!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been using Total Recorder for about 5 years now. It was recommended in the Sunday Times (I think) and as Helen says requires just a one-off licence payment.

Have only just started to use Audacity in the last year so just used the basics but I'd like to gets to grips with mixing more than one track so any tips welcome Colin.
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It starts tonight. I'm so looking forward to it.
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