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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:40 am    Post subject: The builders are here! Reply with quote

Today is concrete-pouring day. It's taken two-weeks to trench-out the foundations and complete the other ground-work. I've arranged ladies that lunch here at home today - so we can watch the concrete going in. yesterday I was allowed to have a go in a little mini JCB digger thing- it was cool-beans! Only two-weeks in out of 24: so far (I'm counting)I've made 120 cups of tea and they've gone through 8 packs of chunky choccy hob-nobs, 6 packs of mini Danish Pastries and 30 sausage rolls.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing
Blimey, they'll be wasting away on those rations.
Where's the all-day-breakfast butties and blueberry muffins?
120 cups of tea? Hopefully not the best china.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry if I've missed it elsewhere but what are the builders doing Rachel?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have this 'pleasure' to come soon, we are having our kitchen refitted, oh the joy! Confused
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We're having an extension, Helen... it's a little disruptive and messy... but fun at the moment. A few pictures of the very rare moments so far, when the builders aren't drinking tea, leaning on shovels, talking about the football, eating pasties, playing with our dog, having a proper tea break/ lunch break or sat in their hut because it's raining.







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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah I see! What a lovely looking house you have Rachel. Is it a kitchen extension? How long have they estimated?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toggy wrote:
We have this 'pleasure' to come soon, we are having our kitchen refitted, oh the joy! Confused


Toggy I'm contemplating the same, but keep putting it off.............

We had an awful time (wrong measurements, conflict between the installer and his chap, nothing to do with us) when it was done 20 years ago and I think 'oh well it's not that bad', but it needs doing!

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Helen May wrote:
Ah I see! What a lovely looking house you have Rachel. Is it a kitchen extension? How long have they estimated?

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Thanks Smile A new garage on the side, a utility room behind that, an extension to the kitchen next to that, and a new room behind the lounge, then upstairs, 2 new bedrooms and three new bathrooms but some of that is going where things are already - there's a lot of knocking-out to do inside. They reckon it will be finished on December 18th. I'll post update phots as it takes shape. They're going to let me lay the first brick this afternoon.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cor, a proper building site, though it looks quite tidy.
I bet the neighbours are pleased Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow that is some extension, but I'm sure it will be worth it. Have you lived there long?

I'd love to redesign the upstairs of our house!

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We've been here 10 years, Helen- this is the second major work we've had done, when we moved in ( I was just a lodger then), it was all 1950s - exactly as it had been built: the kitchen had those angled sliding glass doors on the cupboards: the previous owners were the first and only people before us to have lived here. They died here too- which is exactly what we plan to do- although I'd like to postpone that for say, 50 years or so. A very pleasant death-row. It's such a lovely spot, no one ever leaves this road while they're still alive.
We redid the kitchen, bathrooms, all the windows, the garage roof, the block paving and more recently the chimney had to be rebuilt so we could have a log burning stove. Most of the work we did ten years ago is all coming out. The entire house was done with woodchip painted with numerous layers of gloss paint- it took us three years to get it all off- replaster and redecorate. Of course I was working full time away from home back then and we did it all ourselves- cos we were young.

The extension will give us 110 square metres of extra space and there's about 40- square meters being remodelled inside the existing house.
It's not so bad at the moment cos the builders haven't needed to come inside yet, well, only to ask for more tea.

PS first brick .. well it's a block that won't actually ever be seen cos it will be underground has now been laid by moi.. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well Rach that's certainly what I call major works and I think perhaps you need to start buying teabags in bulk if the builders are going to be around so long Smile

And to think I've been worrying about the fact that the whole of my house is in need of a new dampcourse and work is starting next month which involves taking off the skirting boards and hacking off all plaster on the ground floor walls to a height of one metre and then replastering and complete redecoration and probably carpeting - and the problem is that I'm not going to be around for much of that time in order to keep an eye on what is going on - I just hope these people know what they're doing Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Helen May wrote:


Toggy I'm contemplating the same, but keep putting it off.............



We put it off for ages but our present kitchen is not in a good way. Luckily we'll be away for some of the time and we'll give our neigbour the key.
All being well when we get back it'll be not far from finished.

All the boxing up of stuff is an almighty pain in the neck but of course it'll be lovely when it's finished. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are starting tomorrow! wish me luck Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will think of you Toggy!

As you say it's the clearing out that takes the time. You don't realise how much you accumulate over the years.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The story so far, old floor ripped out, cupboards removed, floor levelled ready to be tiled. there were only 2 of them, goodness me they are grafters.



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How is the kitchen looking now Toggy?

Wonder how Rachel is managing with her builders as well?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was finished last week and it looks fabulous, will post a couple of pictures shortly.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's all on schedule, Helen, even though the little JCB they were using caused havoc with our services, water, electricty, gas and broadband all cut off. We had to move out for a few weeks while it was all sorted out.
They started to build the walls last week after what seems like a lifetime doing the drains and other underground stuff.


latest progress picture is here...

http://rachel-h.wikispaces.com/file/view/DSCN0745.JPG/355854388/DSCN0745.JPG

The evil machine - twas quite cute really.

http://rachel-h.wikispaces.com/file/view/DSCN0612.JPG/355854350/DSCN0612.JPG
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking forward to seeing them Toggy!

It's looking good Rachel, that machine looks like it meant business........

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Here you go, quite an improvement from the last set of photos. Very Happy





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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fabulous. I love the wood on the kitchen cabinets.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like it. Love the cooker too.

We had the kitchen guy around last night: in my head it takes "a few days to fit a kitchen" when we'd chosen everything, he explained how it works with paying him... 25% deposit when we place the order, another 50% at the end of the first week of fitting... at this point , I interjected- "The first WEEK?!" How many weeks does it take? ... Oh a good two maybe three he said. .. No wonder the blooming thing is costing so much..... Three weeks! When we did it ourselves last time , it took two days. Humph!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toggy it looks fantastic! Love the wood as well. Did you change the layout very much?

I was thinking about cookers at the weekend and we looked at some similar to yours. I want an electric hob though which I think is possible but we didn't see any.

Rachel my present kitchen took 4 weeks and I was demented at the end of it! There were problems with the design then the joiner and the provider fell out and he 'worked to rule' starting at 11 am every day............ I'm convinced it's the nightmare of it all 20 years ago which keeps putting me off this time round! The 2 people we've had recently quoted a week to 10 days which is better.

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Helen May wrote:
The 2 people we've had recently quoted a week to 10 days which is better.


Ah yes, but............... you always have to double to projected timescale of any building or home improvement schedule to allow for (a) all the unexpected little jobs that have arisen that they weren't aware of when first quoting (basically that they'd overlooked), (b) the fact that they have other unfinished jobs that need "a bit of work doing" which result in them turning up late or disappearing for hours on end without telling you and (c) all the time taken drinking your tea and eating your biscuits!!! Smile

Our most recent kitchen refit 2 years ago took my son and myself about six weeks.............. ish. Sharp intake of breath. Put the kettle on while we think about it!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah but you were able to take your time Colin and I bet the whole place wasn't completely disrupted for all of that time!

No one can believe it took so long for mine to be done as it's not that huge, 16ft x 10ft and has a table down one of the long walls. It was the guy not doing a full day's work that caused it but you feel you've got to tread carefully or they'll just walk out and leave the job unfinished!

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Helen May wrote:
Ah but you were able to take your time Colin and I bet the whole place wasn't completely disrupted for all of that time!


Actually, it was anything but, Helen! All the cabinets were ripped out, the sink remained connected and was propped up on makeshift legs (a bit too precariously, to be honest), the fridge and fridge-freezer were in the narrow hallway as was the kitchen table that had been dismantled, plus a pile of plastic crates containing crockery, cutlery and all the other kitchen paraphernalia. We disconnected the gas cooker before scraping off the old floors prior to prepping the new stone tiles. And then we had a problem with the delivery of the stone tiles. And the kitchen cabinets. And the plasterer (a mate of my son's) got a bit too busy and could only do the walls on a Saturday afternoon, maybe, if we're lucky.

At the end of it all, my wife proclaimed: "Next time, we pay money and do it properly!" . Smile

PS: It was another 4 months before the electrician (another mate of my son's) could come and put the new socket plates and blanking plates on!!!

My wife might have a point. Smile
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After all that I'm surprised you're still married Colin!

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Helen May wrote:
After all that I'm surprised you're still married Colin!


After 33 years she's got to know some of my foibles!
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It's about the same with us!

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Yes, I think I need to get to grips with my own kitchen.... it could do with sorting out... Laughing







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Our builders are on holiday this week- it's so quiet. Although the scaffolders are coming on Wednesday and another kitchen chap is coming on Thursday. New kitchens are a bit of a nightmare- it's a complete minefield... they are just chipboard boxes with nice doors aren't they? Blimey- some of the prices are just bonkers... one lot wanted £30K!!! Blimey- I could buy a new Lotus for that! Another lot wanted £18K for the what looks like the same thing...let me just show you to the door sweetheart... thank you. Kitchen unit budget is £12K and we would like some change. We've found another two kitchen places to try, if Thursday's chap is another non-starter. B & Q sell units that look similar to the ones we like for about £4K to fill our kitchen- do they just make the price up? I'm stressed and we've not even looked at the three bathrooms yet, or tiles or paint or anything really!!!! Aggggghhhhhh. Shouldn't our Architect be doing all this?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you tried Howdens Rachel? http://www.howdens.com/

You need to have a builder joiner already but they are reasonable as far as units go.

Did you get your architect to design your kitchen? I've given up with kitchen planners as they all seem to forget that doors have to be opened etc and that is doesn't just have to look nice...........

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Thanks Helen, they are the people coming on Thursday: our builder organised it after our last meeting , they seem, if you count the 50% discount for trade, about the same as B & Q prices but of a much better build quality we're told. The problem with brochures is that they are fiendishly clever at making things look much better in the brochure than they really are Ė so you have to go and see the stuff : the £30K stuff looked fantastic in the book but in the showroom it looked quite ordinary , in fact, I would go as far to say that our old MFI ( Hygena) kitchen is just as good, if not better. We could just re-jig and move around what we have already, fit new worktops and sink, maybe some new cornice and pelmet, and bobís your uncle.
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I've been to their local showroom and the cupboards looked good, so hope they come up trumps for you.

I know what you mean about just re-jigging what you have, the thought has crossed my mind more than once! The hinges on our doors are going, we've used up all the spares, they don't make any that would fit and I need at a couple of new base units as we had a flood a while back. We have too many doors and the window is in the wrong place for a good design to work! I think I'll start again with the design though and maybe just go for it!

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Our kitchen will probably be from Howdens in the end... they gaurantee they will beat B&Q's price although I have another firm eager to quote too - Wren Kitchens.
The original price including Walnut worktops was £11k from B&Q but with my Trade account, I've got it down to about £7k now...



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Santa,

That looks terrific! Wren Kitchens are the old MFI and I read bad reports when I googled them a few months ago.

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I didn't know that Helen... our chippy said he had recently fitted a couple of Wren kitchens and their price was below Howdens who we would normally use. He said the quality and phone help he received during the installations was excellent.
Unless there's a big price difference though, I'll probably stick to Howdens.
Those round doors and the Walnut tops pump the price up a lot but they do look nice in the gloss cream finish...
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We're a little way from needing to have our new kitchen installed- so we have lots of time to shop around.... as you can see the buildres have a way to go yet.......








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SantaFefan wrote:
Our kitchen will probably be from Howdens in the end... they gaurantee they will beat B&Q's price although I have another firm eager to quote too - Wren Kitchens.
The original price including Walnut worktops was £11k from B&Q but with my Trade account, I've got it down to about £7k now...




Love the way the oven isn't built in all the way up, with the cupboards sort of surrounding it. It's given me an idea for mine so thanks for posting the layout!

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