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Rachel Guest
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:10 am Post subject: |
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Autobiographies should be banned too. I think I'll write a book. What shall I write about? What do I love? What do I know about? I know! I'll write a book about meeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Nobody cares!
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RockitRon
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 7646
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:13 am Post subject: |
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MadeinSurrey wrote: | It always makes me laugh when so-called "celebs" publish their "autobiographies" (which, of course are no such thing - they have been ghosted Rolling Eyes ) often at the age of 20-something. I believe the latest X-Factory product has done this - anyone on here read it yet Laughing |
ColinB wrote: | Rachel wrote: | There's no point at all reading a biography until after the subject matter is dead. Otherwise you'd never get the full story. |
I agree. The whole point of an autobiography is to get the full story of the subject's life. It should therefore be unlawful for people to compose their autobiography until they've snuffed it.
That will, of course, lead to a degree of predictability in the last sentence in each case: "I'm signing off now because I'm not feeling well". |
That's more or less what the late Frank Muir did, although his autobiography was published a little before he actually died.
I'm with you all on this, and what a waste of time, energy and trees!
Bookshops, already shrinking, could go back to being the small, intimate, peaceful places they were before all the biogs and cookery books came along - might we then discover some decent fiction hitherto hidden deep in the recesses of Waterstones?
The last biography I read was Sheila Hancock's moving account of John Thaw's life, and struggle with the cancer that killed him. Actually, no, that's not true - I did also read Johnnie Walker's, which was quite interesting, but a bit offhand somehow. _________________ Ron |
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ruddlescat
Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 18010 Location: Near Chester
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:34 am Post subject: |
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What I find annoying is that nowadays these people seem to think that a single autobiography is not enough
They end up publishing one at the age of thirty which is far too young and then have to publish at least one more to cover what happened after the coverage set out in their first effort ended
There should be an unwritten rule that nobody publishes an autobiography until they at least reach retirement age unless there are good reasons to deviate from this - for example if they are diagnosed with a terminal illness at a younger age
This would not prevent them from writing books about specific events which are of general interest but just leave the autobiographical stuff until readers can judge it in the context of a whole lifetime _________________ Are you ready for a Ruddles? |
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ColinB Guest
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 10:04 am Post subject: |
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To be fair, the problem lies with publishers. They all vie with other to sign up the latest celeb flavour of the month because they know there's cashing-in to be had. That's why they bid against each other for deal with our favourite "celebs". With most people's careers being relatively short these days, you can understand why they have to get a book out quickly in order to maximise the profit potential. |
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mark occomore
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 9955 Location: UK
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Rachel Guest
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:06 am Post subject: |
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ESP! This is deja vu... we've been here before. He should get Nick Baines to do it - they sound exactly the same and the Bish will be much cheaper. |
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Blondehedgehog
Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 286 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:50 am Post subject: |
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What happened to the days when presenters could put out a programme on their own?
All the good and great have moved on I suppose.
It is my licence money paying for these extra twats and I object strongly _________________ I like hedgehog crisps |
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Helen May
Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19385 Location: Cheshire
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:35 am Post subject: |
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Couldn't agree more Blondehedgehog! It's a rare treat to have someone sound like they are talking to you the listener and not their sidekick.
H _________________ 88 - 91 FM this is Radio 2 from the BBC!
I said it live on air in the studio with Jeremy Vine on 10/3/2005 |
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Rachel Guest
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:59 am Post subject: |
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Blondehedgehog wrote: | What happened to the days when presenters could put out a programme on their own?
All the good and great have moved on I suppose.
It is my licence money paying for these extra twats and I object strongly |
They put them on at night. Alex Lester is a perfect example. |
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mark occomore
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 9955 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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My speaker was vibrating during the Chris Evans Breakfast Show trailer. |
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Blondehedgehog
Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 286 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for reminding me...must re tune radio station away from R2 for Monday morning _________________ I like hedgehog crisps |
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ColinB Guest
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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mark occomore wrote: | My speaker was vibrating during the Chris Evans Breakfast Show trailer. |
There's a joke response ready and waiting in my head, but I'd better stay on the side of decency!
Blondehedgehog wrote: | Thanks for reminding me...must re tune radio station away from R2 for Monday morning |
We're not far off tuning away for good, to be honest. |
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Angela W
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 7229 Location: North Yorkshire
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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ColinB wrote: | Blondehedgehog wrote: | Thanks for reminding me...must re tune radio station away from R2 for Monday morning |
We're not far off tuning away for good, to be honest. |
Same here, I have not tuned in at all from Monday to Friday this week. I have listened today though (to SOTS and POTP). _________________ Pirate Johnnie Walker played my request on 11 April 2009 |
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ColinB Guest
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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Angela W wrote: | ColinB wrote: | Blondehedgehog wrote: | Thanks for reminding me...must re tune radio station away from R2 for Monday morning |
We're not far off tuning away for good, to be honest. |
Same here, I have not tuned in at all from Monday to Friday this week. I have listened today though (to SOTS and POTP). |
Those are two of the three progs I actually do go out of my way to listen to as well, Angela. The third is Johnnie Walker. That said, I listen to all of them on iPlayer during the following week.
By the way, Rick Wakeman isn't doing his "Rick's Place" show on Planet Rock. David Jensen in now presenting an excellent show between 10.00am and 1.00pm. |
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Minx
Joined: 09 Dec 2006 Posts: 4088 Location: France/Spain/Peterborough/Tenerife
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:22 am Post subject: |
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ColinB wrote: | We're not far off tuning away for good, to be honest. |
We've completely tuned away during the week. We return at the weekends, (though not for Zoe Ball/D O'L spot and the squawking one).
Job done, Mr Shennan. Take a bow. _________________ Minx
To err is human, to forgive - canine. |
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The Great Gildersleeve
Joined: 17 Sep 2010 Posts: 249 Location: North East England
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:52 am Post subject: |
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Many listeners felt the same when Bob was running BBC Radio 5...He joined the Channel 4 bid of starting some DAB stations. That fell through.
The Radio 2 controller resigned over the Ross/Brand debarcle and...Bob now is charge of BBC Radio 2... |
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Helen May
Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19385 Location: Cheshire
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 10:38 am Post subject: |
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Shame Channel 4 dropped out of the DAB thing, we may not have Shennan but then heaven knows who we might have got instead.
H _________________ 88 - 91 FM this is Radio 2 from the BBC!
I said it live on air in the studio with Jeremy Vine on 10/3/2005 |
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The Great Gildersleeve
Joined: 17 Sep 2010 Posts: 249 Location: North East England
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 10:46 am Post subject: |
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Helen, it makes you wonder if there really was so few people to choose from.
Bob signed up Bacon to Radio 5.
When he came back to the BBC(and he was in charge of BBC6 Music too)
He brought in Richard Bacon as a temporary replacement for Jeremy Vine's programme and Bacon was also signed up for a programme on BBC6 Music.
He is a presenter that really divides the audience. |
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Helen May
Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19385 Location: Cheshire
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 10:53 am Post subject: |
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Sorry but I thought Richard Bacon was probably the worst standin there has ever been on the Jeremy Vine show, with the possible exception of Amanda Platell. So I'm not unhappy if it means he won't be on again.
H _________________ 88 - 91 FM this is Radio 2 from the BBC!
I said it live on air in the studio with Jeremy Vine on 10/3/2005 |
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ColinB Guest
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 10:59 am Post subject: |
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Helen May wrote: | Shame Channel 4 dropped out of the DAB thing, we may not have Shennan but then heaven knows who we might have got instead.
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That's the problem. For nearly three decades now British broadcasting - and particularly the BBC - has suffered at the hands of people who are "managers" and accountants first and broadcasting enthusiasts second. (I put the word "managers" in parentheses intentionally).
It does annoy me how these people are now running our radio and TV networks. Surely there are loads of people who are passionate about radio and TV and who can also provide really good, talented leadership based upon a solid practical experience of broadcasting?
On the basis of his dismal track record with Radio 2 far, Shennan certainly doesn't appear to have any passion for radio at all. So why is he managing (for want of a more appropriate verb) one of the world's biggest radio networks? |
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The Great Gildersleeve
Joined: 17 Sep 2010 Posts: 249 Location: North East England
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:02 am Post subject: |
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Helen, I'm not a fan either and it was Bob who brought Bacon to Radio 5, Radio 2 and BBC 6 Music or during Bob's watch and when he started to appear on these other networks run by Bob listeners were worried.
When Bacon was on Radio 5 after some months he left to go to Capital Radio, I don't what went wrong but the Capital job came to and end. Then Bacon was resigned to Radio 5 where he still is. |
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The Great Gildersleeve
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:06 am Post subject: |
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You make many good points Colin.
Just before Bacon went to Capital they tried him out on BBC7(not one of Bob's networks)as announcer on the Breakfast slot and I have never ever seen such adverse reaction from listeners to his style and attitude. It was a time where the BBC7 messageboard and Digital Spy overheated.
And it takes a lot to annoy BBC7 listeners. |
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Ian Robinson Site Admin
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 3609 Location: Chorley, Lancashire
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:17 am Post subject: |
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Sadly, Mayo's move to Drivetime on Radio 2 means Bacon has taken his 5Live slot, which I adored, and totally run it into the ground. Bacon is a fatuous, ignorant, self-absorbed, irritating presenter with very little understanding of the world beyond the shiny things he sees on screens and displays a remarkable ability to wind up his guests, or miss their point entirely. |
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mark occomore
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Minx
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Ian Robinson Site Admin
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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Minx wrote: | Don't know who the guy is sitting on the number four though...... |
Whoever it is, he looks like he's having a poo. |
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mark occomore
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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The Honeymoon period is over with Robbie Williams and the guys. It would all eventually end in tears, and he be off to do his own music. Take That fans will have to bite there tongues and get on with it. Robbie only came back, because of pressure and found the time out to do this. |
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MadeinSurrey
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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Mark, why must it "end in tears"??? You have no idea what goes on behind the scenes - the reunion may only have been for a finite period anyway. _________________ MiS |
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quickssandra
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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From the start it was said that they would be a five piece for a finite period. They just haven't said how long that period will be. |
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John W
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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MadeinSurrey wrote: | Mark, why must it "end in tears"??? You have no idea what goes on behind the scenes - the reunion may only have been for a finite period anyway. |
Maybe tears for his fans
Anyway Robbie has LAUGHED, all the way to the bank _________________ -
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nod
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Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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To me it looks likw RW has taken over Take that, and has GB as a side kick |
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kengeo
Joined: 21 Sep 2010 Posts: 278 Location: Gloucestershire
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 9:22 am Post subject: |
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This thread seems to have died, is it the fact that we are all now happily listening to the great CE or has everyone completely given up and gone elsewhere? |
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ruddlescat
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:01 am Post subject: |
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Perhaps it might have something to do with the fact that Simon Bates is now presenting a far superior offering and I say that even though I am not a huge Bates fan
Having the Golden Hour back is excellent _________________ Are you ready for a Ruddles? |
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kengeo
Joined: 21 Sep 2010 Posts: 278 Location: Gloucestershire
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:06 am Post subject: |
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Have to agree, have been at home this week so far so I can listen on DAB, its a pain that its not available everywhere on FM. Shame about the ads!
I reckon Evans employment on R2 its a government ploy to get us all listening to DAB!
How about that for a conspiracy theory?! |
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Blondehedgehog
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:08 am Post subject: |
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kengeo wrote: | This thread seems to have died, is it the fact that we are all now happily listening to the great CE or has everyone completely given up and gone elsewhere? |
I don't bother joining CE threads so much as I am fed up with him. I don't listen to him and avoid him at all cost. My bleeting about it is not going to change things. The BBC are a law unto themselves and will do what they want....... _________________ I like hedgehog crisps |
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Rachel Guest
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:40 am Post subject: |
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kengeo wrote: | This thread seems to have died, is it the fact that we are all now happily listening to the great CE or has everyone completely given up and gone elsewhere? |
The original intent of this thread was to have a bit of a moan about the number of times Chris mentions The One Show (TOS) on the Breakfast Show. Being a big Breakfast Show fan but also being a non TOS viewer I found it distracting and annoying that so much of the breakfast show was being taken up with things Chris was doing on Telly- things I would never and will never watch. It’s a bit like a Ballet Dancer/part time Lifeboat Crewman, turning on stage in his oilskins, wellies and lifejacket to be Prince Siegfried in Swan Lake. It’s not what the audience want. Chris still mentions TOS now and again but I'm happy to report that it's now less often. Prince Siegfried..... "Oh go on... please"... "OK just the wellies then" |
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Helen May
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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I still don't listen and never will. It's only the BBC who think we Evans haters will come round to him, most won't. I'd rather have silence than him on my radio!
H _________________ 88 - 91 FM this is Radio 2 from the BBC!
I said it live on air in the studio with Jeremy Vine on 10/3/2005 |
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Blondehedgehog
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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Helen May wrote: | I still don't listen and never will. It's only the BBC who think we Evans haters will come round to him, most won't. I'd rather have silence than him on my radio!
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Rachel Guest
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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Helen May wrote: | I still don't listen and never will. It's only the BBC who think we Evans haters will come round to him, most won't. I'd rather have silence than him on my radio!
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Hate is such a strong emotion, Helen. Do you really hate him or is it just a strong dislike? |
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Helen May
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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It is Rachel, but I feel very strongly about it. I do hate his show and his voice, and 'Evan's dislikers' didn't sound right as I was typing the message!
I don't hate many things but I'm afraid Evans is one of them.
H _________________ 88 - 91 FM this is Radio 2 from the BBC!
I said it live on air in the studio with Jeremy Vine on 10/3/2005 |
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