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SantaFefan
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 11258 Location: top of the cliffs in Norfolk
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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plus of course the Global Warming crowd won't be impressed _________________ Johnnie Walker read out my message on Pirate Radio! 13/8/07
I have heard how radio should be. |
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John W
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 3367 Location: Warwickshire, UK
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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Rachel wrote: | I did wonder about the Jaguar/Landrover bailout- maybe it's because they export - I can't think of any other good reason to bail them out other than the "car is king" thought process that male politicians suffer from. |
It's because for each car-worker there are ~10 others in suppliers, and too many small /medium businesses would also close, kind of domino effect.
I got made redundant because main customers Longbridge and Ryton (Peugeot) closed in 2005/2006
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RockitRon
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 7646
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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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Our Woolworth closes on Saturday. It's just the right size of store for a Poundland or similar, of which there are none at the moment in the Victoria Centre, although there's no shortage of them elsewhere.
Meanwhile The Pier, famous for heavy dark furniture, candles and pot pourri, has also gone into administration and its 49 stores, mostly in city centres, are closing down as soon as the stock goes.
The media are salivating over who's next on the list - you can probably bet on it if you're ghoulish enough. Whittards, chain of 130 shops selling tea and coffee gift sets, are the next most likely, because their Icelandic owners have been caught in the banking crisis there and they have been unable to find a buyer [at the right price] for the stores. _________________ Ron |
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MadeinSurrey
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 3130 Location: The Beautiful South
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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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Some sections of the media are like vultures - they could try a little more tact. (Some hope!) _________________ MiS |
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John W
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 3367 Location: Warwickshire, UK
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:41 am Post subject: |
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As a knock-on effect of the Woolies failure and the distribution halt - having been deprived of CD/media stock - looks like Zavvi have gone into admin now |
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MadeinSurrey
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 3130 Location: The Beautiful South
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:47 am Post subject: |
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Sadly many more will follow. Let's hope that things pick up in 2009. _________________ MiS |
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Ian Robinson Site Admin
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 3609 Location: Chorley, Lancashire
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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John W wrote: | As a knock-on effect of the Woolies failure and the distribution halt - having been deprived of CD/media stock - looks like Zavvi have gone into admin now |
But it seems like they were in each other's pockets - they owed Woolies £100m!
My local independent record shop is having a great Christmas - he's been packed for weeks, and the weak pound means his internet sales are booming too (up 5 times on last year). He's done so well he's taking Saturday off! |
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Mark Mayhew
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 2897
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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Sad news about Zavvi-I liked this music retailer. |
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nod
Joined: 24 Dec 2006 Posts: 3558
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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 11:44 am Post subject: |
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I think they'd been sliding downhill for a while, but then haven't the other CD outlets ?. HMV seems to have out CDs to the back of the shop to be replaced by DVDs & games etc.
Ar ewe seeing the end of CD music sales ?. Has x-factor etc killed music as we knew it ? |
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mark occomore
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 9955 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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Mark Mayhew wrote: | Sad news about Zavvi-I liked this music retailer. |
Once was Virgin. Problem with Music retailers people are downloading music now which will end up more going under. I heard W H Smiths and Wilkinson's are in trouble. I could see Wilkinson's going, but Smiths? I suppose thats what they said about Woolies? |
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Briant
Joined: 02 Jun 2007 Posts: 964 Location: Liverpool England UK
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 12:07 pm Post subject: W H Smiths'.... |
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There is a multi-million new shopping development called Liverpool One in my home town, and it houses many of the top names including WHSmiths. However it is so tiny that two people browsing the magazines (as they do) block up the shop! Also it now houses the Post Office, but on the second floor, where pensioners and others find it hard to access! |
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Boy Perkins
Joined: 18 Dec 2008 Posts: 128
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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Some of these new developments are going to have a problem or two over the next couple of years; surely a number of them will have to be mothballed?
For the next year or so we can expect a clear trend in which people only spend the money they have and not that which they hope to have.
The consequences of a stop to debt financing are quite significant; I don't think many have realised that .... maybe even the press are reluctant to go down that road? |
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Ian Robinson Site Admin
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 3609 Location: Chorley, Lancashire
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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mark occomore wrote: | I heard W H Smiths and Wilkinson's are in trouble. |
The problem with rumours (and why news outlets generally don't report them) is that they may not actually be true, but can still lead to trouble. So don't spread them! |
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Boy Perkins
Joined: 18 Dec 2008 Posts: 128
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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That's funny, I thought rumour, or it is alleged, or it is from a source, was all they did publish?? |
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gfloyd
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 4861 Location: Here, There, Everywhere.
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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Mark O is really Robert Peston _________________ His name was ernie ........ and he drove the fastest milk cart in the west..... |
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John W
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 3367 Location: Warwickshire, UK
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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On the Xmas thread I said I had a CD-free and book-free Xmas (I declared my Christmas this year to be free of such things because when we were preparing this room for a new floor I had to move hundreds of CDs and books upstairs and realised so many CDs were rarely listened to and several books are unfinished reading)
But today the missus came back from Woolies with some bits and pieces including (another) book about 'Water Gardening' (ponds etc). Originally 6.99 but there was a yellow sticker on it saying Now £2 !
'A bargain' says the missus. 'But was it ever 6.99 in Woolies?' I asked suspiciously, having peeled off the Now £2 sticker to reveal underneath..... a £2 sticker ! |
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iwarburton
Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 2133 Location: Northumberland
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Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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Very sad that the Woolworths store closures have now begun.
When I was a very impecunious teenager in the sixties, Woolie's often saved my bacon at present-buying time.
But maybe that was exactly its problem--it still had a sixties feel about it, when other stores had moved on.
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Boy Perkins
Joined: 18 Dec 2008 Posts: 128
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Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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Bought my first pair of blue jeans from Woolies. They were 10/6d. You don't get value for money like that these days |
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SantaFefan
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 11258 Location: top of the cliffs in Norfolk
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Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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The wife had to have a spending session in some clothes shops this afternoon
Bored stiff, I wandered into the Lowestoft Woolworth's store for the first time. Posters advertised "everything must go including fittings and equipment".
Very sad really.. not because I'll miss the store, I haven't bought anything from Woolworth's since the 80s, but I hate to see the final death throes of a once busy organisation.. but, as I remembered it to be, I didn't like the layout and the general feel of the store. It smacked of cheapness.
Most fittings had "sold to.." written on them and the remaining stock was strewn everywhere. I felt a little dirty to be honest, picking over the bones so to speak.
I waited outside, choosing to admire the Woolworth's architecture instead. _________________ Johnnie Walker read out my message on Pirate Radio! 13/8/07
I have heard how radio should be. |
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John W
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 3367 Location: Warwickshire, UK
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Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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Boy Perkins wrote: | Bought my first pair of blue jeans from Woolies. They were 10/6d. You don't get value for money like that these days |
Pre-1971? About 50p ??
Well I expect good wages were just £20 a week then. Today say £400, so that would be £10 for jeans, still do-able I'm sure at Asda??
Oh well. When we scrutinized the Woollies receipt we realised that the Now £2 book had qualified for a further 60% reduction at the checkout and we had paid just 80p for it !
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Boy Perkins
Joined: 18 Dec 2008 Posts: 128
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Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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More like late 50's ... but I don't expect anyone to remember!!!! |
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iwarburton
Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 2133 Location: Northumberland
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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 11:59 am Post subject: |
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Alas, I remember the late 50s very clearly (born in 1948)!
Ian. |
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Boy Perkins
Joined: 18 Dec 2008 Posts: 128
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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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iwarburton wrote: | Alas, I remember the late 50s very clearly (born in 1948)!
Ian. |
Ahh, the good old days, I don't think! Still our aspirations were lower and our expectations modest... hence less frustration and disappointment. And obesity was not too common!! |
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Number Six
Joined: 14 Dec 2006 Posts: 439 Location: In the village
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Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:22 am Post subject: |
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iwarburton wrote: | Alas, I remember the late 50s very clearly (born in 1948)!
Ian. |
As do I (1950)
My Mum worked in Woolies when I was a little boy. I've just found a photo of her working on the shoe counter. Sandals for 9/11 a pair. _________________ I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. |
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iknewdavidjacobsmum
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 336
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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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Were they plastic and bright red? |
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Helen May
Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19385 Location: Cheshire
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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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Number Six wrote: | iwarburton wrote: | Alas, I remember the late 50s very clearly (born in 1948)!
Ian. |
As do I (1950)
My Mum worked in Woolies when I was a little boy. I've just found a photo of her working on the shoe counter. Sandals for 9/11 a pair. |
I remember a lot of things being 9/11d..........
H _________________ 88 - 91 FM this is Radio 2 from the BBC!
I said it live on air in the studio with Jeremy Vine on 10/3/2005 |
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Boy Perkins
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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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Aye, you didn't get much change from a ten bob note!! |
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SantaFefan
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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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No, but enough for four Black Jacks or Fruit Salads _________________ Johnnie Walker read out my message on Pirate Radio! 13/8/07
I have heard how radio should be. |
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Boy Perkins
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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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Personally thought the ha'penny chews were better than the 4 for a penny ones, but just my taste I suppose... |
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RockitRon
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mark occomore
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 9955 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Frozen food retailer Iceland has bought 51 former Woolworths stores, and said it plans to create 2,500 new jobs. |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7820981.stm
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Hopefully they will get the staff back who lost their jobs at Woolworths. |
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Boy Perkins
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds good, but why do supermarkets always talk about 'new jobs'?
People are not going to buy more food, and the more modern the supermarket the fewer the staff needed to supply that food. So everytime there is a new outlet the overall number of people employed in the sector will decrease?
Or is there another angle to this which eludes me? |
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John W
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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Iceland have bought 51 stores at :
Alton, Barnsley, Belper, Bethnal Green, Bexhill On Sea, Bicester, Billericay, Blandford Forum, Bodmin, Boreham Wood, Bow, Braintree, Broadstairs, Devizes, Exmouth, Fraserburgh, Frome, Greenford, Hackney, Hailsham, Harold Hill, Haverhill, Herne Bay, Hexham, Highgate, Honiton, Kilburn High Road, Leyton, Malvern, Matlock, Mill Hill, Minehead, Monmouth, Morpeth, Morriston, Newtownards, Palmers Green, Pinner (Rayner's Lane), Palmers Green, Plumstead, Pontypool, Poplar, Portslade, Ringwood, St Neots, Stoke Newington, Strood, Sudbury, Swaffham, Wakefield, Wallington, Whitstable
The two stores in Coventry and the ones in Nuneaton, Kenilworth, Warwick and Leamington will remain empty then. |
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