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RockitRon



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:56 pm    Post subject: EP Foul Up Reply with quote

Shows how few people listen to Elaine Paige (my excuse is I was at my mum's defrosting her freezer, and she can't stand the woman either).

Anyway, the show is pre-recorded in four half-hour segments, and they played Part 2 first, so at 0.34 she announces the 2pm news and there's then silence... until Alan Dedicoat chimes in to fill for 20mins or so.

(Thank you Vicky Richardson for that info - how much better Sunday lunchtimes would be if you filled that slot - even if you had to play show tunes!)
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:15 am    Post subject: Re: EP Foul Up Reply with quote

RockitRon wrote:
Shows how few people listen to Elaine Paige (my excuse is I was at my mum's defrosting her freezer, and she can't stand the woman either).

Anyway, the show is pre-recorded in four half-hour segments, and they played Part 2 first, so at 0.34 she announces the 2pm news and there's then silence... until Alan Dedicoat chimes in to fill for 20mins or so.

(Thank you Vicky Richardson for that info - how much better Sunday lunchtimes would be if you filled that slot - even if you had to play show tunes!)


Cool beans! It's good to know that with all the computer technology running the BBC, there's still just a little room for human error. Let's hear it for those humans... yeah baby!!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do you know that it shows how few people listen to EP Ron? For all you know loads of people could have phoned or emailed.

I sometimes listen as some of her music is good but sort of tune out to her voice. Didn't hear yesterday's at all so can't comment.

It happened on POTP when Dale Winton presented it a few years ago now, they played the first hour twice on that occasion!

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard the last 20 minutes of EP's show, with the interview with Harvey Weinstein but was told about this drop-out earlier by another listener earlier.

Bit useless, really. It's a shame that they can get live stand-ins for every other daytime show on Sunday but not this - it's not like EP brings anything special to the show (in fact, it was because O'Grady stood in and made it his own that he got his own show later in the day).

Radio 4's Feedback have been compiling a list of all these broadcast drop-outs but they're happening so frequently I've forgotten the reason!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's about time they moved Elaine Page to a specialist evening slot and preferably cut down her airtime for the type of stuff she plays which is certainly far from mainstream

Ipm on Sunday lunchtime is a fairly prime time slot which deserves a lot better but there again the whole of the Sunday schedule is absolutely abysmal at present with the possible exception of Johnnie Walker Sad
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ruddlescat wrote:
Ipm on Sunday lunchtime is a fairly prime time slot which deserves a lot better but there again the whole of the Sunday schedule is absolutely abysmal at present with the possible exception of Johnnie Walker Sad

Ah, now I'm the other way. I think EP and O'Grady's shows are great, but the 2 hours of drab 70s stuff in the middle just does my head in.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ruddlescat wrote:
Ipm on Sunday lunchtime is a fairly prime time slot which deserves a lot better but there again the whole of the Sunday schedule is absolutely abysmal at present with the possible exception of Johnnie Walker Sad

Ah, now I'm the other way. I think EP and O'Grady's shows are great, but the 2 hours of drab 70s stuff in the middle just does my head in.


Johnnie Walker's Sounds of the 70s is hugely disappointing because, with the exception of one or two tracks (last Sunday only Pink Floyd's) nothing is played that you aren't likely to hear at any other time on R2.
I want it to be more like SOTS, with more non-hit, American (or other overseas) and slightly obscure material.

Elaine Paige is simply awful. Most of the music played (not the pop padding) deserves better attention than it gets from her.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I too am sometimes disappointed with SOT70s. JW, who spent the late 60s and 70s championing album tracks as opposed to singles chart hits, should really be doing the same now, instead of playing all that Queen / Blondie rubbish that is played every day by every single UK radio station.

It was good to hear 'Fat Old Sun' from Pink Floyd's Atom Heart Mother, a fine album from 1970. But this was the exception. How many more times do we have to hear Brown Sugar and My Sweet Lord (superb songs though they are)?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think JW is stifled by the constraints imposed upon him. His previous slots enabled him to introduce us to new music and my CD collection grew with it. I don't buy much these day and I can't download anything with my useless broadband connection but I will always listen to JW when I'm not at work. I really like the sound of his voice. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tend to agree about the current JW Sunday show but I'm not sure I'd want it to become exactly like SOTS where in my view there is still far too much obscure music played although in recent months things have got better

I'd just like to see Johnnie playing a wider variety of 70s music including some decent album tracks now and again but I suspect it's not his call - it's prob ably down to the fact that the show now has outside producers who are operating in the mindset of what goes on in commercial radio Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with most of the comments here....
EP's programme refects the R2 obsession with music from 'the shows' which seems overly dominant in the schedules. Also we are constantly bombarded with 'stars' plugging the latest show they are appearing in - the west end promoters seem to have R2 in their pockets. Dreadful music sung in an overly dramatic way by someone affecting a New York accent has scant appeal for me, and combined with the self-obsessed luvvie presention makes this show a must-miss in the Sunday schedule. To be fair, I quite often try to listen to it, but the first time EP starts talking about herself or does her hilariously strange laugh has me reaching for the switch. There is no reason why this particular specialist music stream is given a prime slot on a Sunday. I for one would much rather hear something (anything) else.
JW is almost the only proper DJ left on the station, and I like his presentation very much, but I have to admit that the show does sometimes feel as though not a lot of thought has gone into it.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the reason for the bland nature of SOT70s is the timing: Sunday afternoon, when most of the great British listening public are in a fairly sedate frame of mind and would prefer the usual ELO fodder to anything more challenging such as album tracks.
Perhaps it could be returned to its Friday evening slot.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Re Uncle Buck.
I don't mean to be rude but what on earth are you talking about?
Elaine Paige's show is meant to be about musicals so what do you expect her to play?
Also where do you get that "R2 obsession with the shows" from?
I listen from 7am until 5.15pm every weekday and don't hear a single show tune.
I can understand you not liking that particular style of music but you really can't make things up just so they suit your musical tastes.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

unclebuck wrote:
EP's programme refects the R2 obsession with music from 'the shows' which seems overly dominant in the schedules.....There is no reason why this particular specialist music stream is given a prime slot on a Sunday.

Uncle Buck, I wish I knew in which other programmes I could hear show tunes (besides David Jacobs and sometimes Paul O'Grady and Russell Davies on Sunday evenings) because I would listen. Does any other station have a similar programme do you know?

What would you personally rather hear on Sundays from 1pm until 3pm?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like a show tune, but I prefer it when Elaine is away, and Barbara Windsor does the show, as she plays more of the stuff I know and love. Her inbetween song banter is better too.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow. That seemed to touch a nerve. Keep calm everyone. Just opinions.
I guess I was merely reiterating a point made by ruddlescat, that this is a specialist show, and whereas all the other specialist shows have evening slots, this one is given a midday/weekend position, and I don't know why.

I can remember a Sunday not so long ago when Aled Jones had a guest who was promoting the West End show he was appearing in. He was followed later by Michael Ball, who spent a lot of time talking about musicals. His show was followed by Elaine Paige, featuring music from shows. Later, by way of light relief, we had Jodie Prenger, billed by the BBC as an 'expert in all things West End', standing in for Paul O'Grady. The day was punctuated by trailers for Friday Night is Music Night, which that week was to be a tribute to someone who wrote tunes for shows.

But to be honest, I simply don't like a lot of the music for the 'classic' style of shows, for reasons explained in the previous post - especially if it's served up in a solid 2-hour lump. I liked Barbara Windsor, but EP is like nails down a blackboard for me.
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