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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zoe Ball now lost another 364,000 listeners, taking her to 7.9m - the lowest point since Wogan in 2009. This time last year Evans was getting 8.8m.

Evans himself, over at Virgin, has stalled. He's only added 3000 listeners this quarter and people are listening to him less.

The nationwide Heart breakfast with Jamie Theakston is up slightly but I suspect overrall still down on what the individual stations were getting. Greatest Hits Radio's attempt to nationalise is a disaster. Here in Lancashire they've gone from 77k to 11k in the quarter!

Most of the national BBC stations are static or dropping but the BBC say podcast listening is on the up (by 40% this quarter, they reckon) which does mean RAJARs are starting to look like an even poorer way of measuring listeners.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Again I'm not surprised that the figures have fallen.

I'm not listening to much radio at the moment, not sure why but it's harder to find something that keeps my attention. Having huge parts of the day where I just don't turn on Radio 2 at all doesn't help either!

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe radio, like TV has changed in the way viewers and listeners tune in.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oldraver wrote:
Maybe radio, like TV has changed in the way viewers and listeners tune in.
I think it has. I think people mix and match the music and audio they listen to. Audiobook and podcast listening is on the rise, presumably at the slight expense of traditional radio.

For me, the Zoe Ball show is always too busy. There seems to be a guest everyday in attempt to 'go viral' and I'm not convinced that's really what people want to listen to while driving to work or having breakfast.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I gave up listening to Zoe Ball months ago. The show is too 'girlie' and I can't stand the pointless live cover versions that the guests sing.

I'm glad she's losing listeners, and I actually prefer Evans on Virgin.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Happy RAJARs day everyone!

Not much to report except that Zoe Ball and Radio 2 have reversed their decline and are on 8.2m and 14.48m listeners respectively. All the BBC stations except Radio 1 are back up, while nearly all the Heart and Capital stations are down.

Almost all those local stations that were replaced by national output have seen figures fall, while BBC local radio has gone up slightly and new digital stations (such as Scala) have done OK.

Classic FM is also up, with Tim Lihoreau on 1.8m at breakfast. Absolute Radio's Dave Berry gets 2.2m while Chris Evans (who? - Ed.) is stuck on 1.1m on whatever station he left Radio 2 for.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's strange then because on the Today programme this morning they said Zoe Ball had lost a million listeners since she took over from the ginger whinger.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that maybe it means she lost 1.14 million listeners before pulling 335,000 back over the last quarter of 2019, Angela.

If anyone has found a remotely decent breakfast show, then all suggestions gratefully received. To my knowledge, none exist. I find doing random Listen Again progs, like Soul Music or DID, are more suited to my delicate self.

BTW, I believe the licence fee is worth it for the radio alone...these Orwellian philistines must not be allowed to spread any more of their political manure over our green and pleasant land. Which wouldn't be the 'Churchillian paradise' they claim to want to revisit, if it wasn't for the good old BBC.

Mind you...that Tony Hall has been a total disaster. As are most of the management. Why, he even signed up for Brit Box! Who would pay to watch repeats? Clearly these people don't even watch TV. Off with their heads. Don't think they've had a decent DG since Blll Cotton.

Sorry...gone off on one there. Time for my medication.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's them that need the medication not you Raver!!

Totally agree about Tony Hall and especially Brit Box Rolling Eyes

As for a breakfast show can you get Magic Soul in your area? I don't think I can apart from online. Richard Allinson is there 7am-10am so he's been saying all this week while on Drivetime there. I'm trying to get organised so I can get into the habit of using my tablet instead of the radio (once I've got up that is!) so I may give him a try.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can get Magic Soul, H. I'll have to check on the DAB n the kitchen, but I certainly get it on my portable DAB, which is DAB , apparently, which means I can get Gold on that one, but not the kitchen Roberts.

I do like Magic Soul, until they play something I'm not over keen on, then I just flick through stations until I do. If I'm sitting on a sweltering swimming baths balcony for a couple of hours watching my granddaughter training, it helps to pass the time. I'm sure the other spectators think I'm utterly mad and they'd probably be right, sitting there with earphones in and tapping my feet to the beat. It saves me having to make conversation!

So tomorrow morning, I'll tune in to see if Richard is still on. Sounds like he's covering for someone. I read something earlier in the week about Magic, which was very complimentary. I just wish someone would open a 50/60's station. It should be the Beeb, as all they're done with R2 essentially, is to try and compete with the commercial stations, which shouldn't be their remit at all. Steve Wright played Buddy's Everyday yesterday and said 'genius'. We know that, Steve. Tell your bosses!

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2020/feb/04/magic-radio-indestructible-easy-listening-streaming
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Angela W wrote:
That's strange then because on the Today programme this morning they said Zoe Ball had lost a million listeners since she took over from the ginger whinger.

Yes, that's what I mean by "reversing her decline" - Zoe debuted with 9m but it fell to 7.9m last quarter and is now back up to 8.2m. So the Today Show are wrong!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed re: Tony Hall. He's been a useless DG and jumping ship as its about to get more difficult shows what sort of man he is.

As for BritBox - it's a good idea in theory. If there was more obscure archive stuff on there it'd be great, but not having it available as an app on Roku, Amazon, Now etc is just daft. As is not having BBC Sounds as an app on televisions. This is basic stuff.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I just wish someone would open a 50/60's station. It should be the Beeb, as all they're done with R2 essentially, is to try and compete with the commercial stations, which shouldn't be their remit at all. Steve Wright played Buddy's Everyday yesterday and said 'genius'. We know that, Steve. Tell your bosses!


I wish they would too!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Angela W wrote:
oldraver wrote:

I just wish someone would open a 50/60's station. It should be the Beeb, as all they're done with R2 essentially, is to try and compete with the commercial stations, which shouldn't be their remit at all. Steve Wright played Buddy's Everyday yesterday and said 'genius'. We know that, Steve. Tell your bosses!


I wish they would too!


Count me in on that one as well!

I think you may get Soul on your DAB Raver but it's not in our area unfortunately. I need to do a re tune of my Roberts that lives in the kitchen (the 83i which I think sounds better than the 93i which is upstairs). Neither are bluetooth so the tablet and it won't work Sad .
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I wonder if 'Alexa' can get stations that you wouldn't normally reach, H?

Not that I'm suggesting you get one. But just curious. If anyone out of the Magic reach has one of these things, then maybe you could ask 'her'.

But I understand if you don't want to admit to having one...and I certainly don't.

Have one, that is... Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL @Raver!

I'm not sure about Alexa, I was given one (by a youngster Wink) but it's still in its box in a cupboard where it will stay......

I emailed Richard A to ask if it was on DAB and his reply was DAB+ followed by 'don't ask'......! Neither of my Roberts are DAB+. The next one after my newer one is I think, the Stream94i

You can get it on a phone or tablet but I don't know about you but it's a faff especially in the morning....... I just want to flick a switch on the radio at that time of day!

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Helen May wrote:
LOL @Raver!

I'm not sure about Alexa, I was given one (by a youngster Wink) but it's still in its box in a cupboard where it will stay......

I emailed Richard A to ask if it was on DAB and his reply was DAB+ followed by 'don't ask'......! Neither of my Roberts are DAB+. The next one after my newer one is I think, the Stream94i

You can get it on a phone or tablet but I don't know about you but it's a faff especially in the morning....... I just want to flick a switch on the radio at that time of day!

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Alexa will oblige,Helen - I tried it before. I love my Alexa, bought for me by a youngster - my son. Very Happy
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Helen May wrote:
LOL @Raver!

I'm not sure about Alexa, I was given one (by a youngster Wink) but it's still in its box in a cupboard where it will stay......

I emailed Richard A to ask if it was on DAB and his reply was DAB+ followed by 'don't ask'......! Neither of my Roberts are DAB+. The next one after my newer one is I think, the Stream94i

You can get it on a phone or tablet but I don't know about you but it's a faff especially in the morning....... I just want to flick a switch on the radio at that time of day!

H


I left the '+' off my portable DAB post, H. I meant to type it in, but didn't, it appears (or doesn't appear).

My kitchen Roberts isn't. Also, these DAB + ones automatically update new channels. Which isn't always a good thing, as I still have the R2 Beatles pop-up channel on it...
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some much needed good news (no, Boris hasn't resigned)

Carnage is leaving!!!

https://www.musicweek.com/media/read/radio-2-boss-lewis-carnie-quits-the-bbc/078895
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oldraver wrote:
Some much needed good news (no, Boris hasn't resigned)

Carnage is leaving!!!

https://www.musicweek.com/media/read/radio-2-boss-lewis-carnie-quits-the-bbc/078895

Hmm. BBC appoints a "head of pop" and within 3 months both controllers leave. I'm not especially optimistic about what happens next.
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My first thought when I saw it was 'great' but like Ian you wonder who we will get in his place. He has been a disaster though.

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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2020 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Latest RAJARs are out today and everyone's interpreting them differently to claim victory!

The headline is that Radio 2 has lost about a million listeners over the past year, going from 15.3m this time last year to 14.3m

Zoe Ball is still the country's top breakfast show, but on 8.1m from 9m 12 months ago. (If you think that's bad, Roman Kemp has lost nearly half-a-million just in 3 months on Capital)

Heart's Jamie and Amanda have also lost listeners but nearly every other breakfast show has gone up, including Chris Evans at Virgin, Chris Moyles at Radio X and Tim at Classic FM. Lauren Laverne has got 6Music's highest-ever breakfast ratings.

Generally, listening to BBC stations has dropped 3.2% and listening to commercial stations has gone up 3.6%. Just seems to be so many commercial stations now they're chipping away at the BBC just in sheer volume even if individually some of them aren't doing that well.

One digital-only stand-out for me is Scala, which has added 25% to it's 2019 audience - now on 310,000 listeners.
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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2020 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've started listening to Julia Hartley-Brewer's breakfast show on Talk Radio, refreshing change from Five Live and Radio 4.
Still try and listen to SoTs with Tony B, Gambo and Johnny Walker but currently more on catch-up than live
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