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 Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 1:48 pm Post subject: Do You Wear A Poppy? |
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This always comes up every year whether you see TV people,celebrities and anyone else who appears on TV to be interviewed have a Poppy stuck on.. I don't know if this happens or they do it as they want too, but it does seem to look like they are especially those who are getting interviewed?
Do you wear a Poppy or donate? Wear yours with pride.... |
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ColinB
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| Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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| A lot of mainstream Tv presenters - such as news readers, etc - are given them to wear by the production office. They get a box load to distribute. I worked at a facility once where a boxload came in from the British Legion - I think the company gave about £100 for them and then handed them out. |
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Angela W
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| Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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I wear a poppy and I always donate.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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| I have a ceramic poppy which is as old as I am if not older. I wear it each year. I donate to the poppy appeal but never take a poppy. You have to separate the appeal from Remembrance Day and Remembrance Sunday. They are two different things. It's not enough to just throw a pound in the box and wear a poppy for a few days. You have to get yourself round to your local War Memorial on the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month , stand there in the cold - look, listen, learn, understand, read all the names, reflect on how lucky you are, and who you really have to thank for that, and what those people gave, just so you could stand there whenever you choose. |
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ColinB
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| Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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| R2Icon wrote: | | You have to get yourself round to your local War Memorial on the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month , stand there in the cold - look, listen, learn, understand, read all the names, reflect on how lucky you are, and who you really have to thank for that, and what those people gave, just so you could stand there whenever you choose. |
It's not necessary to go to a local memorial on the 11/11/11 and engage in collective reflection. It is actually possible to consider these things at any time, any place, anyhow. As I do.
The thing that irks me is that such gatherings nearly always have religious leanings, which I don't agree with.
My late grandfather, who survived three years in the Somme, used to say that if there's a god he has a pretty perverse way of loving us all, given the horrors that he inflicted on his "sheep" in northern France and elsewhere. I agree with him, and that's why I don't get involved in collective remembrance ceremonies.
I always chuck a few quid into the collection in exchange for a poppy, though, as do all members of my family. |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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| ColinB wrote: | | R2Icon wrote: | | You have to get yourself round to your local War Memorial on the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month , stand there in the cold - look, listen, learn, understand, read all the names, reflect on how lucky you are, and who you really have to thank for that, and what those people gave, just so you could stand there whenever you choose. |
It's not necessary to go to a local memorial on the 11/11/11 and engage in collective reflection. It is actually possible to consider these things at any time, any place, anyhow. As I do.
The thing that irks me is that such gatherings nearly always have religious leanings, which I don't agree with.
My late grandfather, who survived three years in the Somme, used to say that if there's a god he has a pretty perverse way of loving us all, given the horrors that he inflicted on his "sheep" in northern France and elsewhere. I agree with him, and that's why I don't get involved in collective remembrance ceremonies.
I always chuck a few quid into the collection in exchange for a poppy, though, as do all members of my family. |
Of course in the Armed Services it's an every day thing, with Colours (in the morning) and Sunset in the evening. Being married to an Armed Forces Vicar (Chaplain) now ex service, I've had it up to here with religious services but there are times when we must set aside what we think: and do what is right. Remembrance Day is much bigger than what we believe in individually. No doubt many thousands of the people who died didn’t give a hoot about God or heaven and hell but they went anyway, so should you. |
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ColinB
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| Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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| R2Icon wrote: | | No doubt many thousands of the people who died didn’t give a hoot about God or heaven and hell but they went anyway, so should you. |
I do go - just not "there" that's all. |
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Helen May
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| Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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I too donate and wear a poppy.
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ruddlescat
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| Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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Like Rachel I wear the same poppy every year but I always give a donation - that way I show respect for our war dead and they have an extra poppy to sell to someone else 
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FleetingEileenM
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| Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes I always buy one but don't wear it until November. |
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John W
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| Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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| ColinB wrote: |
The thing that irks me is that such gatherings nearly always have religious leanings, which I don't agree with.
My late grandfather, who survived three years in the Somme, used to say that if there's a god he has a pretty perverse way of loving us all, given the horrors that he inflicted on his "sheep" in northern France and elsewhere. I agree with him, and that's why I don't get involved in collective remembrance ceremonies. |
Well yes, the horror of the Somme wasn't created by God , it was created by men, warmongers. The idea of a caring God is just from some old Hebrew Old Testament story, and I still don't know why the western world's conversion to Christianity had to also take on the Old Testament.
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| I am in the town most days but have yet to see anybody selling poppies...it was the same last year although I did, at the last minute, manage to get one.I have emailed my local British Legion to ask why this is ....haven't received a reply as yet. |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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| becky sharp wrote: | | I am in the town most days but have yet to see anybody selling poppies...it was the same last year although I did, at the last minute, manage to get one.I have emailed my local British Legion to ask why this is ....haven't received a reply as yet. |
I haven't yet seen anyone standing in the street shaking a tin and selling them, but I have seen poppies on sale in pubs and shops.
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becky sharp
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| Lord Evan Elpuss wrote: | | becky sharp wrote: | | I am in the town most days but have yet to see anybody selling poppies...it was the same last year although I did, at the last minute, manage to get one.I have emailed my local British Legion to ask why this is ....haven't received a reply as yet. |
I haven't yet seen anyone standing in the street shaking a tin and selling them, but I have seen poppies on sale in pubs and shops. |
Might try there then  ...thanks... |
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| ColinB wrote: | | R2Icon wrote: | | You have to get yourself round to your local War Memorial on the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month , stand there in the cold - look, listen, learn, understand, read all the names, reflect on how lucky you are, and who you really have to thank for that, and what those people gave, just so you could stand there whenever you choose. |
It's not necessary to go to a local memorial on the 11/11/11 and engage in collective reflection. It is actually possible to consider these things at any time, any place, anyhow. As I do. |
Well yes, it's difficult to listen to the news or read the papers each day without reflecting upon the lives which were, and are still being lost in war.
There are also so many causes which clamour for our attention during the year and I believe that it is still right to reserve 11/11/11 and the events on the few days around that point in remembrance.
I remember standing with my dad, selling poppies in Station Road, Harrow, when I was a boy - that was bloody cold. His brother served in WWII, mum lost her brother, and my wife's favourite aunt lost a brother in the same conflict - his name is on our local memorial and we shall be there for the small service, which is not overtly religious, on Sunday. I don't have a permanent poppy but am pleased to "buy" and wear one each year. I haven't seen any poppy sellers in the big bad city, but fortunately plenty in our local town, and for the last fortnight in Sainsbury's.
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