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Schizoidman · Joined: 20 Sep 2010 Posts: 1140 Location: Rural West Sussex

Yes, I love both versions of Black Magic Woman. We mustn't forget Jeremy Spencer's slide guitar which made a valuable contribution to the early Mac's success.

I agree it was good to hear The Gun's Race With The Devil on SOTS, great guitar work on that too: a song you never hear on 80s obsessed Radio 2, though it did feature last December when POTP did 1968.

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becky sharp · Joined: 01 Dec 2008 Posts: 6858

A nice song on this morning (David McWilliams ~ For Josephine) I don't think I've heard before.

ruddlescat · Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 18010 Location: Near Chester

I enjoyed the show today - good to hear the Jefferson track on there as well as my all time favourite Small Faces one

I think SOTS has improved considerably in the last few weeks - lets just hope it lasts Smile

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iwarburton · Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 2133 Location: Northumberland

I boasted on our Facebook page that I'd got the loose connection right, only for another participant to tell me how easy this week's was!

Ian.

Helen May · Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19391 Location: Cheshire

Loved the Jefferson track as well Ruddles.

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Schizoidman · Joined: 20 Sep 2010 Posts: 1140 Location: Rural West Sussex

Yes, the David McWilliams song was good. I didn't know he was from N Ireland. I always assumed he was American.
And it was nice to hear In My Minds Eye. Radio 2, and other bland broadcasters, always seem to think that the only Small Faces hit was Itchycoo Park Sad

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Schizoidman · Joined: 20 Sep 2010 Posts: 1140 Location: Rural West Sussex

Looking at the playlists for both SOT60s and SOT70s for Saturday I see that Smokey Robinson's Tears Of A Clown was played on both!
Both decades of course have a claim on the song, as it reached no 1 in 1970 but was initially released in1967.

It was nice to hear Here Comes The Nice by The Small Faces. Makes a change from Itchycoo Park! All in all, a very good SOT60s.

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becky sharp · Joined: 01 Dec 2008 Posts: 6858

"Drop dead gorgeous ...beautiful Bobbie Gentry" ....Brian is obviously a fan ... Very Happy

Listening to It's My Life by The Animals it struck me I have very little by them ...must go on a search for a best of...

I'd completely forgotten that Abergavenny was sung by Marty Wilde...what a happy little ditty it is..

Tom Dors · Joined: 11 Aug 2008 Posts: 64

A couple of quibbles regarding today's edition. Phil May isn't the guitarist in the Pretty Things, and Bracelets Of Fingers isn't the opening track of their album SF Sorrow.

RockitRon · Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 7646

Odd, isn't it, since such information is easily obtained from not only the CD used but also many sources on the internet.

As I've said before, I think he (PS) does it just to make sure we're all awake, or to wind up the enthusiasts.
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becky sharp · Joined: 01 Dec 2008 Posts: 6858

I found it rather odd listening to the show yesterday,after all the revelations of the past few weeks, that Brian chose for the Loose Connections feature the first three records played on the first TOTP in 1964 ... ..

I didn't know Bryan Ferry's Let's Stick Together was a cover ....I've never heard of the composer (Wilbert Harrison) of it who sang it on yesterday's programme

iwarburton · Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 2133 Location: Northumberland

I thought that, too. Wonder when this week's edition was recorded?

Ian.

Schizoidman · Joined: 20 Sep 2010 Posts: 1140 Location: Rural West Sussex

Becky: Brian Ferry's song was more or less a cover of Canned Heat's Let's Work Together.

In fact, most of his songs were covers!

oldraver · Joined: 18 Dec 2006 Posts: 1190 Location: London

Oddly enough, Wilbert released Let's Work Together AND Let's Stick Together, in 1969. Both sound exactly the same apart from that one word.

The Canned Heat version was the first I ever heard. I loved it when I bought the single, also in '69, and I still prefer it to any of the others, especially Bryan's, with Jerry Hall doing the yee hahs....

Wilbert also did the original of Kansas City, which Les Fabs did a decent cover of, not written by him, but Lieber and Stoller.
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becky sharp · Joined: 01 Dec 2008 Posts: 6858

Thanks for the information,S'man and raver.... Smile

(Nice avatar,raver)

Schizoidman · Joined: 20 Sep 2010 Posts: 1140 Location: Rural West Sussex

Canned Heat's song is probably one of my favourite rock tracks of all time. They also did a good version of Rollin' and Tumblin'.

becky sharp · Joined: 01 Dec 2008 Posts: 6858

Great three in a row this morning... Mama from Connie Francis,same again from Roy Orbison which has me in tears every time I hear it (it's the voice) ending with the very sweet Mama from Dave Berry.

ruddlescat · Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 18010 Location: Near Chester

I thought the show was truly dreadful this morning - one of the worst I have heard in the last few years Sad

Far too much concentration on early 60's music to the exclusion of tracks from the middle and latter part of the decade

In fact as I switched the radio on about 5 minutes after the show had started I firstly assumed it was some kind of special show concentrating on the pre Beatles period but then I realised it was simply the producer indulging his own pet likes yet again Mad

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RockitRon · Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 7646

ruddlescat · Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 18010 Location: Near Chester

Now how did I guess Ron that you'd be on here as soon as any comments are made about the excess of pre 1963 tracks on SOTS Rolling Eyes

Of course you are absolutely correct in mentioning the obscurity of most of the music played on today's show which entirely supports what I have been saying for months - I don't want to hear tracks which were hardly ever played on radio the first time round - I want to hear again tracks which I actually remember although probably not those played daily on mainstream radio

And yes - why is Phil Swern including tracks released in 1959 simply because they might have achieved chart placings and probably very low chart placings in 1960 - to me it simply proves that he obviously regards SOTS as his own pet project and takes the view to hell with the listeners if they don't like it Mad

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Helen May · Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19391 Location: Cheshire

Missed most of SOTS, switched on to 'My Generation'. I don't mind early 60s tracks but I do mind the fact that many are so obscure.

I've not heard a whole show for ages but when I check the playlist, in the hope I may have missed a gem, I'm hardly ever tempted to listen back these days. Maybe I'm spoiled by my internet station 181.FM and their 'Goodtime Oldies' section, with tracks from 50s and 60s and hardly an ad.

I was tempted to listen back for Gary Lewis and the Playboys............

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ruddlescat · Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 18010 Location: Near Chester

I'm not complaining about the show playing music which is out of the ordinary Ron but like Helen says I do object to the show being stuffed full of obscurities which most of us have never even heard of

And why is it that on several occasions I've heard listeners request tracks released in early 1970 and each time they have not been played with Brian saying that they are outside the show's remit yet they can quite happily play tracks released in 1959 even though those tracks are equally outside the remit Rolling Eyes

The clue in in the title of the show 'Sounds Of the Sixties' or in other words music which listeners will remember from that time - perhaps the title should be changed to 'Reject Sounds of the Sixties' Smile

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Angela W · Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 7229 Location: North Yorkshire

Its all down to your own personal taste really, I enjoyed the show this morning especially Angela Jones and Cindy's birthday which I haven't heard for a long time.

I don't often get to hear SOTS because I usually have to work on Saturdays, perhaps that is why I enjoy it more! Wink

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Schizoidman · Joined: 20 Sep 2010 Posts: 1140 Location: Rural West Sussex

Well, there were only seven songs from 1967-69 and four of them were obscurities. I agree with Helen and Ruddles that SOTS should really play fewer obscurities and a few more songs from the later years (having said that, there were some classics from the mid 60s: All Or Nothing, Mama, Friday On My Mind, Where Did Our Love Go, My Generation).

We need SOTS, it's a matter of getting the balance right. It's still a very good programme packed with info and better than SOT70s.

R2Icon · Joined: 10 Sep 2009 Posts: 1444

For some of us: all the tracks are quite obscure- cos we we're too young/didn't exist at the time to hear them, so it's good to hear any and all tracks. They're all as valid as each other to someone whom hasn't heard any of them before. Smile

Helen May · Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19391 Location: Cheshire

Maybe Rachel, but to me Sounds Of The Sixties implies that the songs they play are 'THE sounds of the Sixties'. If half of them are so obscure how on earth can they be described as one of THE sounds so the decade.

Just to make a point Brian will mention the name of an artist who had a minor hit (a good reason to play it as it wouldn't have been played to death on the few stations around at the time). Then rather than play that song he proceeds to play the 'b' side of the next single they put out, the 'a' side of which died a death, so not surprisingly nobody has heard it or even wants to!

Hope that makes some kind of sense.

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R2Icon · Joined: 10 Sep 2009 Posts: 1444

That does make sense, Helen... it would be, I guess, like playing the B side of a Captain Sensible* single in a Sounds of the 80s Show.

* maybe that should have been Captain Beaky and his band.... I'm always getting them mixed up. Smile

becky sharp · Joined: 01 Dec 2008 Posts: 6858

I don't expect to like all the music that is played on a weekly two hour specialist show but love enough of what is played (obscure ones included) to keep me tuning in every week so as far as I'm concerned Sounds of the Sixties is consistently doing a good job.

I enjoyed hearing That's What I Want by The Marauders again on Saturday and looking on-line I found the highest position it reached was 43 ...so not a huge hit but not obscure either ....I like such inclusions....I don't just want to hear the big hits of the day.

The message from me is "Carry on what you're doing,SOTS"....as far as I'm concerned (again) it's a winner and a must listen every week

ruddlescat · Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 18010 Location: Near Chester

I take your point Rach but for me the problem is that someone like you who was born in the late sixties who doesn't remember any of the music of that decade first hand for obvious reasons might get a completely false and inaccurate impression of what 60's music in Britain was all about unless shows like SOTS actually play a representative selection of what was played on radio and elsewhere at that time

People of your age could even develop a huge dislike of sixties music based on completely duff information - not that I'm suggesting that it applies in your case but I'm sure you get what I am saying Smile

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ruddlescat · Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 18010 Location: Near Chester

Rach, I wasn't telling anyone off - I was just making the point that although you know the position because like most of us you are rather a music buff other people of your age who were either not around or very young in the sixties could get an unrepresentative picture of the music of that decade if they based their view on much of the obscure stuff played on SOTS Smile

And as for Ron's point - no I don't want to hear obscure tracks from the thirties or forties or indeed any other decade on that type of show

I don't say that such music should not be played on radio but certainly not in a prime time weekend slot - it's far more appropriate for a specialist evening programme Smile

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oldraver · Joined: 18 Dec 2006 Posts: 1190 Location: London

Thoroughly enjoyed last week's, as per. Nice mix of all years, and obscure b-sides. What's not to like..? It'd soon get boring if it turned into a "best of". Whilst there are always songs on there that I've never heard, and in all truthfulness, wouldn't care if I never heard again, I'm also aware that they mean something to someone, even if that someone happens to be Phil Swern. Still the best programme on R2, and such a lovely way to usher in the weekend.

I prefer the mid to late 60's, but if that's all I want to hear, I'll stick a compilation CD on the stereo. I like hearing stuff I've never heard before, even if it grates.
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iwarburton · Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 2133 Location: Northumberland

Well said, my friend!

Ian.

Helen May · Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19391 Location: Cheshire

A good show yesterday, with quite a few I'd not heard in a while. See You In September from the Happenings, Sunday Will Never Be The Same from Spanky and Our Gang and Sweet Blindness from the Fifth Dimension were just a few. Gene Pitney was another.

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becky sharp · Joined: 01 Dec 2008 Posts: 6858

I love See You In September,Helen...I have it by The Tempos on the American Grafitti cd ..

I don't think the term mmm, mmm was ever used to greater effect then when Ben E King used it, in that rich chocolaty voice of his, on Save The Last Dance For Me.....mmm

ruddlescat · Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 18010 Location: Near Chester

I agree with Helen's comments - THE 'Spanky' track is one of my all time favourites rarely ever played on British radio these days Sad

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