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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:59 am    Post subject: An apology Reply with quote

I would like to apologise to all dj's whose shows go out in the week that I have slated.
This week I had the pleasure of listening to some shows on Sunday (decorating) I take it all back the week day shows are no where near as dull as the Sunday ones that I caught.
If anyone comes on this board and says that older people are not catered for I will point them to Sundays.

Sunday Love songs- dross
Wogan - why o why, I only started listening to R2 because of Wogan but that was years ago and he has gone down hill since then, but this show is dreadful
Elaine Page- no presenter in my eyes (ears) even if I did like the music (I don't )
CD's only if I am working this sunday, trying to stay awake while putting coving is fairly important for my H&S, R2 did not help
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not only older people who listen to SW Love Songs or EP.......on the few occasions I've heard them, several are younger listeners who email in. I can't stand EP's presentation and I don't think Wogan is right on the show he's doing.

BUT in anycase why should they only be catered for on a Sunday and YOU on the other 6 days?

I enjoy an mixture of music genres and object to being classed as older because of that.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Helen

I am catered for in the week either, It's not an age group that I want to be catered for, as I think my music taste is defined by my age that much.

I like music, I don't think the daytime shows caters for people who like music apart from the blander end of the market.
a couple of hours late in the evening with R&M, SOTS and Dermot that's it.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Undiscovered, I agree with you. Sundays are now awful on R2 - with the exception of Johnnie Walker. I have completely given up listening live and seek out the fine David Jensen on Planet Rock or slot my iPhone into the dock and stream web radio sources or listen to my iTunes playlists.

I also find Wogan's Sunday show cringeworthy in the extreme. It can't have much of a life, surely?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ColinB wrote:
I also find Wogan's Sunday show cringeworthy in the extreme. It can't have much of a life, surely?


Not sure Colin, TW can do no wrong, we are in the wrong to malign him so
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All I can say is that Radio 2 doesn't seem to be the station for either of you!

If you want music only and no entertainment from a presenter I'd suggest you stick to your CDs, I'm talking about weekday shows here BTW.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iain Smith has said elsewhere that EP is getting the push, and Johnnie Walker's and Paul O'Grady's show are each being extended by an hour. Anyone else heard this? I hope not, because at 35 years old I find Walker's show stupefyingly dull - yet I can enjoy EP and the Evening shows.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not heard anything but Iain Smith is obviously still up to his old tricks!

I quite like the content of Elaine's show as well Ian.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Helen May wrote:
Not heard anything but Iain Smith is obviously still up to his old tricks!

Yes, I come across him on a Doctor Who forum, where they don't just talk about DW, there's loads of stuff. He still posts about Radio 2 with the air of "one who knows" but the mods there have had to open up an "RIP" subforum to cope with all the threads he starts about dying celebrities.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with some of the criticisms--I've never seen EP as a presenter and somehow Wogan's show hasn't worked in its new format. I now find that on Sundays I prefer CFM or catching up on recorded programmes.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ian Robinson wrote:
Iain Smith has said elsewhere that EP is getting the push, and Johnnie Walker's and Paul O'Grady's show are each being extended by an hour. Anyone else heard this? I hope not, because at 35 years old I find Walker's show stupefyingly dull - yet I can enjoy EP and the Evening shows.


Probarly reading into it, because the shows are extended for one Sunday only in the few weeks for Children in need.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, as Mark says, the Sunday before CIN, Wogan will be back in the studio for his auction between 11 and 1, then Johnnie Walker from 1-4 and Paul O'Grady from 4-7, as a mini music-marathon. Its not permenant change!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah! Thanks Mark and Fred!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apart from Radcliffe and Maconie Sunday is the only day i listen to R2, but i do take evasive action when Elaine Paige is on though.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I enjoy R2 on Sundays, it gets us away from the usual pop music , X-factor hype and emailing/ texting twaddle we get all week Very Happy

OK all shows aren't great but you will hear some good old music etc, eg some variety .

Just relax it's Sunday Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sundays.

I don't listen to R2 Sunday mornings.

I don't listen hardly to Elaine P, and never to O'Grady or Walker.

But I regularly have Titchmarsh and Russell Davies on. I like Clare Teal, and also David Jacobs too but he's on too late for me.

It's not an age thing, it's just music genres I've grown to enjoy since I was 16 when I bought my first albums by Bach, Vivaldi and Mozart. I now have over 100 classical albums.

I was 23 when I discovered British light music and dance bands.

I was 28 when I bought my first jazz albums, and my first reggae albums and punk albums, probably 38 when I bought my first opera CD, and probably 48 when I bought a bunch of second-hand LPs of Mantovani and re-discovered light music Smile

So Sundays from 7.00pm are cool Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd love Ed Stewart to be brought back, I used to really enjoy his Sunday shows.
He wasn't scared to play "easy listening" songs, or comedy songs which seem to be frowned upon these days.
I loved the fact that you would never know what you were going to hear next.
I'm not too keen on segregating music too much.
Radio people nowdays think that people have really narrow music tastes and if they like crooners they can't possibly like heavy rock or punk etc, which is wrong in my opinion
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I donít understand is why people in general (no one in particular) think that music, even Radio Programmes, comes in age groups. I understand that we all become musically aware somewhere between puberty and late teens (I donít count Martin Lewis in this obviously) and we all have an affection for our first kiss with music, which lasts our entire life, but why does that mean music from earlier or later years is not for us, surely, like most things; some is, some isnít. If we shut ourselves off to the idea, in a, oh that music is just for young people or thatís just for old folk, kind of way, then we have stopped living. Music is the heartbeat of life, thereís so much of it out there but that is just a tiny fraction of what is yet to come. Why would anyone want to miss out on that? I grew up in the 70s/80s but my favourite music era is the late 50s and some 60s before I was bornĖ I have a thing for some Disco music and Punk Rock, equally though, I like lots of modern and new stuff too. Never really got all that Acid-House music and Rave stuff but some of it is ok for dancing. Surely music is just music, you can love it or loathe it at any age.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gazmando wrote:
I'd love Ed Stewart to be brought back, I used to really enjoy his Sunday shows.
He wasn't scared to play "easy listening" songs, or comedy songs which seem to be frowned upon these days.
I loved the fact that you would never know what you were going to hear next.
I'm not too keen on segregating music too much.
Radio people nowdays think that people have really narrow music tastes and if they like crooners they can't possibly like heavy rock or punk etc, which is wrong in my opinion


I too really enjoyed his Sunday show and miss it. In the past Radio 2 wasn't afraid of mixing it up. That was what drew me to the station many years ago, long before I reached the official age of their remit.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gazmando wrote:
I'd love Ed Stewart to be brought back, I used to really enjoy his Sunday shows.
He wasn't scared to play "easy listening" songs, or comedy songs which seem to be frowned upon these days.
I loved the fact that you would never know what you were going to hear next.
I'm not too keen on segregating music too much.
Radio people nowdays think that people have really narrow music tastes and if they like crooners they can't possibly like heavy rock or punk etc, which is wrong in my opinion


It's not quite that. It's that they believe that people don't like too wide a musical range within one show, and we've referred to "crunching gear changes" in the past.

Some people like "Different Every Time" - my ipod on shuffle is like that, nothing obscure, just every track almost guaranteed to be quite different to the last, reflecting my wide range in taste going back 60 years - and I like it, but I can tell, from the experience of friends' reactions when I've used it on away on holiday, that most people don't.

From the point of view of providing a cohesive, easy-to-listen-to daytime radio show, dropping Bing Crosby, or Cara Dillon, or Rambling Syd Rumpo into the mix just wouldn't sound right.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sunday listening is fantastic in our house, and it's all Radio 2!

I was a bit slow in realising that I could record radio programmes on our VirginPlus box, so now Sundays are for lazing around listening to Richard Allinson, Mike Harding, Bob Harris etc.

We have our Sundays back Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rachel wrote:
What I donít understand is why people in general (no one in particular) think that music, even Radio Programmes, comes in age groups. I understand that we all become musically aware somewhere between puberty and late teens (I donít count Martin Lewis in this obviously) and we all have an affection for our first kiss with music, which lasts our entire life, but why does that mean music from earlier or later years is not for us, surely, like most things; some is, some isnít. If we shut ourselves off to the idea, in a, oh that music is just for young people or thatís just for old folk, kind of way, then we have stopped living. Music is the heartbeat of life, thereís so much of it out there but that is just a tiny fraction of what is yet to come. Why would anyone want to miss out on that? I grew up in the 70s/80s but my favourite music era is the late 50s and some 60s before I was bornĖ I have a thing for some Disco music and Punk Rock, equally though, I like lots of modern and new stuff too. Never really got all that Acid-House music and Rave stuff but some of it is ok for dancing. Surely music is just music, you can love it or loathe it at any age.


Interesting point about the different genres of music as well.
Why do some people hold up their hands in horror at the mere mention of jazz, or folk, opera or punk? I forget who it was who said that classifying music into thousands of categories was pure nonsense - the only thing that counts is good music - but he was right. Unless it's totally out of tune most music is good, (some of it might be so repetitive that it gets on our nerves, or played so often that it does - but it's good), and most of us are fortunate to appreciate that.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rachel wrote:
What I donít understand is why people in general (no one in particular) think that music, even Radio Programmes, comes in age groups.

Yeah, I got mad at a girl at the pub quiz last week when a question was asked about an album from 1981 and she just said "I dunno, before I was born" as if that's any excuse! Good music is timeless.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ken Bruce is right when he says that 'not being born yet' isn't really an excuse. If I ever had the nerve to ring up and have a go at Popmaster I'm just as likely not to know something from recent years. Why not be honest and just say 'I don't know'.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get annoyed when people say "Bit before my time" too. Grrrrr
I remember a girl saying that on Never Mind The Buzzcocks and Mark Lamarr said "Have you ever heard of Jesus Christ?"
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There seems no logic with these 'before my time' people.
This morning the woman, when asked a 70s question, said the inevitable 'that was before my time'. She then got two 60s questions right.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thought of this thread when I heard her this morning, crazy. Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Schizoidman wrote:
There seems no logic with these 'before my time' people.
This morning the woman, when asked a 70s question, said the inevitable 'that was before my time'. She then got two 60s questions right.


I'm not sure about this, I have an era that I think I'm pretty hot on but I know a lot of music from all era's/ genre's but I only know obvious stuff from these other times. I'm more likely to know some of the throw away stuff from my "time"
It really depends on what those 60's questions were
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