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Angela W



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:18 pm    Post subject: Eurovision Song Contest Reply with quote

As no one likes us, perhaps the BBC should save licence payers money and drop this. The money could be put towards funding 6Music.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An added problem is that the BBC is one of the core funders who has to stump up the lion's share of the budget - massively disproportionate to what we get out of it. Personally I think we should do what Italy did a few years back and simply back out gracefully.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't realise that Colin. The money from that and from chopping some of the so-called Radio 2 celeb presenters could be better spent on funding a Radio2 Xtra or keeping 6Music.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sorry we came last, as I quite liked both singer and song.

At the very least, I think we should withdraw for one year in the first instance and have a re-think about whether we wish to continue to enter in the future and, if so, what changes we need to make.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stop letting the public decide the songs and singers we send. The public are idiots!

As for dropping out for a year, I'm not sure that would save much money as the BBC would still have to find something else to fill those 12+ hours of television and it wouldn't be much cheaper.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally I'd like to see those resources directed at the huge wealth of new talent that exists here in the UK but which doesn't get much national exposure. I get round to see lots of young performers and I think there's as much good and original musical talent out there now as there ever has been. I saw literally hundreds of bands in the 70s and 80s and there's plenty around today which would be their equals.

The Eurovision Song Contest seems such a waste of resources and airtime in the way that it encourages such inane and unadulterated pap.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:11 pm    Post subject: The Eurovision Song Contest Reply with quote

It also meant The Critical List was off that Saturday because of the radio broadcast!

The 'Father Ted' episode with 'My Lovely Horse' in has convinced me that the UK submit a rubbish song every year to get out of hosting it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ian Robinson wrote:
The public are idiots!


Shocked I'm not an idiot.... now my neighbour, he's an idiot.. I'll give you that.. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 4:03 pm    Post subject: Re: The Eurovision Song Contest Reply with quote

aviddiva wrote:
It also meant The Critical List was off that Saturday because of the radio broadcast!

The 'Father Ted' episode with 'My Lovely Horse' in has convinced me that the UK submit a rubbish song every year to get out of hosting it.


We're already the pariahs of Europe, we don't want to insult them any more (leave that job to the Irish - didn't they field a turkey one year?).

Actually, according to the review in the Telegraph earlier this week, our entry to the ESC costs the Beeb 300,000, plus the production costs of presenters and sending it back to Blighty. Considering that the budget for Strictly... is 500,000 per show, and X-Factor allegedly double that, it's not bad value, and to withdraw wouldn't be of much benefit.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"and to withdraw wouldn't be of much benefit."

Oh yes it would... to our ears and various other senses!!

It had a purpose in the 60's, but is now an anachronism. Put ot out of it's misery!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 4:26 pm    Post subject: Re: The Eurovision Song Contest Reply with quote

RockitRon wrote:
Actually, according to the review in the Telegraph earlier this week, our entry to the ESC costs the Beeb 300,000


But that doesn't take into account the small fortune that the BBC pays to support the European Broadcasting Union network infrastructure which the ESC was originally designed to exploit.

I'm not complaining about the latter, by the way; the EBU has been an essential standards-originator and regulator, presiding over all European member-broadcasters since its inception. Without the UBU we would never have had the pan-European PAL 625 colour TV system - which is technically superior to NTSC as used in North America and Japan.

I still think we should ditch our involvement in the song contest, though. After all, it's largely a platform for those countries whose music businesses aren't good enough to get exposure in an international market. The UK doesn't have that problem..............
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