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Helen May



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi AgProv

I can recall in the olden days of the message boards several things happening on various shows which could only have come about because of 'someone relevant' reading the boards. So to say no one read them was rubbish. I also agree that those of us who were censored had hit a nerve and most likely spoke the truth, which of course hurts.

I must admit I was probably lucky that my premod ended at the beginning of the week in which the boards closed otherwise I'd probably still be in it now.

As for the the one who annnoyed us on certain days of the week in particular. I can recall having and email (I don't think I still have it) asking me not to keep reporting his posts............. I won't say anymore but read what you like into that.

Oh and AgProv I'll certainly accept your apology but you've a better memory than I (I'm always told mine is like an elephant's Wink ) as I can't recall our argument! Thank you all the same!

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Helen!

Glad I got that off my chest - I do remember an occassion where I replied to one of your postings without properly thinking it through first, and got the distinct impression I'd offended you (with reason - I was a bit clumsy)

This is the Russell Brand thread I started all those years ago - it's still cached!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbpointsofview/F1951568?thread=5029084&skip=0&show=20

Interestingly enough, I see Scott Clout appears to have been restricted - belatedly - as his name has gone from his postings and been replaced with a number.

The me-versus-Brand thread...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbradio2/F1951568?thread=4399021

Shortly after this, premod happened...
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And this is the occassion I let my mouth run away with me and tried to be clever with Peta.

She'd just sounded off about what good value the BBC licence fee is and all the things it bought (including, ironically enough, access to the messageboards).

I couldn't resist it. I hopped over to You-tube and found a very old comedy sketch, in which Gryff Rhys-Jones takes the pi$$ out of Barry Took and the old "Points of View" programme. The suspicion was that when the viewers were off-message, and resolutely refusing to accept the BBC party line, the BBC made up letters from imaginary viewers to broadcast on PoV and support its own position... totally unthinkeable, of course. They'd never do that, not even on an obscure messageboard

but this is Not The Nine O'Clock News' take on it (which gets me wondering if I pissed off Peta that Sunday evening...)

[img]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lzS8yW8INA&p=77A1F3BF6ACB0EFB&playnext=1&index=44[/img]
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You posted the link inside an Image tag so it won't work.

Here's the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lzS8yW8INA&p=77A1F3BF6ACB0EFB&playnext=1&index=44
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Colin! (Should have been URL and not Img - I will know now).
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AgProv wrote:
Thank you Colin! (Should have been URL and not Img - I will know now).


You don't need to enclose a URL with a tag in this version of the forum - just paste it in.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:35 am    Post subject: well, I was wrong... Reply with quote

6:30 this morning came and went and they haven't allowed me back on the BBC messageboards... I wonder if they want to give Evan's incursion into what was formerly Sarah Kennedy's show time to settle down before they let bloody-minded dissidents back onto the BBC MB's? What's going to be next - will he try to claw another half hour at the opposite end of his shoe, at Ken Bruce's expense?

I tried looking at R2's Facebook page at the wekend, but it was frankly bloody depressing - like a cheerleader's convention, or a Labour Party conference under Blair. People posting to say how great it is and to reinforce the current established order, with only one brave soul posting anything dissenting... I should PM her and suggest she comes here... to be honest i'm surprised her posting was allowed to stay up, unless they're palying a clever game and allowing token opposition just so they can say they're being democratic and letting all points of view be expressed, even though as you can see popular opinion is overwhelmingly in favour of the Great Ginger God...
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read the rules very carefully after being banned and there wasn't one saying you couldn't register with a different e-mail address. They said you couldn't impersonate someone else, but if they don't ask you for your identity on registration, you're only doing that if you try to adopt someone else's user name. I found the 10 minute disposable e-mail address very useful for setting myself up for a return snipe at the Radio 2 Message Board, though I began to have problems remembering my log in details.

That wouldn't work here, of course, but as it's an honestly run forum, why would it be necessary?

I find even the Points of View Message Board such an unpleasant place to visit now, I have no plans to return.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ally Gory wrote:
I find even the Points of View Message Board such an unpleasant place to visit now, I have no plans to return.


I'd almost forgotten about the POV board, and to be honest near the end I spent more time on there than the R2 boards, but since coming here it's all under one umbrella brella brella.

Like you Ally I have no plans to go back
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 7:33 pm    Post subject: Not that it will do any good, but... Reply with quote

Text of latest complaint to the BBC against my account restriction.
Posted here for group interest.


Posted on Sun 17th October to the BBC complaints people.

Dear BBC, I am following through my previous compalint against restriction of my account, which was sent to you on Oct 3rd 2010.

I find it extremely dissappointing that you hqve again broken your own promise that I would receive an interim decision within ten days of lodging the complaint - those ten days have now clearly elapsed and I have heard nothing whatsoever from you.

To reiterate: I am asking for my "AgProv" identity to be retored to BBC messageboards with full posting rights.

I have sent you a previous communication with a full explanation as to why this should be. I fail to see why the activities of the moderators to exclude me from the Radio Two messageboards should exclude me from other sites where I had a good relationship, such as H2G2 and Radio Seven.

The R2 messageboards are now defunct, anyway, so the original "crime" of criticising Chris Evans (I beleive, like others, that this was the biggest single reason for the Draconian conduct of the R2 moderators during late August and early September) cannot be repeated anywhere else on BBC boards without automatically being "off-topic".

I also beleive that the moderators, for whatever reason, systematically broke their own rules of conduct and exceeded their authority suring this period.

When I first went into Premod in early September, the vast majority of my postings during this time were read by a moderator - this is what "premod" MEANS - and were allowed to pass onto the boards as fit comment.

Therefore if they were allowed onto the boards having been passed by a moderator, thay had not broken house rules in any shape or form and were fit to be publicly viewed.

Why, then, were they all taken down a day or two later when they had already been passed as fit for publication?

Could it be that somebody was trying to retrospectively establish a paper trail and proof that I was an unfit person to be on the boards at all, as I then passed from premod into a completely unfair state of account restriction?

The action that put me into restriction was clearly not mine - it was down to whoever pulled so many postings in so short a time that my account was tipped over into restriction. Those postings had already been approved by a moderator as fit to stand.

Therefore my exclusion from the messageboards is unfair, unfit, does not even conform to your own rules, and I am asking for it to be reversed forthwith.

I also do not find it amusing or fair that this exclusion also appears to bar me from normal innocuous things like emailing a show or presenter, or ordering tickets to BBC live events. This is petty, malicious and unjust.

Thank you, and please can I have a reply this time?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best of luck with getting a reply AgProv, I just decided to re-register with a different name, as I was getting nowhere with the complaints department, if there even is one.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 5:08 pm    Post subject: To be frank, I'm bloody furious Reply with quote

I've just had a reply to my complaint about being modded. I'm bloody furious and 'm going to let it settle a bit before replying.

But what do you all think of this? They've got aspects of it dead wrong, parts of it are defamatory - against me - and it says a lot about their own bloody inconsistency! Comments please?

Dear BBC Visitor

Thank you for your email.

Your original account was premoderated following defamatory comments
about BBC presenters.

You then appear to have registered with a second account in order to
further disrupt the service, behaviour which included posts that were
abusive toward other users, at which point both accounts were
restricted.

Following this you appear to have registered with a further two
accounts, both of which were restricted.

Your unwillingness to adhere to House Rules presents an unacceptable
editorial risk and because of this we are not prepared to uphold your
appeal.

Please that that once banned, users are not permitted to return to the
site.

(i) About your posts:

* Contributions must be civil and tasteful.
* No disruptive, offensive or abusive behaviour: contributions must be
constructive and polite, not mean-spirited or contributed with the
intention of causing trouble.
* No unlawful or objectionable content: unlawful, harassing, defamatory,
abusive, threatening, harmful, obscene, profane, sexually oriented,
racially offensive or otherwise objectionable material is not
acceptable.

(ii) Your BBC Account:

If you use multiple logins for the purpose of disrupting a community or
annoying other users you may have action taken against all of your
accounts.

(vi) If you breach these Community Rules:

If you fail to abide by these Community Rules (and/or any variations in
relevant local house rules) when taking part in a bbc.co.uk community,
you will be sent an email which informs you why your contribution has
been refused or edited. This email will also include a warning that
continuing to break the rules may result in action being taken against
your account or accounts.

This action may include any content posted by you being checked before
allowed to go on the site or a temporary or permanent suspension of your
ability to participate in any or all of bbc.co.uk community areas.

If you submit or share offensive or inappropriate content to or with any
bbc.co.uk communities or anywhere else on bbc.co.uk or otherwise engage
in any disruptive behaviour on bbc.co.uk, and the BBC considers such
behaviour to be serious and/or repeated, the BBC may use whatever
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The BBC reserves the right to delete any contribution, or take action
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This isn't a personalised reply, it's pretty much standard - and almost identical to the one I received. When I subsequently replied, I got a "this is our final word" message telling me that I could moan as much as I liked but it would make no difference.

I'd give up. It's not worth the bother. The very last sentence is the clincher from their point of view.

I do think there should be some form of "class action" against the BBC MB management, though, because it's a blatant abuse of their position.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 6:58 pm    Post subject: Re: To be frank, I'm bloody furious Reply with quote

AgProv wrote:

Following this you appear to have registered with a further two
accounts, both of which were restricted.


If you use multiple logins for the purpose of disrupting a community or
annoying other users you may have action taken against all of your
accounts.


Just a point, it appears to be well within the rules to have multiple accounts so long as you "keep in the rules". So should you want to go back to the message boards you just have to save all the stuff the BBC wouldn't want (i.e. criticisms) and you're sorted. But the whole point of a message board is free speech, if a board restricts that there's really no point. I'd just set up another account and don't post anything with it and use that for any interaction with shows and the like.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WOW! Just read the old R2 MB threads relating to Russell Brand. How can anyone get so angry over a radio show through I admire the AgPro's dogged stance on sticking to his opnion

I adored Russell Brand's show but agree everyone is entitled to their own views but not at the cost of trying to get someone barred because they are not to their own particular taste.

Things seem less heated and this message board though, maybe partly because we are not heavily modded all the time. The old MB did seem to bring out the worst in us all.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's OK Agprov, you can stay here with your cohorts who are mostly anti Chris Evans, and you can leave the Facebook page to the people on there who like him.
Problem solved.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gazmando wrote:
It's OK Agprov, you can stay here with your cohorts who are mostly anti Chris Evans, and you can leave the Facebook page to the people on there who like him.
Problem solved.


Is that the Facebook page that's run by the BBC's Press and Public Relations Office?

Ah yes..... Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does it matter though Colin?
If the people go on there and enjoy chatting with each other without being sniped at I can't see what the problem is.
And no, I don't go on there so I'm only guessing.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gazmando wrote:
Does it matter though Colin?
If the people go on there and enjoy chatting with each other without being sniped at I can't see what the problem is.
And no, I don't go on there so I'm only guessing.


It's the one run by the BBC Press and Public Relations Office. 'Nuff said.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The BBC is not interested in your opinion unless it is complimentary to those it approves of and critical of those it wishes to "axe". Despite being a publicly-funded body, it feels no responsibility to answer to those who pay for its existence and will take any unreasonable step to silence its critics.

I can understand why they may be reluctant to encourage those who will criticise them no matter what they do, but they have stepped over the line of reasonable behaviour.

I don't know if AgProv did re-register under different names, but it is not a requirement to do anything other than confirm your e-mail address is valid when you register to use the comment functions, so it is only an account, not a person, which may be excluded.

I'm contemplating a tip-off to the Daily Mail. I don't have much time for them, but I know they have an axe to grind with the BBC, so there might be some fun to be had.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if one of the moderators doesn't understand IP addresses properly.

I run my own board, and as part of every day maintenance I can see the IP addresses of posters. With some ISPs the IP address shown to the board is that of a gateway or proxy server, and therefore many users can simultaneously appear to be using from the same address, despite being resident elsewhere. Mobile broadband will make this problem more prevalent.



Has anyone considered contacting Private Eye? They like digging into BBC incompetence without being as vindictive as the dire Daily Mail.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JQW wrote:
I run my own board, and as part of every day maintenance I can see the IP addresses of posters. With some ISPs the IP address shown to the board is that of a gateway or proxy server, and therefore many users can simultaneously appear to be using from the same address, despite being resident elsewhere. Mobile broadband will make this problem more prevalent.


I've run several forums using phpBB up until recently (only one now) and I always do ramndom IP checks only to discover that some posts come in via Proxies and often see that several users can be unwittingly using the same IP address. The biggest board I have looked after had 15,000+ members and it was common for this to happen.

However, more and more ISPs are assigning fixed, rather than dynamic, IPs to clients' access - largely because the pool is being contaminated by people mis-using the system.

You'll note from the BBC's rules that members aren't allowed to access the BBC's web services via Web Proxies and that if they detect such activity they'll bar future access without warning and without further debate.

I realise they must have an unenviable fight against spambots and human spammers alike, but they're immensely heavy-handed at times.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're with BT for broadband, all you have to do to change your IP is unplug the hub for 5 minutes. Start it up again and you're sorted with a new IP.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 10:48 am    Post subject: Radio 2 MB Reply with quote

I can understand AgProv wanting to punch Brand, Evans and David Cameron. In hindsight Call Me Dave has bored us as much with his baby as Zoe Ball has!

Stuart Maconie was totally robbed of The Critical List, which belonged better on Saturday nights than Brand's show.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Radio 2 MB Reply with quote

aviddiva wrote:
In hindsight Call Me Dave has bored us as much with his baby as Zoe Ball has!


I have it on good authority that Number 10 will soon be releasing the "We're All In This Together" Rap by Call Me Dave.

Can't wait.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm back...sufferring from BT doing a "systems upgrade" which promises faster broadband, but which as we all know causes one's system to revert to speeds that would have been diabolically slow in the days of dial-up (at least till it's all sorted out and they stop meddling with it).

I'm currently posting this from the local library.

Alternative names: I hold my hands up and confess.

In a previous period of premod, I generated the name "Deuxieme Bureau" when their detection ability was evidently less capable than it is now - I kept this till the need was over then allowed it to "die" naturally. At another point,where my then employers were engaging in shabby practice to cut costs, that would have led to a reeduced service capacity and a detimental affect on service users already the most vulnerable in society (the elderly in care homes), I did a bit of "whistle-blowing" on a BBC Radio 4 messageboard about elderly care. My problerm was, as I was already planning to leave them becuase it had ceased to be a vocation and my health was suffering, how did I blow the whistle on the people employing me in such a way that they couldn't trace it back to me - I had a pension and redundancy money to safeguard. So I created a one-off second BBC ID to log on with this information, in the hope a journalist would pick it up and run with the ball (in fact, one did). I would contend, then, that this second ID was created in the best of moral intentions and in fact was of benefit to the BBC as it actually provided them with material later used in a R4 documentary.

The third alternate ID was, as I have said before, an ill-advised attempt to get back onto the boards in some capacity during the last wek of the R2 MB's - born out of desperation that nobody at the BBC seemed to be interested or bothered about resolving the situation and leaving me gagged. I have confessed to this, explained my motives, and even grovelled a bit on this one and asked for mercy (ha!)

Oh, and the irony is, my Dearly Beloved re-registered for the R2 MB's during this last week. (She had a BBC ID - MorganaLaFay - some years ago, but ceased posting in disgust at the antics of a certain Scott Nelson who was clogging the boards up at the time - she went to more interesting places on the Net and never came back, till last month. Guess what? Our house only has one computer and one ISP. She posted for a day or two and was sumarrily thrown off the boards. Thinking this was a computer error, she re-registered and was chucked out again... but will the suspicious bastards ever beleive that! )

Thank you for the info, Ally! I'm minded not to do it, though, because if they are reading this thread...

by the way, I was in WH Smiths this morning. They are selling Chris Evans' autobiog for a whopping 6. Determined not to actually buy a copy, I scanned the last few chapters to see if he has a take on recent events.

Oh boy, he does not like the sort of people who use the Radio Two message boards... some of the comment really got under his skin, apparently.

Does this make the events of recent weeks slightly more comprehensible? I have asked the local library to get me a copy, so all the G3 will see is a couple of pennies in PBSR money - - I begrudge even that. with luck i can come back with more exact quotes.

CE resented the neative comment on the MB's, considers Brandgate a travesty, really screamed blue murder that the antics of a load of scruffbags like us forced Lesley Douglas out of a job.... when I have time and leisure and have steeled myself to read the wretched thing, I will come back with quotes!

Thank you all for supportive comments
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AgProv wrote:
CE resented the neative comment on the MB's, considers Brandgate a travesty, really screamed blue murder that the antics of a load of scruffbags like us forced Lesley Douglas out of a job.... when I have time and leisure and have steeled myself to read the wretched thing, I will come back with quotes!

Thank you all for supportive comments


Excellent news! I'm glad to have played my part in getting his back up. Nothing pleases me more... Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AgProv wrote:
CE resented the neative comment on the MB's, considers Brandgate a travesty, really screamed blue murder that the antics of a load of scruffbags like us forced Lesley Douglas out of a job.... when I have time and leisure and have steeled myself to read the wretched thing, I will come back with quotes!

Thank you all for supportive comments


I know I'm getting on a bit and all that but how did MBers force Douglas out of a job? I thought she went after the stink of Brand and Ross. Seems like CE needs a reality check.

Still, anything that pricks over inflated egos is fine with me
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 10:07 am    Post subject: The Evans book Reply with quote

Slight correction... PSBR is "public sector borrowing requirement", or a measure of government overdraft.

I meant to say "PLRS" for public lending rights thingie", where an author receives a few pennies every time their book is taken out of a library... about all I'm prepared to give G3 for reading his wretched book!

Incidentally, a note here tells me that my broadband number just before BT "upgraded" the service took the form

97.199.70.339 (this is not the exact number, for obvious reasons, but it preserves the flavour).

Today it is

97.199.337.299.

The latter two blocks of numbers have changed, but the "97.199" bit remains constant. Is this enough to perform the little deception recommended by others here, should I be minded to do so, or do I have to try again until the "97.199" bit changes?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi AgProv,

The 199 could change but not by much. I've twice had to reboot my router this week and have done speedests (and have the details) with Thinkbroadband for years now. I've just looked at the ones for this week and that number has changed by one or two digits. The 97 (91 in my case) remains constant.

It might be worth a try what does anyone else think? It seem extremely harsh when we know that others have done it over the years. I'll not mention names.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 10:27 am    Post subject: Re: The Evans book Reply with quote

AgProv wrote:
Incidentally, a note here tells me that my broadband number just before BT "upgraded" the service took the form

97.199.70.339 (this is not the exact number, for obvious reasons, but it preserves the flavour).

Today it is

97.199.337.299.

The latter two blocks of numbers have changed, but the "97.199" bit remains constant. Is this enough to perform the little deception recommended by others here, should I be minded to do so, or do I have to try again until the "97.199" bit changes?


The first two sets of numbers in the IP address relate to the "block" that's allocated to the ISP (the first two associate the block with a country and the second are specific to the ISP itself), and the numbers after that are allocated dynamically by the ISP to your connection.

Obviously that means that your IP at that moment is nestled in among hundreds of thousands of others with a very similar number sequence so the BBC's servers wouldn't necessarily have the clout to associate one number with another.

Still, that might all change now that the government's defence budget has allocated more money to "cyber crime"; now they'll have an even greater ability to monitor everything we do at all levels!

I predict that GCHQ will soon be blocking the connections of everyone who dares to criticise the current government or Radio 2's Breakfast Bore.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AgProv, I've just read through the reply you received from the Central Communities Team re your complaint about being modded, especially this bit :

* Contributions must be civil and tasteful.
* No disruptive, offensive or abusive behaviour: contributions must be
constructive and polite, not mean-spirited or contributed with the
intention of causing trouble.
* No unlawful or objectionable content: unlawful, harassing, defamatory,
abusive, threatening, harmful, obscene, profane, sexually oriented,
racially offensive or otherwise objectionable material is not
acceptable.

How bizarre! We all know that these rules were broken consistently by the unmentionable one and yet he got away with it time after time.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Especially since a regular here - I can't recall who, for the moment - posted to say that she'd tried to hit the "complain about this post" button frequently whilst the Bane of the Boards was going through his antics. And just after SK was forced out, let's face it, he wasn't just a joke, he was nauseous - vindictive, spiteful, nasty, victorious, totally un-necessary in his comments about SK. So did they listen to our friend and moderate his postings? No, they sent her an email warning her that action would be taken against her account if she did not cease and desist from vexatiously slandering a fellow MB user.

Perhaps she could oblige by posting that mail in full here, as I understand several other people received a similar warning?

I've never hit the "complain" button on another poster (not even SN/SC)- I don't know why, maybe it's beause I never liked it being done to me, and it would be inconsistent to do it to others. Besides, the Mods should be awake enough to spot really outrageous violations for themselves.

So I posted, in a general friendly and non-abusive way, directly pointing to Scott how his behaviour looked and asking him to try to be magnanimous in victory now he'd got what he wanted. Guess what - up for ten minutes and modded, but Scott was allowed to rant on, right to the end.

Something was very wrong here...
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I am on AOL all e mails sent by the moderators to me on the BBC messageboards went straight into my spam box this apparently being a peculiarity of AOL's system
It was a very handy device as it saved me the trouble of having to read all the crap the moderation team probably handed out to many other responsible and decent posters
For once in my life the technology worked in my favour but it didn't stop them putting me on pre mod 4 minutes before the boards closed on 17th September
What was that all about?
I suppose I could pursue a complaint but quite frankly I'm just glad to be out of there
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you go to any other of the BBC's boards Ruddles?

I ask because you could have been put back on 'normal' postings. Mine lasted 2 weeks and seemed to automatically return to normal, but you'd have to try to post something to check. If you post on a board you've never been on before you will also be in pre-mod for about 20 postings I think.

You could try it just to see I suppose.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still can't post on the Radio 3 boards, The BBC communities don't reply to my mails.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought you were banned though John? I think Ruddles was only in pre-mod.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes Helen I did think about trying another BBC board and I might still give it a try if I get bored and have nothing better to do but it goes against the grain after my own experience which quite frankly pales into insignificance compared with the problems of others on this forum
It is only since joining here that I have properly begun to realise how extensive the problems were under the Peta regime and it might be interesting to see whether the problems exist on other boards
I rather suspect they do as to me it appears a single moderation team is now covering all the remaining boards possibly with the exception of Radio 3
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Helen May wrote:
I thought you were banned though John? I think Ruddles was only in pre-mod.

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Well, if I can still login then that isn't banned, is it?

I'm 'restricted from posting'. Confused
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This isn't Nelson, by any chance?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-11650593
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