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mark occomore
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 9955 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 3:52 pm Post subject: Chip And Bin |
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People who fail to recycle household rubbish could have to pay more than those who do, under plans to cut waste.
Environment Secretary David Miliband wants English councils to be able to bring in charges - and to give cash "rewards" for those who recycle.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6685409.stm
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Many years ago the councils used to run the dustmen, now they are private contractors. So basically if the government is going to introduce this idea then you will get monkeys working for peanuts. So who is going to scan the chips? If it's the binmen then the job will take 10 seconds more per household. You wont see a rebate on your council tax bill. This country is becoming very, very creedy, and people have got to wake up and stop letting them spy on us and treating the public who pay their wages like idiots. |
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John W
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 3367 Location: Warwickshire, UK
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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Eh?
Most of the 'household rubbish' that we generate is stuff we didn't want in the first place, like plastic packaging for food, polystyrene packaging etc. Shops force us to 'buy' this stuff when we buy food and other goods, and now we have to pay to get rid of it.......
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Cherskiy
Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 3701 Location: near Amble, Northumberland
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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Our council tells us we have to put our wheelie bins out on the pavement for collection - the end of the drive isn't good enough. The binmen come around sometimes at 0800 or so, before some of my neighbours are up and about, so the later risers are forced to leave their bins out on the street overnight. However, the local police force are running a campaign to tell people not to leave their wheelie bins out on the street overnight in case they are damaged - the council charge residents for replacements.
What's to stop anyone putting their rubbish in your bin and getting a bigger rebate because they're throwing out less? My bin is put out at around 0630 in the morning, but it might be 1730 or later before I get home again to put it away. How the hell am I supposed to make sure only my rubbish gets put in the bin, or keep it safe from harm? _________________ Author: “To the Ends of the Earth: A Snapshot of Aviation in North-Eastern Siberia, Summer 1992”
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iknewdavidjacobsmum
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 336
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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We here in remote East Sussex have allegedly been issued with 2 wheelie bins and 2 boxes for newspaper and garden waste. We have been told to leave the wheelie bins in exactly the same place as they were delivered, in many cases on the road as most of us don't have pavements.
I await the claims aginst the council for broken limbs.
Only received bin 1 so far, for compost, which I do myself, Oh Lord, I am soon to be a Criminal! |
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Mark Mayhew
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 2897
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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How many of you voted for Blair and his bunch of retards at the last election.
You only have yourselves to blame! |
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Toggy tea slurper Guest
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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John W wrote: |
Most of the 'household rubbish' that we generate is stuff we didn't want in the first place, like plastic packaging for food, polystyrene packaging etc. Shops force us to 'buy' this stuff when we buy food and other goods, and now we have to pay to get rid of it.......
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Exactly, therein lies the problem, could the answer be to dump any access packaging at the supermarket before we take it home.
By the way if I find a chip in my bin, it's coming out!
Scarily like 1984 all this |
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RockitRon
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 7646
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 10:15 am Post subject: |
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Toggy tea slurper wrote: |
By the way if I find a chip in my bin, it's coming out!
Scarily like 1984 all this |
Probably there already, embedded in the handle, if it's a relatively new one (last 3 years). There was a story in the local tv news a few months ago of someone who did remove the chip. The council could tell remotely, charged him for the damage and threatened to prosecute him. _________________ Ron |
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gfloyd
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 4861 Location: Here, There, Everywhere.
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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It makes sense to pay for waste removal by volume. If something is free, people wont value it. Of course refuge services aren't free. There are huge costs associated with landfill that should be passed on to the polluters. _________________ His name was ernie ........ and he drove the fastest milk cart in the west..... |
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firewirefred Guest
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Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 10:25 am Post subject: |
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I think it is very reasonable that The Polluter Should Pay and now that we have been recycling since 1990 we put out very little non-recyclable waste. I would like to see my authority start bi-weekly collections, too.
I do see two problems with Chip and Bin, though. For a start we will see an increase in fly-tipping and we will also see instances of people shoving weighter items in other peoples bins.
And how do you cope with places where lots of people share waste disposal facilities, such as in blocks of flats? |
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seymourwhitebits
Joined: 31 Mar 2007 Posts: 560 Location: Birmingham
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Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 10:48 am Post subject: |
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We are still waiting for our council to hand out the recycling bins/tubs.
You must come to Birmingham and see how you used to live 10 years ago
do not fly tip.................it only encourages the flies bosses to pay 'em less
-Seymour picks up his 2-tone brown lumberjack jacket and heads for the door - _________________ "Timpani!, Timpani!, They've all got it Timpani!"- All drummers know the pain of skin trouble. |
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