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SantaFefan
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 11258 Location: top of the cliffs in Norfolk
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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 5:12 pm Post subject: Gulf Fiasco |
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This oil leak thing is starting to annoy me now which is ridiculous as I'm no expert but I said from early days that, surely with the massive constructions these firms are able to carry out, a huge metal "box" could have been positioned over the fracture... and I'm talking say 75 feet square! it could have multiple outlets on the top linked to powerful pumps - capable of pumping in more than the fracture is pumping out.
Heck, they could have even sunk a super tanker over it with a hole cut out of the bottom!
I don't understand how that could fail.. I know they tried a "top hat" enclosure but that looked to small to my eyes and it blocked easily..
I ranted to the wife listening to the Vine show a couple a day ago, saying why hasn't the US Navy got involved?? only to hear a telephone contribution asking the same thing including NASA! - only a short distance away!
The whole thing is bugging me.. it's a disgrace that it's gone on for so long and, from what I understand from the Vine show, it was an American rig, manned by Americans which caused the problem in the first place! and yet it seems to be becoming an "anti British" subject now.
I was also perturbed to learn from the Vine show that President Obama made a point of returning a bust of Sir Winston Churchill which had resided in the White House since WW2.. why did he do that I wonder??
I can see this turning a little nasty between the US/UK later... _________________ Johnnie Walker read out my message on Pirate Radio! 13/8/07
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Helen May
Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19382 Location: Cheshire
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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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I feel much the same way SF. I think the Americans could have done far more to help the situation other than Obama just getting annoyed.
As you say it's a disgrace that it's gone on for so long. If Americans do boycott BP stations you can bet your bottom dollar that the media will be doing its level best to make sure it's hyped up good and proper.
H _________________ 88 - 91 FM this is Radio 2 from the BBC!
I said it live on air in the studio with Jeremy Vine on 10/3/2005 |
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ColinB Guest
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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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However....... many of the institutional shareholders in BP are US companies (it's a multinational company, after all) so it's bound to be OK on the night. Obama is making noises about being annoyed simply because he can make political capital at a time when the electorate is starting to become sceptical about him. |
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RockitRon
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 7646
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Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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The company is now called BP, not British Petroleum. I remember at the time the change of name, and logo, was announced, the reason given was that it was a multinational, and no longer (even half) British-owned. _________________ Ron |
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Rachel Guest
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:12 am Post subject: |
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I was thinking a small nuclear depth-charge would do the trick, it might just work but on the other hand there’s a danger of covering the Gulf States in a sort of Radio Active Napalm which wouldn’t be a good outcome. I am surprised though that the Americans haven’t suggested nuking it.
I like your idea of sinking a super tanker, Santa.... if they put massive inflatable floatation sacks in the non oil-storage areas of the super tanker...then when it was full of oil they could inflate the bags: that combined with the bouyancy of the oil would allow the tanker to float gently back to the surface.... then simply tranfer the oil to a regular super-tanker and bingo..... |
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John W
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 3367 Location: Warwickshire, UK
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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RockitRon wrote: | The company is now called BP, not British Petroleum. I remember at the time the change of name, and logo, was announced, the reason given was that it was a multinational, and no longer (even half) British-owned. |
A lot of British pensions depend on BP, says me half of whose current income is pension _________________ -
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Minx
Joined: 09 Dec 2006 Posts: 4088 Location: France/Spain/Peterborough/Tenerife
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Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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Obama is getting to be a big disappointment to me. Other than his health care reforms, he sounds to be enjoying the trappings of office punctuated by the odd sound-byte here and there.
He would do well to remember his country's involvement in Bhopal before he starts casting stones at other countries. _________________ Minx
To err is human, to forgive - canine. |
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ColinB Guest
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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Obama is hitting out at BP because if he doesn't he'll get it in the neck from Congress and also the US media. He's passing the buck for putely PR point-scoring purposes. He's fully aware that BP is no longer called "British Petroleum" and that it's not a British company but a major multinational brand. He's therefore just playing to his audience.
I hope "Call me Dave" reminded him that BP leases the wellhead from an American company that installed and has been operating sub-standard facilities for a long time.
If Obama thinks this is the way to the heart of an increasingly agitated electorate then perhaps it's about time we started telling the USA to get stuffed. |
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Minx
Joined: 09 Dec 2006 Posts: 4088 Location: France/Spain/Peterborough/Tenerife
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:24 am Post subject: |
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ColinB wrote: | Obama is hitting out at BP because if he doesn't he'll get it in the neck from Congress and also the US media. He's passing the buck for putely PR point-scoring purposes. He's fully aware that BP is no longer called "British Petroleum" and that it's not a British company but a major multinational brand. He's therefore just playing to his audience.
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All of which makes him not the man I believed him to be. _________________ Minx
To err is human, to forgive - canine. |
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mark occomore
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 9955 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:53 am Post subject: |
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Obama's saying the BP oil leak is like 9/11. I don't know where he's going wth this. 9/11 was an act of terror. He will become unlikable if he continues with his comments. |
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ColinB Guest
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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mark occomore wrote: | Obama's saying the BP oil leak is like 9/11. I don't know where he's going wth this. 9/11 was an act of terror. He will become unlikable if he continues with his comments. |
He's referring to its impact on the American psyche. And he's hamming up his own act for the sake of PR. |
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Toggy
Joined: 18 Aug 2008 Posts: 1239
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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He's becoming very unlikeable (I think) and the 9/11 comments are bizarre as well as unwise.
He may turn out to be a bigger flop than Bush if that's possible. |
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SantaFefan
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 11258 Location: top of the cliffs in Norfolk
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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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I heard on the lunchtime news that scientists are surprised to find maybe 3/4 of the "spilled" oil from the Gulf disaster has dissolved naturally, been cleared up or evaporated...
I seem to recall this was the case after the Exxon Valdez incident.. when all the hype and name calling had died down, it was nowhere near as bad as the doom mongers made out.
( this is not me making light of the situation by the way... ) _________________ Johnnie Walker read out my message on Pirate Radio! 13/8/07
I have heard how radio should be. |
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becky sharp
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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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SantaFefan wrote: | I heard on the lunchtime news that scientists are surprised to find maybe 3/4 of the "spilled" oil from the Gulf disaster has dissolved naturally, been cleared up or evaporated...
I seem to recall this was the case after the Exxon Valdez incident.. when all the hype and name calling had died down, it was nowhere near as bad as the doom mongers made out.
( this is not me making light of the situation by the way... ) | Yes I was surprised when I heard that,Santa...it has been cleaned up or broken down by natural forces...makes you wonder (well me) why the natural forces stopped threequarters way through? |
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childprufe
Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 212 Location: lincolnshire
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 3:25 am Post subject: |
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Barrack Obama recently defended his country's policy in Afghanistan by saying "we are now under different management." He won't allow BP the same excuse. He is proving yet again that he is a duplicitous hypocrite, the same man who said Hillary Clinton was an incompetent politician and then made her Secretary of State. _________________ Standing on Ray Moore's shoulders |
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ColinB Guest
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 8:31 am Post subject: |
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Isn't it funny how they're now all decided that the effects of the oil leak "aren't as bad as was originally feared"? And isn't it funny that Obama is now at peace with BP given that it has a new (American) CEO?
There's something insidious about this whole affair........ |
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John W
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 3367 Location: Warwickshire, UK
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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becky sharp wrote: | ...makes you wonder (well me) why the natural forces stopped threequarters way through? |
Becky,
That's because 3/4 of it leaked months ago and has had time to become degraded by sun/sea/microbes or collected.
A quarter of it is still swishing around, much of it underwater.
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becky sharp
Joined: 01 Dec 2008 Posts: 6851
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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John W wrote: | becky sharp wrote: | ...makes you wonder (well me) why the natural forces stopped threequarters way through? |
Becky,
That's because 3/4 of it leaked months ago and has had time to become degraded by sun/sea/microbes or collected.
A quarter of it is still swishing around, much of it underwater.
John | Thank you John ....I knew there had to be a logical explanation..... |
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