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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 7:56 pm    Post subject: Vanessa Feltz - Early Breakfast Show Reply with quote

Let me begin to welcome Vanessa Feltz to Radio 2. Please discuss anything you like about her new early breakfast show.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was fairly safe and fairly bland- I think we should see how she develops the show over the next week week or two then see how she's getting on.
PS: Mark- when will you finish welcoming Vanessa to R2?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like it ( The great thing about that is, no one can disagree with it, well actually that's not quite true cos you could say- "no you don't" but that wouldn't be true so there!)
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:20 am    Post subject: Re: Vanessa Feltz - Early Breakfast Show Reply with quote

mark occomore wrote:
Let me begin to welcome Vanessa Feltz to Radio 2. Please discuss anything you like about her new early breakfast show.


It's drab.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:26 am    Post subject: Re: Vanessa Feltz - Early Breakfast Show Reply with quote

ColinB wrote:
mark occomore wrote:
Let me begin to welcome Vanessa Feltz to Radio 2. Please discuss anything you like about her new early breakfast show.


It's drab.


Which definition do you mean, Colin?

a. Of a dull grayish to yellowish brown.
b. Of a light olive brown or khaki color.
2. Faded and dull in appearance.
3. Dull or commonplace in character; dreary: a drab personality.

PS What happened to your Avatar ? Worried about Stalkers?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:32 am    Post subject: Re: Vanessa Feltz - Early Breakfast Show Reply with quote

Rachel wrote:
ColinB wrote:
mark occomore wrote:
Let me begin to welcome Vanessa Feltz to Radio 2. Please discuss anything you like about her new early breakfast show.


It's drab.


Which definition do you mean, Colin?


It's drab!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:41 am    Post subject: Re: Vanessa Feltz - Early Breakfast Show Reply with quote

ColinB wrote:
Rachel wrote:
ColinB wrote:
mark occomore wrote:
Let me begin to welcome Vanessa Feltz to Radio 2. Please discuss anything you like about her new early breakfast show.


It's drab.


Which definition do you mean, Colin?


It's drab!


I like a man who knows his own mind. Smile Drab... hmmmmmm well at least that means there's room for improvement; perhaps over time we can add a bit of sparkle to make you smile.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I suppose you could say that there's too much from the newspapers in it - in fact there was nothing else this morning - but at least it wasn't from the tabloids and it was delivered with a smile on her face. The selection of music was good too.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the gardening bit- what we should be doing- outside at this time of year - do me a favour! Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know. I keep looking... it looked much better under six inches of snow Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:17 am    Post subject: Re: Vanessa Feltz - Early Breakfast Show Reply with quote

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I like a man who knows his own mind. Smile Drab... hmmmmmm well at least that means there's room for improvement; perhaps over time we can add a bit of sparkle to make you smile.


Drab, drab, drab! Awful rubbish that isn't befitting of a large national radio network. It's all "local radio gone national" - which of course is what she's been doing up until now.

I listened to her for about 15 minutes this morning before switching off just before the fool came on at 6.30am and that was enough.

Drab, drab, drab radio! Did I mention that I thought it to be drab?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:31 am    Post subject: Re: Vanessa Feltz - Early Breakfast Show Reply with quote

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Drab, drab, drab! Awful rubbish that isn't befitting of a large national radio network. It's all "local radio gone national" - which of course is what she's been doing up until now.

I listened to her for about 15 minutes this morning before switching off just before the fool came on at 6.30am and that was enough.

Drab, drab, drab radio! Did I mention that I thought it to be drab?


Itís called career progression, Colin. Most national DJs/presenters started out at some backwater local station Ė that is the way of the world. There is no Uni Degree course at the end of which- you instantaneously become a National Radio Mega-star, you have to work at it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, it's not drab, by any of those definitions.

You're very hard to please, CB... you don't like lively, "nobody sleeps while I'm on"... you don't like a lot of texts and emails (which are only the same as all the postcards DJs read out in days of yore)... you don't like the cosy, girly Sarah/Tarbuck chat... and you don't like the newspaper reviews, be they the trashy celeb/soap sort or the lighter bits from the broadsheets.

The early morning island between Alex and Chris is presumably briefed to provide a contrast (what other reason is there for its existence?), which it does.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RockitRon wrote:
No, it's not drab, by any of those definitions.


What I heard was drab.

RockitRon wrote:
You're very hard to please, CB... you don't like lively, "nobody sleeps while I'm on"... you don't like a lot of texts and emails (which are only the same as all the postcards DJs read out in days of yore)... you don't like the cosy, girly Sarah/Tarbuck chat... and you don't like the newspaper reviews, be they the trashy celeb/soap sort or the lighter bits from the broadsheets.


Correct on all counts. (Well, except that I do like "lively" - just not a certain sort of "lively").

RockitRon wrote:
The early morning island between Alex and Chris is presumably briefed to provide a contrast (what other reason is there for its existence?), which it does.


Alex is good (he's a very good, and under-rated, broadcaster). Then it gets drab. And then childish. Doesn't matter though - I've moved away to better options so those that love "drab" and "childish" have plenty to be happy with!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I didn't listen, she put me in a bad mood all day yesterday and life's too short already.

It's the woman's yappy voice which is too high, in a similar fashion to Evans. I like very few female broadcasters, it's the high pitch of their voices that grates.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Helen May wrote:
It's the woman's yappy voice which is too high, in a similar fashion to Evans.


I can only agree on both counts!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PJ in Kent wrote:
It was fairly safe and fairly bland- I think we should see how she develops the show over the next week week or two then see how she's getting on.
PS: Mark- when will you finish welcoming Vanessa to R2?


Interestingly, there's an article on the Telegraph website on "why she won't startle the early birds".

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/8264077/Vanessa-Feltz-on-why-she-wont-startle-the-early-birds.html

ColinB wrote:
Awful rubbish that isn't befitting of a large national radio network. It's all "local radio gone national" - which of course is what she's been doing up until now.


Surely "local radio gone national" is national radio? Confused

I should point out that I'm not keen on her BBC London programme, where all she does is talk for three hours, and occasionally she might let someone else talk for a couple of seconds.

But I like the format of the early morning show, the music breaks it up a bit and makes it acceptable that she always has something to say.

I don't buy newspapers that often, maybe the Telegraph once or twice, so to have someone like Vanessa to read various stories from the papers is something I quite like. And its not just the big national papers - I think I heard her mention something from the Worcester News yesterday.

In a way its sort of similar to Sarah Kennedy's format - the music breaks up the chat. A different type of chat, maybe; both still are very different on-hair personalities. But both the Kennedy and Feltz programmes were/are a general mix of news and chat, with added music.

On a final note, there are always people who are going to disagree with new presenters joining any radio station; Vanessa coming to Radio 2 is no different, and neither should anyone expect it to be. My grandparents don't really like Alex Lester or Radcliffe and Maconie - but that doesn't make them bad broadcasters, does it?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fred wrote:
Surely "local radio gone national" is national radio? Confused


I'm referring to style - it has a "local radio" style to it.

Fred wrote:
On a final note, there are always people who are going to disagree with new presenters joining any radio station; Vanessa coming to Radio 2 is no different, and neither should anyone expect it to be. My grandparents don't really like Alex Lester or Radcliffe and Maconie - but that doesn't make them bad broadcasters, does it?


The difference is that they aren't bad broadcasters!
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"what we should be doing- outside at this time of year"

This year I have mostly been wearing a ski jacket and I don't ski.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Vanessa Feltz - Early Breakfast Show Reply with quote

ColinB wrote:
Drab, drab, drab! Awful rubbish that isn't befitting of a large national radio network. It's all "local radio gone national" - which of course is what she's been doing up until now.


I always think the same of most standins and their texting / email drivel that should be left to local or commercial stations Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can someone please change the record Mad
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Can someone please change the record Mad


There's only two records we play in here. There's the we like it Record and then there's the that other one- Well we don't like it Record. Which one are you talking about?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ruddlescat wrote:
Can someone please change the record Mad


Which one would you like ? Very Happy
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Preferably one that avoids the words 'text' and 'e mail' and come to think of it 'stand in'

Nod,I have every respect for what you are saying but it does get rather boring when every post contains the same information

We all know you hate shows which include these things and that's fair enough
Do you keep mentioning the subject in order to wind people up or are you doing it for a bet?

Do I detect a bit of mischief here Confused
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vanessa is on The One Show tonight. She does look a little tired. I noticed she does put on a different voice for Radio 2.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mark occomore wrote:
Vanessa is on The One Show tonight. She does look a little tired. I noticed she does put on a different voice for Radio 2.


And face!
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ColinB wrote:
mark occomore wrote:
Vanessa is on The One Show tonight. She does look a little tired. I noticed she does put on a different voice for Radio 2.


And face!


Make-up for the radio Laughing. Vanessa told " The One Show" - ' She gets up at 3.50am, must only live around the corner from Radio 2. Laughing
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mark occomore wrote:
ColinB wrote:
mark occomore wrote:
Vanessa is on The One Show tonight. She does look a little tired. I noticed she does put on a different voice for Radio 2.


And face!


Make-up for the radio Laughing. Vanessa told " The One Show" - ' She gets up at 3.50am, must only live around the corner from Radio 2. Laughing


I wasn't really thinking of make-up!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you're all very cruel.

She hasn't got a soft face but she's not ugly.
She mentioned make-up tonight - her 3.50 alarm doesn't give her much time for it - I'm sure there will be a photographer handy to record the odd morning she goes without.

Her voice in normal conversation is actually quite low, but when projected for radio goes up an octave, and there's quite a lot of sibilance. This might improve as she relaxes a bit. However, despite speaking quite quickly, she is very clear - you can hear and understand every word she says, which is more than you can say for some R2 presenters, news and traffic people.

The newspaper interviews suggested that she's been given carte blanche (and that she was first choice for the slot - I detected some incredulity about that!). As I suspected she would, she acknowledges that what's not required at 5am is the more strident and trashy side of her broadcasting persona.

I don't see why everyone gets on their high horse about texts and emails. They all do it - it's unfair to criticise some and not others - and it's only the 21st century equivalent of the postcard or phone message which they've relied on since day one.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's the point I have been banging on about for several weeks Ron

Certain posters here seem to have an obsession about certain presenters being too heavily reliant on texts and e mails but the fact is it's a part of modern life and all presenters do it to some extent

Even though I don't like Ms Feltz I wouldn't criticise her on that particular point

Modern technology is a fact of life and people need to adjust to it
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That may be true, Ruddles (I'm a fervent supporter of uses for new technology when it makes life easier and more interesting for me) but the problem arises with radio presenters who seem entirely reliant of such approaches as a mask for their own inadequacies as broadcasters.

There are plenty of good radio stations - Radio Caroline and Planet Rock being two of my current favourites - that make occasional use of such "listener input" without it becoming tedious. Sadly, Radio 2 employs a fair few presenters (Evans, Wright and others) who couldn't last a minute without reading reams of silly texts and emails from listeners.

It's a question of balance, but many Radio 2 shows seem to have lost grip and - to me at least - it's just annoying.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Completely agree Colin - no-one minds the odd e-mail/text but as you say certain "presenters" rely on them almost exclusively. Without them and "Factoids" what would SW do? Rolling Eyes (sing annoyingly over tracks I suppose!)
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It's a fine line as to which is worse MiS Laughing

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps I'm unusual but it really doesn't bother me

To me e mail and texts are just the modern version of listeners writing in

I suppose others would say that the presenter controls the agenda with texts and e mails but if you have a sensible presenter it's not a problem

As for Steve Wright I have long said his format is old and outdated and so I can't argue with what has been said
Dale Winton was much better but I don't suppose we'll see him for a while if he's living in Florida
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MadeinSurrey wrote:
- no-one minds the odd e-mail/text


I send in odd e-mails really often but they only get read-out on the night-time shows... Smile

emails and texts are good when they are thread driven and relevant in the context of the show. I donít like random-topic pointless e-mails, although every now and again they can spawn and interesting thread but that is quite rare.

Vanessa was sounding chirpy this morning. It's a tough old thing to sound that happy at that time of the day.
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I bet some of yours ARE odd, Rach!! Laughing

I get fed up with those from people who are "driving to Cleethorpes with my girlfriend. Plesae say hello to her"....say it yourself loser Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes those sort MiS, are pointless - they boil down to, "please say my name on the radio". It would save a lot of time and effort if those DJs just read out extracts from the phone book.
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I bet some of yours ARE odd, Rach!! Laughing

I get fed up with those from people who are "driving to Cleethorpes with my girlfriend. Plesae say hello to her"....say it yourself loser Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes


hey MiS whats wrong with the place I live
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No offence, Tiny...name was first that came into my head. That must be a good thing? Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No offence taken but i gotta agree with you.
the number of times you here texts from people sitting in same car/room/etc who want to say something to them
sunday love songs is a perfect example
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